Less lethal rubber bullet guns - yes or no?

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A question...

These tear gas revolver looking thingys...what exactly do they do?

My guess is that they spoof out maybe a 10 foot spume of CS gas. Is that right? Or is it some sort of gas containing projectile that breaks on impact?

Do they do anything a good can of fox OC spray can't?
 
"Do they do anything a good can of fox OC spray can't?"

Imagine them as a flash-bang grenade exploding an entire can of CS or pepperspray to your face.

And it does it 2-20 times as you pull the trigger (depends on gun). We have even full-auto gun for tear gas and blank cartridges.:))

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I was not trying to be a wiseacre on changing your government. It is probably the only way you will get what you really want.

We are working on fixing DC and NYC. In the end it may actually come to insurrection. I certainly hope not.
For the record, the open hostilities phase of our revolution, specifically began in response to an act of firearms confiscation.

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So at least the repeatable shots give you something to do while the attacker walks right through (or around) that cloud of CS, singing, say, The Marine's Hymn, as he proceeds to go hand-to-hand with you anyway.

Are walking sticks illegal? Cause from my CS exposure/experience you'd be better off with a stick. At least I'd feel better about my personal safety with a stick. :scrutiny:

My point about being "accidentally" shot by a cop wasn't just about cops.

In any American city, as the law is written, some guy comes up to you, apparently unarmed, and says "I'm gonna kick your ass" in a threatening manner and you pull a non-lethal weapon that looks like a gun to deter him.

Under the law, since he, the "bad guy", has no way of knowing it isn't a real gun, YOU have just re-escalated the confrontation to one of "deadly force". He would in theory be justified in drawing a real gun and shooting you to defend himself from your escalated attack.

It would fall to the jury to decide if he bears enough culpability for first beginning the exchange, to lose his justifiable right of self-defense. A lot would hinge on the fact that YOU pulled a gun (real or not, it is the pullee's perception that matters) in a situation where lethal force was not necessarily justified.

In the mean time you've taken a fake gun up against a real gun, thus are probably still recovering from a shooting, if not dead.

The gun-shaped air tasers bother me for the same reason. The manufacturer's are now trying to market them to the public at the same time they make them more and more gun-like.

The mindset of someone who knows their weapon is non-lethal will, IMHO, lead them to pulling them in less-than-lethal justified situations (where a CCW would know deadly force is premature), which will put them at danger from people with real lethal means at hand.

If you wanna play gunfighter with a "non-gun" you are gonna lose when the real thing comes along.

Pepper spray in a small canister has the same potential disabling effect without the downsides of "gun-ishness". Heck, it's more convenient to carry to boot.
 
If Parker goes our way, DC may well be forced to allow civilian, non-LEO gun ownership again, though that will require not only the DC Circuit court but also SCOTUS to rule correctly (well, at least SCOTUS as a bad DC Circuit ruling would still be appealed).

I think that eventually we'll get a SCOTUS decision in our favor that will clear a lot of gun control from the books. It may well take another 100 years, but I'm hopeful we'll see it in my lifetime.

With any luck the govt's of our European cousins will also see the light and change their laws WRT guns and freedom.
 
Those teargas guns used to be popular in the U.S. among paper delivery boys. My dad used to have him for when he was picking up the deposits and weirdos (bums) would hastle him. Apparently they were both legal to own and sold to children (at least in an "under the counter" manner) for quite some time in this country. A kid would probably wind up in prison is he shot at some bum with one of those these days.

According to him the effectiveness of the weapon had more to do with the "oh crap I just got shot" effect than any actual disabling ability of the weapon. It seems that it would work suitably well against the average criminal but, would prove innefective against the proverbial "PCP crazed loonie". It sure beats the pants off of nothing though.
 
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