LEO ever harass with conceal/carry permit?

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in my state apparently they run the plates prior to even walking up to the car; and the plates (assuming its your car) tells them about the ccl. ive heard friends with licenses say that the officer will not even get out of the vehicle until a second unit arrives (norfolk, va).

i usually get pulled over 2-3 times/year in my personal and as mentioned above i hand the permit with my DL so i dont have to say "I have a gun" and the officer has always looked at it; me; then just hands it back and goes about his business.

BTW i get pulled over 1-2 times a month at work and over the past 10 years all warnings and only 1 ticket (my truck is brown :) ; so my heart doesnt even skip a beat anymore.
 
I've had contact w/LEO's many times. When asked for identification I provide my DL and my CCW permit and inform the officer that I am armed. The only time this resulted in anything other than business as usual was completely understandable.

I was going to a local 24 hour pharmacy to remedy an illness at 3:00 am Unfortunately at about 2:30 am a nearby convience store was robbed. The car involved in the robbery was same model and color as mine. As I pulled up to the road block I noticed the police moving around (taking defensive positions). I presented my DL, CCW, Insurance, etc. and saw movement over my right shoulder out the back window. The officer at my window asked for the gun/holster together w/o me gripping the gun. I handed the gun to him in the holster and advised him it was loaded with a round in the chamber. After determining I was not their suspect the gun was returned to me unloaded with the request I not reload until after I left the road block area.

Every other time I've had contact with law enforcement they ask I not draw my weapon and then continue with their business writing me a ticket, or whatever.
 
things like your last post are why disclosure is good. you never know whats going on and in that situation not disclosing could get you slammed jammed and a gun in your face. as much as folks like to imagine othewise real life sometimes fails to follow the scripts they practice in their minds. eventually they figure out your not the one they want but it hurts when they throw you face down and sit on your head
 
It has happend to me twice I just hand him my dl and cwp at the same time . once he handed it right back said nothing and ran my info came back said slow down and that was it .Secound time he looked at it and said are you carrying I said yes he asked were my weapon was I told him he didnt run me and said have a good night . I feel as though once they find out as a whole that you are an upright guy they want to move on to something more intresting. and as a whole permit holders are up right and pretty boring to the avg officer.

just my thought
 
I have never had a negative experience with LEOs while carrying. Understand, pretty much every time you get pulled over, the cop is really looking for more than a traffic ticket. When he sees the permit, he knows that you have had at least a little bit of law explained to you, and you can pass a federal background check. No fun there.

Like Duke says, when I am (rarely) pulled over, it usually turns into a conversation about guns. I haven't had a ticket in years.
 
I do not have my CCL yet, but I carry in my trucks center console. Which is perfectly legal in Texas. It's considered an extension of your home. Ain't Texas great!
 
Luckily I have only had one encounter where my CCW came up. Since, in AZ, it is linked to your DL an officer asked me if I was carrying.
His words: "Are you gonna shoot me?"
My reaction: "No"
He gave me a repair ticket and that was it.
 
I think the permit sets the officers more at ease. I drive too fast, get pulled over every once in a while. I had a couple of times when the cops got very jumpy...even made me feel a little nervous. They were both obviously green city police officers. One was obviously in training, sergeant riding shotgun and another sergeant in a second car. Had a pleasant conversation with the sergeant while the nube was running my license. Highway patrol are nothing but professional and have never wanted to see the firearm. I've gotten quite a few warnings and only two tickets in the 11 or so years I've had a CHL.
 
just watch out for rookies, make sure you are well trained in safe handling and keep your hands in sight. My friend was almost killed because he grabbed the gun and scared the leo, it was his own fault he was used to handing it to people but when leo asks its a little bit different situation. Follow the laws in your state and you should not have a problem. Most the le i talk to respect the ccw holders and as long as they follow the simple steps when getting puled over they rarely have a problem.
 
Don't get pulled over then you won't have a problem.

However, here in Colorado I don't have to let them know and won't as it's none of their business.

C
 
Speeding tickets turn into warnings. That seems to be my experience.

Some people bring an attitude to a stop, some are another pleasant day meeting nice folks. Which side you want to be on makes the situation what it is. I tend to think the worst stories come from those who were looking for a problem. They seem to post about it more often.

The real issue is, why'd you get stopped? Don't do it again. You have a CCW, be the grey man.
 
he real issue is, why'd you get stopped? Don't do it again

i drive 1000+ miles per week 10mph over saves me about 3-4 hours a week; and i get 1 ticket / 10 years? btw also 0 accidents in that timeframe...
 
I used to get so annoyed at my mother's concern over my "record." God bless here, and I love her, but she lived in the suburbs where parking was plentiful and free. And she had no particular reason to hurry. No job on the line if she was a little late. So my parking tickets and speeding tickets were, to her, a character issue and a sign of some failure in parenting. People, they happen. It's annoying that in the computer age they stay on your record forever, but they just don't matter and they aren't something that can always be avoided. Chicago and DC have parking meters where it's $.25 for every five minutes. The meter maids, who are armed, by the way, and have shot "troublesome" people dead, stand and wait for the flag to fly, and write the ticket while you stand in line at the dry cleaner. Similarly with "speeding tickets." Fortunately it's now been twelve years since I've had one. I get pulled over all the time for various reasons, but no tix. I credit the Card.
 
The one time I got pulled over, both cops were extremely cool about it. They asked to see the gun and my permit along with my driver's license, and took them back to their car. When they were done they came back, put the now unloaded pistol, magazine and extra round on my windshield and asked that I allow them to leave the parking lot before retreiving my firearm. No big deal at all.

Outside of that single traffic stop, I have had nothing but good experiences with LEOs. On a couple of occassions I have had an officer in a gun shop offer friendly input and suggestions on guns and holsters that I had been considering. I know they are out there, but I have yet to come across a LEO who is unsupportive of public concealed carry.
 
The meter maids, who are armed, by the way, and have shot "troublesome" people dead


when did a ticket writer shoot someone in dc?
 
Unless the car has a locking compartment keeping the gun in it isn't the best idea. If you do have a locking glove box, as you get stopped lock it, and have the paper work elsewhere.

:rolleyes:

Number one way for a traffic stop to turn into a felony stop!!
 
cassandrasdaddy: "when did a ticket writer shoot someone in dc?"

The specific instance I'm thinking of, her name was Michelle B. and it happened a dozen years ago. Homeless guy, didn't even have a car. Came onto her. Archie's four letter word for "goodbye."
 
It's always been the other way around for me. I've had several contacts with LE over the years of having a CCW, times when I was guilty of speeding as well as other things.

Not once has an LEO ever been anything but perfectly friendly to me over the fact that I was armed, and I've not once been asked to disarm myself or anything.

Maybe just luck. Personally I think it's because most of them realize that a law abiding citizen is no threat to them. There's a shock.
 
I have only had two contacts with a Law Enforcement Officer while I was carrying. Both were traffic stops. At both, I kept my hands on the steering wheel until the Officer was at my window. Then after he introduced himself, I told him I was a legally armed citizen, that I was carrying a loaded firearm and wanted to let him know that before I moved my hands. I told him I had a permit and that when he felt comfortable, I would get my driver's license and carry permit for him.

In both cases the Officer thanked me for letting him know that, told me to go ahead and get them, and in both cases, I was let go without a ticket being issued.

I don't know if my violations were so minor they didn't need ticketing, (both were quite minor, in one the Officer "thought" I ran a red light as I was waiting to make a left turn and could only complete my turn when the light changed and traffic stopped, but I was already in the middle of the intersection and needed to clear it, the other my tag was expired and I hadn't put the new sticker on it yet, even though I had the sticker at home on the table), or whether the Officer just felt that I was professional and polite and an "up standing citizen", so they let me go.

In any case, I have never been harassed by an LEO while carrying, but then again, my contact is limited to two contacts in many years of carrying.
 
I live in a pretty liberal state/city

"Liberal" as in "The people here tend towards liberalism" or "Liberal" as in "The firearm laws here tend towards liberty?

The political stance of the people there are not particularly relevant. It's the LAW that matters. You might find that officers in Berkely, CA might frown a little more than those in Fairbanks, AK, but it is all moot before the law.

Does your state have duty to inform? Full pre-emption?

Hassle is irrellevant if you obey the law. As with all things, how a particular officer handles a situation depends entirely on the INDIVIDUAL OFFICER.

You might find a hard@$$ in a firearm friendly state.

You might find Officer Friendly in a more draconian area.

Yet, if you obey the law, there's nothing they can do no matter what their opinion is, hassle or not.

I generally find officers to be looking out for the public, and their own safety. I've always informed out of courtesy (even though I'm not required to) and have yet to see an officer become uncomfortable. If they do, fine. As long as I obey the law, they can just remain uncomfortable until they leave me alone.
 
When LEOs ask for your handgun to take control of it, do you ask for a recepit? I have heard that in New Orleans officers would take the handgun and not return it but instead tell the motorist to 'pick it up at the station'

I am assuming it is legal for the officer to take control of the handgun but I really don't know for sure. What law allows them to do that? Has anyone ever said 'no thanks I'll keep my handgun on me' or 'Officer, may I suggest I just lock it in my glovebox until we are done here instead?'
 
Been what I consider harassed with a hunting license.

Had a Colorado Game Warden make me hike two miles down a mountain to make sure I didn't have a wild Turkey stashed in the trunk of my car while I was deer hunting!!!

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As a truck driver I have dealt with LEO/DOT's on MANY occasions...but I was never harassed in any way.

I did sorta spook a LEO one time in KY...it was a DUI check on 25E, just before the tunnel outside of Middlesboro, KY...I had an AR15 upper (only the upper...not legally considered the gun) laying on the passenger side seat...he saw it when he stepped up on the side of the truck to look at my license. He jumped back with his hand on his pistol (but he never drew it) when he saw it...I couldn't help but laugh as I said its only the upper half. At which point he calmed down...grinned, shook his head and said "Have a nice day" as he waved me on through the checkpoint.

I never bothered with showing them my handgun permit at DUI checkpoints...I meant no disrespect by that, I just figured it would complicate matters, they were looking for drunks...not guns.

If it was a DOT inspection or a traffic stop...I handed the permit to them with my CDL, logbook, and other work related paperwork.
 
While Kansas has no obligation to notify, I will. I don't like surprises (like bodyslammed to the ground and/or a gun in my ear becasue he was the butt of my holstered Sig) and I know those guys don't like surprises, either. If I'm legal to carry, it doesn't matter.

I've only dealt with LEO's and CCW once so far and didn't really have to ID as I was on my own property. I had a clown attempt to break into my house and when he saw me, my flashlight and my P6 he decided that he wanted to be an Olympic sprinter.

Gave a very short chase down to the alley, then stopped to call 911 on my cell. As they kept me on the phone, I told the dispatcher to advise the officers I was armed and had a CHL.

local PD, 2 sheriff's deputies and a adjacent city cop all responded, city cop there in about 90 seconds. BG left a knife behind. All 4 cops personally thanked me for letting the DS know I was armed, one did remind me that I didn't have to tell them i had a permit.
 
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