Shinbone
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Anyone have load data for 125 grain lead RN for 9MM? I've searched my reloading manuals for this and can't find anything.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Load data for 9MM 125 gr lead?
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scott5
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Powder for 9mm
Hey Shinbone,
Try this :http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
Or this :http://www.stevespages.com/355p_4_124.html
Those should tell you everthing that you want to know.
Hey Shinbone,
Try this :http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
Or this :http://www.stevespages.com/355p_4_124.html
Those should tell you everthing that you want to know.
I've been loading 125gr LRN's from a local casting company on top of 4.0 to 4.2 grains of Bullseye with nice results. Works well, doesn't lead the barrel, and is dirt cheap. I'm sure more experienced reloaders have some great loads, but I'm satisfied enough after my first 500 rounds that I think I've found my 9mm load. Around here, Bullseye is ~$17 per lb, so 4.0 grains per charge averages out to 1,750 rounds per lb of powder. Stuff goes a long way.
The more handgun calibers I try with Bullseye, the more I wonder why anybody plinks with anything else. There are lots of better-performing powders, but I haven't found anything better for plinking and keeping costs down over a variety of calibers. I'd rather have a little extra money than a few extra fps for plinking loads.
The more handgun calibers I try with Bullseye, the more I wonder why anybody plinks with anything else. There are lots of better-performing powders, but I haven't found anything better for plinking and keeping costs down over a variety of calibers. I'd rather have a little extra money than a few extra fps for plinking loads.
RidgwayCO
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I posted this last September on THR. You might find it useful.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=472838
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=472838
LiveLife
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From my recent range tests, for MBC 125 gr "Small Ball" with rounder nose profile, these provided good accuracy with moderate recoil (Note shorter OAL of 1.10"):
Promo - 3.8/4.1 gr at 1.10" OAL
Green Dot - 3.8/4.1 gr at 1.10" OAL
Promo - 3.8/4.1 gr at 1.10" OAL
Green Dot - 3.8/4.1 gr at 1.10" OAL
I have just changed to the MBC SmallBall 125 gr for my CZ85 9x19.
5.6 gr AA#5
Win WSP
OAL 1.050 (the tight CZ likes them short)
Mixed brass.
MV 1060 fps.
Not a max pressure load.
Very consistent.
Clean brass lands in a nice little pile.
This is a good plinking load.
Be Safe and Have Fun !
-steve
5.6 gr AA#5
Win WSP
OAL 1.050 (the tight CZ likes them short)
Mixed brass.
MV 1060 fps.
Not a max pressure load.
Very consistent.
Clean brass lands in a nice little pile.
This is a good plinking load.
Be Safe and Have Fun !
-steve
When I plug your data into QuickLOAD I get just under 37,844 psi and 1161 fps
at your stated 1.05" OAL with MB 125 gr. LRN and 5.6 gr. AA#5
My CZ-75 needs a OAL of 1.05" as well, but QuickLOAD shows your 5.6 gr. AA#5 as an unsafe load by about 0.3 gr. Does your brass show any excessive pressure signs?
Shinbone
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These all sound good. Thanks. Sorry I couldn't get back sooner, but all "weapons" related web sites have been blocked where I work. 
armoredman
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I load theLee tumble lube bullet for 9mm, and I use a load that really is listed as too light. I work's great in my P01, but wouldn't cycle the P07 reliably. Lead casting can really save money, if that's what your doing.
Shinbone
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I am casting, but for my 1858 Remmy. .454 round ball of nearly pure lead. I don't have a mould for 9mm. I also cast for 38/357, but with an alloy, of course. I love the Lyman #358101 mould. Makes a nice 75 grain for 38 and has almost no recoil at all. Good for someone just starting to shoot.
BTW, what is MBC small ball?
BTW, what is MBC small ball?
Seedtick
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Jumping Frog
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The Ramshot powders loading guide does a good job of publishing load for lead pistol bullets in calibers where other powder manufacturers often publish only FMJ loads.
Ramshot Load Guide V4.3b
Ramshot Load Guide V4.3b
LotI
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125 MBC Smallball & Bullseye
I have played with Bullseye & Smallball and here's my results.
Rem brass, CCI primers, 1.070" COL-just off the lands. SD from 8-12fps.
CZ-75D PCR 3.8"bbl
3.7gr. 983fps
4.0gr. 1032fps
4.2gr. 1081fps
CZ-75 SP-01 Tactical 4.7"bbl
3.7gr. 1014fps
4.0gr. 1074fps
4.2gr. 1110fps
I've settled on 4.0gr. which puts the brass about 2 feet from the SP-01 and the compact ejects them smartly. Accuracy is fantastic. Price is great.
This is how it prices out for me per hundred, YMMV:
$5.94 bullets
$2.88 primers-bulk local w/tax
$.76 powder-bulk local w/tax
$9.58/100...I can live with that. Although it's about twice what I was paying in 2007
I have played with Bullseye & Smallball and here's my results.
Rem brass, CCI primers, 1.070" COL-just off the lands. SD from 8-12fps.
CZ-75D PCR 3.8"bbl
3.7gr. 983fps
4.0gr. 1032fps
4.2gr. 1081fps
CZ-75 SP-01 Tactical 4.7"bbl
3.7gr. 1014fps
4.0gr. 1074fps
4.2gr. 1110fps
I've settled on 4.0gr. which puts the brass about 2 feet from the SP-01 and the compact ejects them smartly. Accuracy is fantastic. Price is great.
This is how it prices out for me per hundred, YMMV:
$5.94 bullets
$2.88 primers-bulk local w/tax
$.76 powder-bulk local w/tax
$9.58/100...I can live with that. Although it's about twice what I was paying in 2007
Six
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I shoot Small Ball over Bullseye.
Mixed brass, CCI primers, 1.100" OAL
Glock 19 / 4" barrel
4.0gr Bullseye puts me right at 1100 fps
Mixed brass, CCI primers, 1.100" OAL
Glock 19 / 4" barrel
4.0gr Bullseye puts me right at 1100 fps
rbernie
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4.5gr of Unique.
evan price
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Between 4.0-4.5 grains of a fast pistol powder (Titegroup, Red Dot, Bullseye, Clays, 700-X, etc) work fine with cast 124-125 grain slugs, load to as long as you can get but feed reliably and not hit the leade of the chamber. Work from there.
71Commander
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3.7 titegroup @ 1.125 OAL. A nice, accurate shooter.
To answer the question from jfremder:
The brass does not show signs of excessive pressure.
The edges of the primers are rounded.
Operation in 2 different guns is normal.
The 9x19 is a small case, so it is quite sensitive to differences in loading components.
The MBC SmallBall bullet is very blunt and so the 9x19 loads need to have a short OAL, especially in a tight gun like a CZ.
A short OAL with a "normal" bullet will reduce the case capacity and can dramatically increase the max pressure.
Caution is definitely in order !
In addition to being blunt, the MBC SmallBall is also a short bullet.
Before modeling this in QuickLoad, I measured the actual length of a handful of SmallBall bullets.
Then I tried QL models using several bullets that were similar to the SmallBall
and adjusted the model by changing the bullet length to the actual measured value.
The pressure calculations showed around 32K psi.
I backed off quite a bit and worked up slowly.
Be Safe and Have fun !
-steve
The brass does not show signs of excessive pressure.
The edges of the primers are rounded.
Operation in 2 different guns is normal.
The 9x19 is a small case, so it is quite sensitive to differences in loading components.
The MBC SmallBall bullet is very blunt and so the 9x19 loads need to have a short OAL, especially in a tight gun like a CZ.
A short OAL with a "normal" bullet will reduce the case capacity and can dramatically increase the max pressure.
Caution is definitely in order !
In addition to being blunt, the MBC SmallBall is also a short bullet.
Before modeling this in QuickLoad, I measured the actual length of a handful of SmallBall bullets.
Then I tried QL models using several bullets that were similar to the SmallBall
and adjusted the model by changing the bullet length to the actual measured value.
The pressure calculations showed around 32K psi.
I backed off quite a bit and worked up slowly.
Be Safe and Have fun !
-steve
greyling22
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I'm running around 3.?(I can't remember the exact amount right now offhand) grains of red dot in mine. works fine for me, but I'm just shooting steel plates.
here's a thread about 124 grn cast 9mm.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=469233
here's a thread about 124 grn cast 9mm.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=469233
Tom609
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125 grain Missouri Bullet Co. LRN over 3.5 grains of Bullseye.
Tacoma
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Careful!
4.5 gr of clays/700-x is 35%+ over max published load from Hodgdon's web sight! Be sure to check reloading manuals and data prior to starting ANY load.
Personally, I like 3.3 gr of clays under a 115gr LRN but move to a slower powder (W231) for heavier (125, 130 and 147 gr) bullets.
Pathfinder1
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I know this thread is ancient, but I have 1000 of MBC small ball (LRN), and 4lbs of W231 and I can't find any load data for this powder or HP38 which is the same powder. Any help is appreciated. I've been all over the internet. Any help appreciated. Pathfinder1
zxcvbob
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My old Winchester load book (15th Edition, 1997) says 3.3 grains for a starting load, 4.0 max. That seems conservative, but it'll depend a lot on the seating depth.
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