"Liberals Need Not Fear the Right to Bear Arms"

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I don't think this has been posted before or if this is the right place to post this, but I thought I'd share with the rest of y'all.

Interesting read from the University of California, Santa Barbara.

http://www.dailynexus.com/article.php?a=14361

Liberals Need Not Fear the Right to Bear Arms
Michael Helmeste
Published Thursday, June 7, 2007
Issue 137 / Volume 87

I’m a liberal. My voting record is largely Green Party and Democrat. I’m a strong environmentalist - I respect and treat all life equally. I think equal opportunity is a good concept, and I view our international policy with distaste.

I’m also a gun collector and strong proponent of the Second Amendment.

People have been misled to think that guns are a Republican thing. That’s unfortunate. Gun ownership is the most liberal thing I can imagine. It’s about keeping power in the hands of the people instead of being exclusively the tools of government and the rich. It’s about equality, letting an old woman defend herself as well as a bodybuilder. It’s about being able to protect not only the people that are important to us but the rest of our freedoms as well.

In an effort to garner votes, the Democrats have used guns as a scapegoat like the Republicans have used terror. They’ve created boogymen like “assault weapons” to convince constituents something is being done about the fundamentally human problem of violence. By banning guns, Democrats want you to believe something is being done to bring down crime. Do you know the definition of assault weapon? It’s not a machine gun. It’s a gun that has features like a grip that protrudes from the bottom or a bayonet lug. When’s the last time anyone was bayoneted? Another sensationalized item is hollow point ammo - bullets that flatten when they hit something. The police switched to hollow points because the alternative, round bullets, had a tendency to go straight through objects, ricochet and they also require a greater number of shots to stop attackers.

Guns aren’t even the most damaging method of killing. In the Happy Land Fire, a man killed 87 people with one dollar’s worth of gas. The record number of deaths at a school is held by a person with a bomb, not a gun. A nut job with a car in a crowded area can do more damage than a man with a bag full of guns. Where’s our gas licensing? Let’s ban cars. Americans understand cars; not many understand guns because they’re getting their information from a media that loves to sensationalize. You hear about one psychopath killer, but not about the thousands of people who were saved from being murdered or raped.

Guns are the best tools we as citizens have for defense. Not only has the Supreme Court ruled that police have no obligation to protect individuals, but it’s a physical impossibility for police to be there at all times. We shouldn’t rely on others for self-defense.

Guns also protect our freedoms. They ensure that, if necessary, the people have means to offer resistance to rogue authority. It wasn’t long ago that rogue police officers, after illegally disarming the citizenry, took advantage of Hurricane Katrina to steal much-needed food and supplies. A liberal should know that authority figures commit crimes every day. If we take physical power away from the people, what’s left to balance against governmental abuse? If we take guns away from the people, only criminals and the government will have them.

Banning guns to reduce violence is like playing Whac-A-Mole, remove one weapon and another will pop up. People have one less way to hurt each other out of billions. Unfortunately the unique benefits guns provide are gone, along with the lack of shootings, and there’s no replacing them.

It’s a citizen’s duty to vote with an informed understanding. Next time you see a gun control bill, don’t agree because it looks like common sense. Take the time to educate yourself on the terms, try substituting “gun” for “car” to remove an emotional bias. Place Second Amendment infringements in the context of better understood ones. Should we ban Ferraris because they’re too fast for normal citizens, or revolutionary texts because they’re too powerful? Go to a range and try out a gun. How could someone who’s never shot a gun dictate what types are and aren’t allowed?

Bearing arms is a constitutional right. It’s an empowerment of the citizenry that, like free speech, must be preserved for the most dire circumstances, lest we find it gone when we most need it. Let’s not define a freedom by its abuse, and let’s not give it up just because we don’t understand it.

Michael Helmeste is a UCSB staff member.
 
Holy Smokes!

And it's not even April.

I'm flipping through my hyperbole files and I just don't have anything good enough for this.

I'm . . . surprised.

Pleased . . . and surprised.

Gotta say, I wasn't expecting that.
 
I'm surprised that you guys are surprised.

We all need to get away from preconceived notions, not just liberals. We have President Bush, who is a so-called conservative Republican, "perhaps the most conservative Republican ever" mass media says. I don't get it, sorry. Every major decision Bush has made is not conservative at all. Let's all just throw away the labels - republican this, conservative that, Democrat this, liberal that. It's all just a bunch of false labels for people who don't want to think critically and learn. Look where we are now: We have a so-called conservative President whose actions prove he’s anti-Bill of Rights and, therefore, anti-Second Amendment.

I'm not on a high horse because I'm pointing the finger at myself too.
 
This guy is the exception. Your typical liberal is a government loving, nanny stater who wants government to take care of them from cradle to grave while taking no responsibility for themselves. They want to feel that calling 911 will resolve any safety or criminal issue that arises. They believe that banning guns will make them safer. To the typical liberal, government is the solution and will make everything better.
 
Fully half of gun owners are registered Dems and indies. Just because the Dem leadership lost touch with the rank-and-file in the late '80s through '04 or so doesn't mean that most rank and file Dems support bans.
 
That's funny. I graduated from UCSB in 2004. I'm surprised the newspaper even let that opinion piece get published; the school is incredibly anti gun.
 
The writer is a classical liberal. I might not agree with some of his notions, ("I respect and treat all life equally") as equality only counts with human beings. I'm sorry, but a June bug and a 10 year old boy are not equal. I don't kill things unless they are dangerous, good to eat or I don't have a choice in the matter as with microscopic life. Doesn't make 'em equal. I digress.

If you read carefully, the man is grasping the fact that individualism is ascendant. He also recognizes that some government it not at all necessarily bad. He believes that one's well being is personal. Groups (government) can gather together to make things more efficient or satisfying. That is a classical Liberal notion. Where today's libs have gone wrong is they have bought into the laziness of Statism because it is an emotional issue. The neo-liberal is a collectivist because they have become soft and is directed by emotion rather than reason.

The odd thing is today's conservative is closer to being a classical liberal; keep what works and try new stuff by using history as a measure of possible success as much as possible.

The thing about freedom is that it must be risky by nature. The movement by todays neo-libs to make everything and everybody safe stultifies freedom.

I'm off topic, so I'll shut up now.
 
While I'm sure the author and I would differ on most issues, I respect that he wrote such a well-worded article on something we can both agree.

And from a California University, nonetheless. I would like to see the local responses to this article.
 
I'm off topic, so I'll shut up now.

Actually, you are exactly on topic. The author is a classic liberal and fails to see that his audience (the Big L Liberals) do not share his beliefs. Liberalism today seeks gov't control and power in order to change society in the manner it chooses is "best" for everyone. That's where the real opposition to firearms for the populace comes from; you can't "enlighten" everyone unless you can completely control them, and you can't completely control them unless you disarm them and retain a total monopoly on force.
 
I'm surprised that you guys are surprised.

The surprise is not that a "liberal Gets it." The surprise is that his view point was allowed out in a mostly Socialist atmosphere.

Let's get one thing straight. True Liberals are not the problem. The problem is Socialists. Socialists are power mad goons who have taken over the term "Liberal". If REAL Liberals would take the term back and kick out their Socialist leadership and mouth pieces, then the country as a whole would be better off.

Liberal does not mean Libertine Country Hating Anti-Constitutionalist. Sadly that is what has come to mean because of the influence of Socialists. So much so that Dem leadership can’t even use it any more. They have to use Progressive. .

I'm not Liberal. I'm very conservative. But Conservatives and Liberals can work together. Conservatives and Socialists CAN NOT. How do you compromise with evil?
 
arthurcw is correct, we need to start calling "liberals" what they are: socialists. Socialist only believe in guns for their revolutionary soldiers, not the common people. Even in Russia today it is nearly impossible to own a proper gun.
 
a dang fine liberal article by a true liberal and not a socialist hiding behind the liberal label.

who knows... maybe in spite of it all common sense cannot be so easily extinguished after all. I can certainly hope :D
 
For a further surprise...

See if you can scrape up a copy of BEAT THE HEAT.

This was published by Ramparts Press back in the "Radical" days and has some very interesting commentary as well as a few photographs of armed citizenry demonstrating various weaponry.

If a THR member has a scanner capable of automatic text conversion and/or PDF generation, this might make for an interesting project...
 
Let's get one thing straight. True Liberals are not the problem. The problem is Socialists. Socialists are power mad goons who have taken over the term "Liberal". If REAL Liberals would take the term back and kick out their Socialist leadership and mouth pieces, then the country as a whole would be better off.

Such unmitigated nonsense demonstrates only an ignorance of socialism, American liberalism and the functioning leadership of the Democratic Party.
 
Grampster- lol

the june bug/10 year old boy comparison made me chuckle..very true.

ps- nice random specific age...?
 
Dianne Feinstein is neither a liberal nor a socialist. She is an elitist authoritarian.

There are anti-gun socialists, and pro-gun socialists (remember the Black Panthers, most of whom were law-abiding?) There are anti-gun liberals, and pro-gun liberals. But there are very, very few pro-gun elitists or authoritarians.
 
Perhaps I oversimplify, but I believe there is a very clear line drawn in the sand, and he is on our side of the sand.

I can only imagine the pressure and criticism someone in his position would receive from colleagues for not only producing that type of article, but just for having those beliefs. That took some serious intestinal fortitude.

Someone give the man a box of ammo for taking our side.
 
:banghead:
Let’s not define a freedom by its abuse

Wow. Contrast this statement with:

When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans, it was assumed that the Americans who had that freedom would use it responsibly.... [However, now] there's a lot of irresponsibility. And so a lot of people say there's too much freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. - Bill Clinton

I don't know how you could have more diametrically opposed viewpoints. There is hope if social conservatives and classical liberals can find common ground and cooperate. Sadly, the majority in this country is too intellectually lazy to even have a point of view.
 
I have been preeching the "nut in a car in a crowded area" thing for years. There are many ways to kill a lot of people quickly if a nut job so desires and the media only go after guns. :banghead:
 
I have said it for years, the right to self defense from tyranny in government or criminals is a basic human right that is as liberal a cause as there ever was. How "liberals" fail to see that is a mystery to me. It's a very liberal oriented issue really.
 
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