Life After CCW

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I recently acquired my Ohio CCW. A friend at THR suggested I post my comments here about how it's changed me.

It started off as a rant because ABC News had a segment on the growing number of women taking up shooting, and fears from gun control lobbyists about increased violence from women. Some of the numbers they put up shocked me: 20 times more likely for gun owners to be shot in their own homes, and the like.

The tone, as I saw it, was that we are the docile and submissive half of the species and we should all be surprised that women may want to shoot guns for some of the same reasons men do!:cuss:

Here is what I have found since I acquired my CCW and started carrying a gun everywhere I legally can. I had thought it would make me more paranoid that everyone I passed on the street would want to hurt me. Actually I have the opposite effect. Knowing that I can take someone's life makes me less likely to want to do so.

A contradiction? I think not. I feel that responsibility for ensuring my own and others' safety deep in my core. When I put that little 638 in my purse or jacket pocket, I know that I need to be more aware of my surroundings and who is doing what, not less. It doesn't give me a sense of false security or that I'm some ersatz female Dirty Harry off to fight all the bad guys.:D

I'm not ashamed to say I'm in that one out of four women who has been sexually assaulted. I'm not even ashamed to say I didn't resist because I was too afraid to, although like over 90% of victims I knew my attacker. It won't happen again, at least not without putting up a fight and shooting my attacker, whether or not I know him. If I'm going down, I'll take him with me.:fire:

Yet, the gun does not give false security or make me cocky and arrogant. I won't go looking for trouble. In fact, the opposite is true. I feel safer carrying it around my rural property. Someone wandered onto my property recently and I had my 638 in my pocket. It turned out he'd had a car accident up the road and wanted to use my phone. I went inside, taking the dogs with me, and brought out the cordless so he could call for assistance. I was alone at the time, but waited with him. I kept my eye on him, but never felt a need to draw my gun.

One thing I did take from the CCW class was not to wave the gun around, hoping to deter an attacker. My instructor said, "If you're going to draw, shoot. If you're going to shoot, shoot to kill." That gives a sense of the responsibility involved in carrying that I wouldn't have otherwise.

It's nice to have forums like THR where people can share these kinds of experiences. Also if anyone wondered how a generally pacifist person feels about carrying, maybe it will give some insight into why it's necessary for citizens to defend themselves.

Annie:)
 
Great Post!

Thank you for the great thread. It really is inline with my personal expierence when I started carrying a gun.

I have to comment on one thing that you said and that was the fact that if you draw your gun you had better shoot. There are countless stories here in THR and on the internet of people that were able to deter an attack with the mere sight of gun. I don't think I would rule out brandishing your gun shooting should always be your absolute last option.

Thanks
 
Annie,

The first time i met a women who carried, it was 1969. She had been victimized at some point and decided it would not happen again. She lived alone but had the most protective Rhodesian ridge-back I have ever met.

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She carried a snub nose of some sort and since this was N.M. she often carried openly. I had great respect for her. And you, for deciding that a persons sex and size should not be an invitation to dirt bags.
 
When I put that little 638 in my purse or jacket pocket, I know that I need to be more aware of my surroundings and who is doing what, not less.
You nailed it, right there m'am.
Question... no holster? Only asking that relative to "drawing" the 638. Also, when on your rural property can you carry openly? Just thinking about the draw time factor diff between open and pocket carry. Discretion being the better part of valor, it's a rhetorical question... just something to think about.
Dogs... good.
Very strong post W_A.
 
I too am increasingly worried about violence from females. However, I'm worried about it in the context of my girlfriend finding out about my other girlfriends.:uhoh: Now, that's a receipe for violence!:D

The pistol is just a tool. It is not magic and it does not make one superman (or superwoman). Software trumps hardware all day long.:)
 
I had thought it would make me more paranoid that everyone I passed on the street would want to hurt me. Actually I have the opposite effect. Knowing that I can take someone's life makes me less likely to want to do so.

What I find both amusing and frustrating about those who don't approve of CCW is that if a little Asian man wearing a starched white Gi was to stand in front of them and speak in broken English telling them that whatever martial art he practices makes him less likely to be violent because he knows he can take on an opponent they'd all nod in agreement.

But an American citizen standing there telling them that packing a gun will likewise make them less violent for exactly the same reason and they begin wailing about blood thirsty "civilians" shooting each other over parking spaces.


In a way the anti-CCW movement is just another part of the abject hatred of our entire culture by the left (if its done by a non-westerner its good, if its done by a westerner its bad).
 
sturmruger said:
I have to comment on one thing that you said and that was the fact that if you draw your gun you had better shoot. There are countless stories here in THR and on the internet of people that were able to deter an attack with the mere sight of gun. I don't think I would rule out brandishing your gun shooting should always be your absolute last option.

My grandpa had a saying that went kind of like this...
"Don't carry it if you ain't willing to pull it.
Don't pull it if you ain't willing to point it.
Don't point it if you ain't willing to kick off the safety.
Don't kick off the safety unless you're willing to shoot.
Don't shoot unless you're willing to kill."

That was basically his long-winded way of saying that if you're not willing to kill somebody, then there's no point in carrying a gun at all. I think it's similar to what people mean when they say that you shouldn't draw a gun at all unless you're going to shoot it. The logic being that you don't draw a gun to scare people, or to intimidate people, or to 'prevent a bad situation'. Drawing it is a last resort which implies that all of the means and methods of resolving a situation that don't involve someone assuming room temperature have been exhausted.

That's just my take on it, anyway. Past perfomance is not indicative of future results.
 
Wow, great OP. I am glad to hear it is working out so well for you. May you never have to use it.
 
Sturmruger, I have to agree with 'Card on the "don't pull unless you aim to shoot" theory. I had thought I could just brandish it and scare someone. But the way the instructor and my husband have put it is, "Brandishing a gun without shooting, or shooting only to injure, gives the attacker an opportunity to draw and shoot you."

My only gripe is that I am a government employee, and therefore, not permitted to carry at work. So I leave it in my car a few blocks away, or leave it in the car at the park-n-ride and walk around downtown without. I've thought of asking if my building can institute a "gun check" policy. Like Dodge City or something.:D But I'm sure there would be serious liability issues with something like that.

Thanks to everyone for the response. It's nice to know I'm not that far off-base in my thinking.:)
 
Agreed, Great Post Annie~!

So sorry that you had too experience a bad ordeal; but many thanks
for making other's aware it could happen to them. Yes, its a fact that
when one chooses to CCW they must have their brain in gear
at all times. Being aware of your surroundings,and what action to take
if confronted are only one-half of the battle.:uhoh: Each move by the
perp must be reacted to by an appropriate counter move by the victim.
Of course, use of deadly physical force as a last resort is always in the
back of the intended victims mind. Your CCW instructor was absolutely
right in stating that if you pull a gun in defense of your (or someone
else's) life, then use it with intentions too stop the threat~!:uhoh:
 
Zundfolge said:
What I find both amusing and frustrating about those who don't approve of CCW is that if a little Asian man wearing a starched white Gi was to stand in front of them and speak in broken English telling them that whatever martial art he practices makes him less likely to be violent because he knows he can take on an opponent they'd all nod in agreement.

But an American citizen standing there telling them that packing a gun will likewise make them less violent for exactly the same reason and they begin wailing about blood thirsty "civilians" shooting each other over parking spaces.


In a way the anti-CCW movement is just another part of the abject hatred of our entire culture by the left (if its done by a non-westerner its good, if its done by a westerner its bad).
hahaha...that's probably one of the most retarded shiz i've ever heard.

Breaking news: white people do practice martial arts and asian people are gun owners too.
 
United States is one of the few and rare country in the world that allows its citizens to own weapons legally. I guess the rest of the world is against westerners and white people, right? :uhoh: :uhoh:

Also, comparing guns vs. martial arts is like comparing apples to oranges. A 10 year-old kid with a 9mm can easily kill a professional kickboxer in fraction of a second.
 
Let's try to keep the drooling to a bare minimum. I really hate having to sop that stuff up with a rag.

Thanks,
The Management :)
 
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Annie... been packing legally for nigh on 7 years now...

I could NOT have said it better myself... (though I have never been assaulted, sexually or otherwise, myself) I too vow never to be a willing victim...

Now, if only more women (and men) were like you!

GREAT post...
 
Annie, excellent post. I appreciate your insight, especially since I just recived my CHL in the mail today. I've got my gun on my hip, but I'm hesitant to go anywhere with it now. I know it will take a few times for me to feel really comfortable, but I'm glad I have the option.

One other thing, and I know it is symantics, but it just may help in the event of a court case. I'd prefer that everyone state they are shooting to stop the attack, not to kill. While that may be the same thing, it won't sound as bad to the Grand Jury if you say "I kept shooting until he stopped attacking" instead of "I kept shooting until he was dead." Legally, once your life is no longer in danger, you are not authorized to use deadly force, so if you shoot, and the attack stops, if the attacker is not dead, you are not authorized to continue your deadly force. So, I shoot to stop, not to kill, although I AIM in the same place.
 
Girls with guns?

"If the bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girl stuff. Like hot oil wrestling, foxy boxing, and such and such."
-Homer Simpson

Sorry, couldn't resist. This is one of my favorite Simpson's quotes. :D
 
geek4life said:
United States is one of the few and rare country in the world that allows its citizens to own weapons legally. I guess the rest of the world is against westerners and white people, right?

Also, comparing guns vs. martial arts is like comparing apples to oranges. A 10 year-old kid with a 9mm can easily kill a professional kickboxer in fraction of a second.
White people? I always love how the one bringing up race is the one claiming racism :scrutiny:

You're clearly missing the point (apparently you're too clouded by PC buzzwordry to see beyond "uh-oh, whitey is talkin' smack 'gain").

Anyway, the point is that whether you are a 3rd degree black belt in Ninjitsu or you're packing a .357mag it generally has the same effect; you are more at ease and less likely to react violently because you know if the S hits the F you can take care of yourself.

Most "progressives", "liberals", anti CCW/anti gun folk etc. will freely admit that when someone embraces an eastern martial art that yes, that person is less likely to react violently to day to day things and is more relaxed and at ease with the world around them (I believe "in harmony with the energies around them" would be one way the more moonbat types would say it), but at the same time these people believe that if you allow an average American (white, black, brown, etc ... YOU'RE the one insisting that "American" = "whitey" :rolleyes: ) to carry a gun it will turn them into an evil, paranoid, murderous fiend.
 
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