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Let's Hear It For the Autos That Require Little To No Mods Out of the Box For You

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Ian11, Jul 9, 2003.

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  1. Ian11

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    Most handguns from reputable manufacturers really don't require any mods for it to work to satisfactorily. Although, aftermarket parts and mods is a "hidden cost" that one has to factor in with certain guns for certain people. For instance, with a Colt M1911A1 or Browning HP I always "have to" get a trigger job, a new extractor or ejector, different safety, and maybe new grips. Not absolutely necessary but I feel more comfortable doing it. Even with Glocks I always have to get new sights for them. I can't stand the factory Glock sights. But there are certain guns where I know I won't have to factor in those "hidden costs" when I buy one. Just lots of ammo and magazines.

    For instance, I never felt the need for a trigger job, different sights, springs, parts, etc. etc. on SIG Sauer Classic P series guns and Beretta 92FS's. None.

    So, which ones (for you) is this esp. true?


    *Although, if I know I'll be relying on a particular pistol as my primary defense pistol I "have to" put nightsights on them.
     
  2. Bowlcut

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    so far ive been happy with my sw99...despite its trigger feeling a touch heavier than sheslinger's p99. ive been decently accurate with it. love its trigger, im the only one i think, and the handle feels as if it were molded to my hand
     
  3. BerettaNut92

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    P7M8, Beretta 92G Elite II.

    After that it's personal preference (sights, trigger, carbon fiber)
     
  4. cslinger

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    If it says SIG what more could you ask for.:D

    Actually I would have to say.
    SIG
    Glock
    Ruger
    Beretta
    Smith......unless you yank that stupid magazine disconnect out but I digress.
    CZ
    HK Pseries


    Now I am not saying that you might not want to add goodies but in my experience all of the above have been stellar out of the box with the big nod going to my SIGs and P7.
     
  5. Double Maduro

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    Ruger MkII No changes--in==one of the best triggers I have ever felt on anything.
    Ruger 22/45 No changes
    Ruger P90 Hogue grips
    Makarov Cleaned the cosmoline off it.

    I have been thinking about a red dot for the 22/45

    DM
     
  6. Big Mike

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    Beretta 92 Brig.
    Glock 26.

    Mike
     
  7. davidtdm

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    Kimber Pro Cary HD *
    Ruger P95

    ...Dave

    *Although I'm a lefty I may at some point want to put an ambi safety on it.
     
  8. Bobarino

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    H&K USP. why mess with perfection? i did polish my feed ramp but really out of boredom, not necessity. i just like to tinker.

    Bobby
     
  9. 10-Ring

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    So far, my 2 Italian Berettas and my 6 HK pistols have required no mods ;)
     
  10. Boats

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    I will be a little defiant here. My latest 1911, a Loaded Springfield Champion 1911 did not "need" anything. I chose to refinish it. I chose to ditch the FLGR, I chose to get Laser Grips. I chose to buy a new extractor and mag button. It came with an ambi-safety, Novak night sights, a high grip beaver tail and adequate grips and functioning, including the trigger despite the horror stories I have heard about SA's ILS system. All I have been doing is customizing it.

    While we are at "hidden costs" discuss the following about your own favorites here:

    1) Do you have to acquire "banned" full-cap mags for it? This issue alone prevents me from seriously looking at the Glock 20 until winter 2004.

    2) Do you prefer night sights on your SD weapon? Not too many come with them standard.

    3) Do you need an extension to get your entire hand on it?

    4) Do you need to change a spring or a part to make the trigger acceptable?
     
  11. dsk

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    IMO Berettas "need" replacement of the original mag springs with Wolff Xtra power ones (on pre-ban mags). I also replaced the mainspring in mine to in order to help the DA pull.

    HK's and SIG's also "need" a trigger job, but it isn't easy to do.

    A nit-picky owner could find a reason to "improve" just about any auto out of the box, as long as he/she can get the parts for it.
     
  12. 9x19

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    Glock and Ruger have been the most consistent performers for me.

    Kel-Tecs I own do not need any mods, but I'm aware that some do respond to the "KTOG fluff and buff".
     
  13. CZF

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    CZ75B/BD. Performs as a police gun from Turkey to Brazil.

    Runs right out the box. Just feed it good ammo and it will work
    like a gem.
     

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    Well there's my S&W 1905 Hand Ejector/Military & Police model. Never polished the feed ramp, doesn't have a grip safety, trigger job wasn't necessary, has the same sights it came with - haven't spent a dime on gadgets, but it works fine.

    Some people are no fun at all .....
     
  15. George Hill

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    Wait a sec... this is a back handed slap at 1911's.
    Most every new 1911 out there NIB doesn't NEED anything done to them.

    However, it's isn't always about NEED is it? It's about want. If it was about NEED, everyone would be packing around standard issue .38 revolvers.

    Luckily it's about WANT.

    I WANT custom grips. I WANT a super slick trigger.
    This is why I am not a fan of Glocks... there are no custom wood grips for them.
     
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    Glocks - 19, 26, 23. Work great right out of the box.

    Scott
     
  17. Sisco

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    No changes? You're kiddin', right? I always gotta change something if it needs it or not! :D
     
  18. Jiml3

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    All run like you would want right out of the box. I haven't had a need to spend money on any improvements.
     
  19. CWL

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    I have yet to purchase a pistol where I knew beforehand that I needed aftermarket smithing. I suppose I am still a novice with only 19 years of handgun ownership.

    Guns either work or they don't. Complaints about handguns usually fall into the "return for warranty repairs" category.

    'Mods' are things that you do to your gun that you don't have to.
     
  20. Lone_Gunman

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    The reason why a lot of people modify a 1911 is because they can.


    Its a good thing most Sig and Beretta owners don't want to modify their guns too much, because they would have a hard time finding anything with which to modify them.

    Agree this is a back door 1911 attack.
     
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    1st generation Glock 17. Over 15 years as my CCW and the only non-original component is a Hogue HandAll grip sleeve.
     
  22. agtman

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    S&W 10XX-series & 45XX-series pistols.
     
  23. Dobe

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    I agree, George. My four Kimbers did not n-e-e-d a thing. They all shot fine and functioned well.
     
  24. firestar

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    Beretta 92fs.

    I like to tinker and buy thing for my guns but only if they improve them somehow. I have not found anything that I could improve on my Beretta 92fs. It has night sights, the smoothest DA trigger I have ever felt on an auto, is 100% reliable, etc. It came with two sets of grips, one standard black plastic and one rubber set. I took off the rubber set and put back on the standard grips and I love it.
     
  25. cool45auto

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    Ditto.:cool:
     
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