jcwit
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Reloading only costs less if your time is = to $0.
You can honestly claim to put a dollar amount on every minute you live?
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Reloading only costs less if your time is = to $0.
The cost for my equipment to load .223 and 9mm costs $1910 shipped from brianenos.com
edit - Why is it that Rand-heads like to argue so much? What on earth is an avowed non-reloader doing in a forum set up to help reloaders learn the reloading hobby, anyway?
Please do not get me wrong. I am not arguing against reloading. I will without a doubt one day make the transition. I am almost 100% sure of it but I really think that these types of cost arguements do not hold up if you do a real analysis. They always skew the numbers in order to make their arguement. It is circular reasoning. The conclusion must follow from the premises not the other way around.
And when the idiot that took the "oil changing class" and strips your drain bolt. or crunchs your oil filter and puts a screwdriver through it, yet still fills the car up with oil then the place says no we didn't do that. i guess my 20 minutes changing the oil is worth it. you wouldn't take your car in if the oil, gas, air in tires, or winsheld washer fluid was low.Thanks for the primer econ/accounting. I bow to your area of expertise. I am just a simply small businesman and an accounting and econ hack at best. LOL
I will still stand by my statement that the OP is skewing the numbers, his prices for loaded ammo are inflated, and he is not accounting or considering the true costs of associated with reloading.
This is nothing but a strawman arguement. You are attempting to exaggerated a caricatured version of my arguement that one can place a $$ value on free time. You have attempted to change the dicussion to if you have to pay for services then you cannot have time to shoot or post here. I stated clearly that there is not a cost when one enjoys the task which takes up their free time. For some that enjoyable task is reloading. For many others it is teadious and mind numbing chore. To answer your exaggerated question yes posting here costs me some degree of productivity and therefore $$$ one way or another. My wife and I have considered this concept more than once. LOL What you have done by misrepresenting my arguement is the definition of a strawman arguement which is a fallacy.
You have attempted to argue that there is no value to free time by stating:
I disagree. Take the example someone gave of changing your own oil. It might take you a hour of free time to complete this task. You can have it done for $50 $20 of which is labor the rest is parts which you would have had to pay for anyway. When I choose to pay to have my oil changed instead of spending the hour to do it myself I have assigned a $$ value to my hour of free time. That hour is worth $20 to me. It might not be worth $20 to you but it still has a value which I can justify and I have produced nothing that someone wants to buy and I have not agreed to work for anyone. This does not mean I have no free time to spend on things I want to do like shooting or typing here. If you would like to challenge that assertion I am all ears.
In case you didn't know it I am a philosophy major and a student of logic... LOL
Yeah, I read it. But a thread full of silly attempts to justify why it's a poor use of time capped off with the comment - "sit like a monkey and hand press out ammo" weakens the claim that you aren't against reloading.
Just admit you have no desire for the activity and be done with it.
Rellascout is making... ZERO sense.
I paid about 500 bucks for my Hornady LNL reloading system, I can reload at least 300 rounds per hour on the thing, I cant imagine anyone making a "Time Cost" argument against it.
I would never go back to paying thru the nose for ammo, and I know of no one who does who is a serious shooter.
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I can reload at least 300 rounds per hour on the thing
A 550B is only $430? The other items purchased should not have cost another $1480?
Some people just need to have the best of the best to start out with. I spent about $500 including casting equipment to get started.
My ammo shoots as good as if I spent $2000 I am sure.
Some people just need to have the best of the best to start out with. I spent about $500 including casting equipment to get started.
My ammo shoots as good as if I spent $2000 I am sure.
And rest assured that when you need it, it will be worth your time to reload some rounds. A rainy day with nothing better to do is bound to happen, sooner or later.
Mayhap thats why they have the funds they have, suppose?
All I have to say is HOLY COW!! I post up an example of how reload can pay for itself, only in terms of the equipment, even shooting the two cheapest (per retail prices) reloadable calibers, and it turns into Econ 101
Yep $1910 all together for the press,trimmer,caliber conversion kits,dies,tumbler,media seperator,calipers,scale,Super Swage, extra toolts heads and powder measure,etc. etcWhy did it cost so much? Were the prices when you bought yours higher?
A 550B is only $430? The other items purchased should not have cost another $1480?