silicosys4
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So here's what happened. My friend came up to me at work and told me that he had a friend with a rare pistol that was for sale, and he might buy it. We researched it and found it was an FN 5.7 IOM, a fairly rare gun and worth somewhere north of $1k. I told my buddy for the price and ammo availability he should pass, and he agreed. He told me his buddy had bought it the day before from an old friend that he knew but hadn't talked to since cleaning up his life, and wanted to sell it because ammo was too expensive and nowhere to be found. He had talked to a local gun shop about trading, and based on his description the LGS offered him a great trade if he came in and traded it off. Since we had talked about my friend buying it, That day I had called the local PD, and stated that I was looking at buying a pistol from a private party and wanted to run the numbers to know it was legit before I even put money down. I gave the PD records person the serial # over the phone, they ran it, and said "no, there are no criminal activities or records concerning that gun, it is fine to purchase".
Heres where it gets really wierd. My buddy tells his friend with the pistol that "the numbers are good, the gun is clean" (Personally I wouldn't have bought it without knowing that first.)
So the dude with the gun goes into the LGS that had made him the offer. They ran the numbers, put the gun behind the counter, and they started haggling over trades, the LGS shop owner was killing time as it turned out... Five minutes later the shop was surrounded by police, guns drawn, and my buddy's buddy is now in jail with a class B felony charge for posession and trafficking in stolen guns. Turns out that the gun had been stolen at gunpoint from a police officer. Bad times.
Now, In different circumstances this could have been me. The local PD straight up lied to me about the gun being stolen, so that he would try and make a sale, so they could get the gun back.... and they would have lied to me, and I would have bought a stolen gun thinking it was legit. Maybe I would have tried to trade at a gunshop someday, had the numbers run, and be in jail myself....maybe months or years after making the call to the PD about the #'s....so no records to show I made the inquiry. Is this entrapment? I put this in the scam section because I truly believe this is a scam perpetrated by the local PD, for the purpose of retreiving stolen property, without regard for legitimate, law abiding citizens that try and follow the law and get caught up in it. No doubt the guy will be charged and will be unable to vote or own firearms for life, owe the govt. large fines, and be labeled a felon for life.
Heres where it gets really wierd. My buddy tells his friend with the pistol that "the numbers are good, the gun is clean" (Personally I wouldn't have bought it without knowing that first.)
So the dude with the gun goes into the LGS that had made him the offer. They ran the numbers, put the gun behind the counter, and they started haggling over trades, the LGS shop owner was killing time as it turned out... Five minutes later the shop was surrounded by police, guns drawn, and my buddy's buddy is now in jail with a class B felony charge for posession and trafficking in stolen guns. Turns out that the gun had been stolen at gunpoint from a police officer. Bad times.
Now, In different circumstances this could have been me. The local PD straight up lied to me about the gun being stolen, so that he would try and make a sale, so they could get the gun back.... and they would have lied to me, and I would have bought a stolen gun thinking it was legit. Maybe I would have tried to trade at a gunshop someday, had the numbers run, and be in jail myself....maybe months or years after making the call to the PD about the #'s....so no records to show I made the inquiry. Is this entrapment? I put this in the scam section because I truly believe this is a scam perpetrated by the local PD, for the purpose of retreiving stolen property, without regard for legitimate, law abiding citizens that try and follow the law and get caught up in it. No doubt the guy will be charged and will be unable to vote or own firearms for life, owe the govt. large fines, and be labeled a felon for life.
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