Liberty Presidential 50 Review

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Sep 16, 2010
Well, I got this new Liberty safe installed and loaded so I figured I'd write up a quick review since I couldn't find any when I ordered it. It seems like every review on Liberty safes is written by the Liberty PR dept, and everyone else seems to have strong opinions on whether Liberty is awesome or just sucks. Even though I just forked out $4K to get this guy, I will try to be as impartial as possible with my opinions.

I am not a security expert in any way, so I won't comment on how this safe will do against a break-in, although I do have a feeling it will fair about as well as anything else in the price range. As far as other safes go, I also considered the AmSec BF7240 and a Sturdy safe. The reason I went with the Liberty was mostly because I got a better price than the AmSec and the Sturdy interior doesn't seem as flexible/nice (although I could be wrong since I never saw one in person).

The safe itself is a beast. The outside dimensions are 72.5"x42"x30.5" and it weighs in at 1565 lbs. Let me say that moving a safe of this size is NOT an easy task and it took several guys quite a while to get it moved through the house. I can guarantee you that this is the last safe I'll ever buy because my wife will never let something like this happen again...

This review did run a lot longer than I was planning; but, hopefully it will prove to be useful for someone who is seriously considering buying a Liberty Presidential model. Let me know if there is anything else you would like me to look at or if you think I'm wrong with some of my data so I can re-check.

Also, thanks to the people on this forum that helped me research what safe to buy - even though I know I didn't get the safe that many of you recommended...

For the rest of this review, I used my trusty micrometer to get all measurements that I list.

*** Exterior ***

The exterior of the safe looks great and seriously imposing because of the size. I got the gray marble paint since it was cheapest and I can't find any nicks or other imperfections. It also seems much more durable than the paint on my previous safe from Sportsman Steel which started chipping and cracking almost from the day I received it.

I suspect Liberty sells a lot of these purely for external looks.

*** Door ***

The steel on the door is right around .19" thick according to my measurement. There is also an internal 1/4" steel plate covering the entire door and a ball-bearing hardplate. On paper, this puts the Presidential door just a bit under the 1/2" plate door from AmSec and it's thicker than the 5/16" door from Sturdy.

I measured a .2" gap around the entire door that seems like it would be a good starting place for a pry attack. The Amsec safe I looked at had a similar gap (although I didn't measure it), but the Sturdy safes supposedly have very tight fitting doors (I haven't seen one so I can't verify that).

Because of the weight of the door, it causes the entire safe to lean forward slightly when the door is opened (I can tell when I put a level on the top). Despite the total weight of the safe, I went ahead and bolted it down - partially to keep it level when the door is open. If you have the safe installed on a hard surface instead of carpet, you may not see this.

The interior of the door has 3 layers of fireboard and there is another layer attached to the back of the door that the door panel is wrapped around (more on that later).

*** Hinges ***

There are 3 internal hinges on the right side of the safe that are 2.5" tall and about .36" thick. These hinges seem sturdy, although I suspect it would be a major issue to open or close the safe if they ever get damaged - I guess that's probably true to some extent with external hinges as well.

The hinges allow the door to open almost exactly 90 degrees - which may be good or bad depending on your situation. In my case, the safe fits very closely between 2 side walls - so the internal hinges are a great way to keep me from knocking a hole in the right-hand wall when I open the door (trust me, even being careful it would have happened eventually).

To avoid having the handle smack the right-hand wall when opened, the safe needs to sit just about 1.75" away from the wall.

*** Bolts ***

The bolts are exactly 1.5" in diameter and there are 26 of them. They extend 1.65" into the safe body. All 26 bolts are active, meaning that they open and close - rather than just the bolts on the opening side of the door like many safes have.

There is a small lever hidden under the door that is depressed when the door is closed and the bolts won't open if that lever is not depressed. That's kind of a nice feature since I know from my last safe that it's easy to accidentally close the safe with the bolts open...

There are 2 adjustment plates on the left hand side of the safe to make the bolts pull the door tight. To me, this seems odd since that means most of the bolts aren't actually holding the door unless someone is trying to pry it open. For the bolts not resting on those adjustment plates, there is about a 1/2" gap (in my case) before the bolts will come in contact with the body. I guess that may be normal since my Sportman steel had a similar setup (although it wasn't user adjustable).

*** Body ***

As with the door, the body is .19" thick. This puts it just a bit thicker than the steel in the AmSec body and the same as the Sturdy body.

There are 4 layers of fireboard in both the walls and ceiling and 1 layer in the floor. In some ways, I kind of wish I could remove one layer from the walls and ceiling to reclaim the space - but it looks like that would impact my warranty.

Liberty included a power cord that has a 90 degree angle on both sides to make it easier to fit the safe close to the rear wall - although have fun sliding this thing around. :)

*** Interior ***

This is one area where I was pretty disappointed with the Liberty Presidential. One reason I chose it over the Sturdy was because of the interior options, but I may end up rebuilding it to suit my needs just like I had to do with my last safe.

The safe came with 2 upper shelves and a shelf with gun cut-outs that is split in half. You can opt to use both halves for either guns or storage and there are a total of 4 adjustable shelves included (as well as 2 metal cover plates that can be used to cover the gun cut-outs).

In my case, I wanted all the space for gun storage - so I promptly removed all the shelves and found that the gun cut-out shelf didn't fit tightly without the shelves to support it. This caused an issue where several guns would fall over when I bumped the shelf at all. I'll admit this is a bit disappointing in a safe like this...

To solve the issue, I bought some thick felt strips and installed them on both sides of the gun support shelf to make it fit tight; and now it fits like it should. I realize this is a simple $1.50 fix, but it shouldn't have been needed.

I stacked the extra shelves on the bottom of the right-hand side so I could sit shorter guns on that side and have them reach the gun supports.

Overall, the Liberty interior is not as nice as the rest of the safe without having to do some work to remedy its ill-fitting shelves.

*** Options ***

The options I got with this safe are all standard options with the Presidential model except for the D-Drive lock. I'll cover each option individually.

The door organizer is about the best idea I've ever seen in a safe. I can fit everything from pistols, magazines, holsters, slings and chokes to important documents without taking up valuable shelf space. I had to be careful to not load it too full or it starts to push against the guns and shelves when closing - but that's not a big deal, just something to keep in mind. I think the holsters are probably my favorite part, although the whole system is just great!

The recessed lighting is a very nice feature in my case since there has never really been enough light in that closet to see inside the safe. There is a switch mounted on the right-hand side of the safe to turn the lights on when the door is opened. There are 2 lights that are 2.25" in diameter and they are mounted on the top, near the front of the safe. As far as the install quality goes, the lights seems like they were just slapped in and I know I could have made them feel more built-in if I had done the work myself - but isn't that true for most things...

The jewelry drawer is nice and is easily removed by unscrewing it from the shelf above. It works great to sit it on one of the upper shelves since the top of the drawer can be used as a shelf itself. I removed the internal compartments from the drawer and have found this is a great place to store suppressors. Unfortunately, Liberty didn't expect this drawer to be detached from the shelf and the top of mine is a bit damaged in the back - I'll probably contact Liberty to try and get a new one under warranty.

The leatherette welt cord strip is kind of a joke - I mean, it's nice, but I doubt it cost more than $2 to add to the safe. Liberty shouldn't have mentioned this as a big upgrade of the Presidential series.

The dehumidifier I got with mine was the PEET SafeKeeping Dryer, which seems to work fine and it wires right into the internal electrical plug. I also left the absorbant that I used to use just for extra protection.

*** Conclusion ***

Overall, I'd have to say that my opinion of this safe is mixed. I feel like it is as secure as anything else in the price range and I suspect the fire lining is just about the same as well (although it is quite a bit thicker than the AmSec for the same protection).

The exterior looks great and feels solid. The interior has some great features, but the quality is lacking in some cases and I may end up doing some 'remodelling' to get it how I want. I guess the exterior is the part that can't be replaced, so I'm glad it isn't the other way around.

I guess I'd have to recommend this with reservations, but be sure to shop around since you can get a LOT better price than Liberty advertises on their website.
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A good honest review.
I own an Amsec BF 66X36 and researched gun safes for two years before buying.
I will say if I was to own A Liberty the Presidential would be my choice.
My biggest complaint with Liberty is the internal hinges.
Thanks for the comments guys!

heeler -
I agree that the internal hinges would not be as good if you have space to open the door more than 90 degrees. On the other hand, they are actually better if you don't have space to fully open the door.

Because of the internal pivot point, when I open the Liberty safe door it ends up being mostly out of the way of the safe interior. In my case, the 5.75" thick door intrudes less than 3" into the opening and it has swung out far enough that it doesn't seem like it's blocking the interior much.

My previous safe had external hinges; so, when it was opened only 90 degrees, almost the entire thickness of the door was blocking the opening and it felt like the door was in the way.

Just to be clear, I am NOT saying internal hinges are better. Honestly, I would prefer external hinges if I had room to open the door more than 90 degrees. My point is for people who, like me, don't have space to open the door more than 90 degrees.
Thank you for review myrdraal0, I'm in the market too for a gun safe and do have the Liberty Presidential on my list.

I have to say a couple things though on your review which was very good btw.

You said:

*** Door ***

The steel on the door is right around .19" thick according to my measurement. There is also an internal 1/4" steel plate covering the entire door and a ball-bearing hardplate. On paper, this puts the Presidential door just a bit under the 1/2" plate door from AmSec and it's thicker than the 5/16" door from Sturdy.

The Sturdy's door at 5/16" is actually thicker than the 1/4" or 4/16" on the Liberty Presidential door.

For the 6 foot high model of the BF, the door is only 3/8" or 6/16" thick so it really isn't a whole lot better than the Sturdy or the Liberty in steel plate thickness of the door.

I really don't know how well those fire boards (drywall) will be for fire protection within the Liberty. From what I've read, the gypsum drywall actually conducts heat pretty well but becomes effective as a fire barrier due to the water that is trapped within its composition of gypsum being driven off as steam. What bothers me about this is how much steam will these boards actually be able to release within the closed volume of the gun safe in order to be effective? Yes the moisture in the air will raise the flash point of the material within the safe but what will the superheated steam do to my rare WWII gun stocks with original inspection stampings aka Cartouches? I guess on this the dry fire protection of the Sturdy or AMSEC wins out but if there are a bunch of folks with Liberty Presidential gun safes that survived bad multilevel house fires with guns relatively intact, I'll be happy to change my mind.

It seemed like you got a good deal none the less for 4K as compared to what I've seen for prices elsewhere. On Sturdy's website I priced something similar for around the same price but I'm not sure how much a AMSEC would go for on the street.

Well thanks for the review again, it kind of confirmed my thoughts on the Liberty Presidential and for my own reasons pushes me more towards the Sturdy or a good used TL rated safe.
Here is how I came to that conclusion on the doors:

AmSec door -
On the BF7240, which I was looking at, the plate door is .5" thick. You're right that the BF7250 only appears to have a 3/8" (or .375") thick plate door.

Liberty Presidential door -
Since this is a composite door, it has a .19" thick skin with an embedded 1/4" steel plate. That brings the total combined steel thickness to .44".

Sturdy door -
The steel in the Sturdy doors is 5/16" (or .3125") thick.

Hopefully that makes sense - I was talking about the combined steel thickness. I did the same thing on the body where both the Liberty and Sturdy have 3/16" steel skins, but the AmSec has 2 layers which add up to be just a bit thinner.

I'm with you on the fireboard worries. The insulation used by Sturdy seems very interesting to me since it wouldn't contain any moisture at all and would just create a heat barrier. The Sturdy insulation is also a lot lighter, which would make the safe easier to move without professionals.

At the end of the day, none of these are UL rated for fire so it's anyone's guess how they will perform. My suspicion is that they would be fairly similar - and Liberty definitely has plenty of safes sitting around that survived house fires with the contents intact. Sturdy also puts out a lot of info on how their safes have faired in fires, but I couldn't find any info on how the AmSecs did with the DryLight insulation (my guess is this is because AmSec is a lot less focused on the 'gun safe' market than the other two so they don't spend as much time advertising them).
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You have your facts wrong about the BF's door LTORI.
The BF door is half inch thick steel plate backed up by a steel enclosed one inch barrier of Dry-Lite concrete type insulation.
It is not a composite door seen on so many gun safes.
That's 1/4 inch thicker than the Liberty's backing plate and 3/16 thicker than sturdy's plate door.
The BF 72x50 does have a 3/8 inch door though due to it's massive overall size.
But all other BF models use solid half inch plate steel and I love it every time I swing that heavy door open.

Edit to add...myrdraalo,the body thickness on the Liberty and Sturdy are 3/16th or 7 gauge if you will but certainly not 5/16th.
If they were that thick I would have gladly purchased one.
The total steel in the walls of the BF are 3/16th but it also has two inches of enclosed Dry-Lite fill.
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Lol, you're right about that typo on the body thickness - I'll correct it in my previous post.
Congratulations on your safe purchase.

LTROI wrote: It seemed like you got a good deal none the less for 4K as compared to what I've seen for prices elsewhere. On Sturdy's website I priced something similar for around the same price but I'm not sure how much a AMSEC would go for on the street.

One of the dealers I've talked with quoted BF7240 ~ $3200, and BF7250 ~ $3800. If they really need to move inventory, it might be lower. It really depends on what's available - prices for AMSECs seem to be all over the place. I've been quoted MSRP quite often.

The Liberty dealer nearby me has a great reputation for service. I would have been perfectly happy with a higher-end Liberty, but at the time the AMSEC price was too good a deal to pass up.

myrdraal0 wrote: The steel on the door is right around .19" thick according to my measurement. There is also an internal 1/4" steel plate covering the entire door and a ball-bearing hardplate. On paper, this puts the Presidential door just a bit under the 1/2" plate door from AmSec and it's thicker than the 5/16" door from Sturdy.

IMO, the most effective place to have solid plate on the door is right up front. Even if the Liberty's inner door plate were a 1/2 inch thick, the AMSEC door still would be better, especially against pry attacks. I'm kind of skeptical of front-face composite w/gypsum doors, but it's just an opinion :D. Regardless, the Presidential is plenty of protection against your smash-and-grab thieves.

Again thanks for the review.
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Your not kidding about Amsec prices being all over the place al123.
My 66x36 I purchased was priced at $2299.00.
I was quoted a price at another local place for $2880.00.
The lowest price I saw for a Liberty Presidential was $3200.00 and that was the smallest 25 cubic foot model.
So if the original poster bought his model 50 for 4k all I can say is for those gun safes that was a very good price indeed as most here are around $47-$5200.00.

Edit to add...The dealer I purcased my Amsec from would have sold me a 72x40 BF for under 3k.
Wow, if I had found those prices on an AmSec I would have bought one for sure. Everyone I talked to locally priced the BF7240 quite a bit higher than the prices you guys are mentioning - and it would have cost more to have it moved in as well...

Even with the higher prices, I had decided on the BF7240 - but when I called the local Liberty guy I had been talking to he offered me a great deal on the Liberty Presidential, so I jumped at it. In some cases it pays to be polite and give a courtesy call to people you've been working with. :)
Liberty Presidential door -
Since this is a composite door, it has a .19" thick skin with an embedded 1/4" steel plate. That brings the total combined steel thickness to .44".
Oh I see what your are saying now, sorry about that. I did take a closer look on their website and it does look like a strong door for sure, I think I'm going to have to take a closer look at the Presidential.

heeler, you're right I forgot about the BF 7240 model that has the 1/2" plate like the shorter models. I had just remembered the BF 7250 had 3/8" plate when I spoke about the 6 foot models of the BF.

Those are really competitive prices on those AMSEC safes a1abcdj, I'll see if I can find a dealer willing to sell one to me at those prices.
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