LEO's .. your take on us CCW's.

[winwun]

I am indeed heartened by the overwhelming positive response to the original question.

That being said, however, I am troubled by some that things that were mentioned in passing.

One, is the number of areas that issue by county at the whim of the chief LEO, generally the High Sheriff.

Tennessee was that way for a while, and then the permit went state-wide, and further, it is issued by the same people who issue drivers licenses, and the permit carries the same number as the DL, so in a traffic stop, the LEO gets the full info on his initial check with the dispatcher, or at least he should.

Mrat, you made a great point, and I will go further to say that if a police officer is close enough to protect you, you dont need a CCW. If an officer ISN'T near, then you are on your own, or hopefully there is someone near that has a CCW that will come to your aid. It can't be emphasized enough that the police come out AFTER the fact.

I see a trend also, in the right direction, of breaking down the limits of where you can't carry.

Now, it is permissible to leave the weapon in the vehicle in the parking lots of places that were previously banned.

Does it tell you something that we are trusted enough to carry in the general population, but NOT in the VERY areas where the weapon is most likely to be needed ? ?

Lonnie, hang in there, buddy. If you were near, I would gladly lend you something to carry until you could get your own. I'd be willing to bet that someone closer will read your post and do just that.

 

[jato]

I am pro 2nd. Anything goes, no taxes or permits.

The 2nd should only be taken away by the courts after conviction/due process (habitual offenders, suspects in violent crimes, while on parole/probation etc.)

 

[280PLUS]

its nice to see all you folks understand we ARE on your side

makes me feel a lot better too,,,



oh, and it's always (and i mean that) in my pocket

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[P95Carry]

Just checking back in ... as I continue to be more than grateful for the responses ........ it gives me great pleasure to read the many positive comments.

I would go so far as to say that ..... were the situation to ever occur, I would willingly assist in a situation where a cop was cornered or outgunned etc (as long as I didn't get taken for BG!! - that's another thread methinks ... hmmm)..... one of the facets to the system whereby there is a mutual interest I feel. We are all actually seeking greater safety.

Sadly, and still thus far ..... is the disparity between states, making it something of a nightmare when travelling far and wide. I may have a long trip coming up and am having to give deep thought as to how I can have some guns with me (hoping for some shoots when visiting) ..... and yet still stay squeeky legal.

The other sad thing mentioned is how .. all too often .... the carry ''no-no's'' can be in just the places where risk to self may just be highest!

 

[Johnny Guest]

I'm ALL for private concealed carry - - -

Some 35 years a peace officer, and I was a firearms enthusiast long before that.

I can easily speak for most of my agency as being for it as well. My sheriff gives me time off to renew my CHL instructor certificate and I've taught members of his family in the license class. I teach classes for staff family members, and the boss has detailed me to sign off on on ATF forms for him.

Texas is a Shall-Issue state, and no reason need be given for wanting a license. Our law requires CHL holders to show the license when an officer asks for ID, for any reason. SOP for our deputies is that they do not disarm licensees when encountered, unless there is some compelling reason. The working assumption is that the CHL holder has already undergone a full background check, is a government certified good guy, and there is no reason to inconvenience him/her. If a traffic citation is needed, well, okay, but this doesn't indicate criminal behavior. But, it turns out, unless the violation is something fairly serious, a courtesy warning is often deemed sufficient.

I really LIKE the fact that our deputies have several hundred potential backups in the county. (Even if many of 'em seldom actually actually carry a pistol . . . . )

Best,
Johnny

 

[rebbryan]

i'm not a LEO but plan on being one in a few years

my take on it is i think it'd be safer if everyone who was responsible enough and didn't have a record carried then everytime you roll up to a call the officer would be expecting a gun and would always be more cautious. not saying that a CCW'er would shoot, but the cop does not know you and personally i don't trust anyone i don't know, but i do tend to trust the people at the range faster than an ordinary person. plus if the cops knew there was a good chance there'd be a gun, they might be more "afraid" and get some training and actually be able to hit the skinny side of the barn

 

[furetto7]

I've been a cop for over thirty years, I've worked in a "May-Issue" state, a "Shall-Issue" state and unfortunantly now in one of the rapidly dwindling number "No-Issue" states, In all that time I have never had any problems with CCW holders, I have found all of the ones I have had both personal and proffessional contact with to be good, law abiding people who are exercising their right to not be a victim. I also must echo the sentiment that if you have a CCW permit, then carry the darn thing, If you don't have one and live in one of the more enlightened states that doesn't overly infringe on the exercise of your rights then get one. Every person who carries CCW protects not only themselves and their loved ones but the general public as well.