Local radio commentator detained at pro-illegal immigration rally

[centac]

Again with the specious argument - where is the evidence that these so called "monkeys" are illegals, or do we just swoop em up cause they are brown skinned? Whats' your probable cause, they are in a group so they must be illegals? Where is the due process, or are the "monkeys" not as equal as the rest of us animals?

Lack of ID is not sufficient grounds for deportation, and there is a process for a hearing in front of either a US magistrate or a INS/ICE screener for illegals who want to contest.

Like it or not, and apparently you do when it works to your advantage, due process applies.

 

[2nd Amendment]

*sigh*

You're just determined to blur the topic, aren't you?

Lack of ID is not grounds for deportation but it is grounds, with other causes, for arrest and it does not require a jury trial or "conviction" of the sort we were talking about in the other thread you chose to mention here. Totally different issues and procedures.

Meanwhile the topic was not about swooping in to arrest everybody present. The topic is why ICE makes so little effort to even be present when the likelihood is high criminals will certainly be present. A good side issue is the abuse this group can heap upon someone who disagrees with them, apparently according to you under the guise of "free speech".

A bit more personal and less legalistic: No, they aren't equal to us. they are not Citizens, they are criminals and they need packed back where they came from, period...once we know for certain they are illegals which is fairly easy to prove or disprove. Be certain to note that last qualification there, which is the difference between due process and the stealing from Citizens discussed elsewhere...

 

[Norton]

How many out of the total population here have been "harassed". C'mon, give me a simple percentage = 90? 50? 25? Lower? Higher? It has to be astronomically high given the vitriol. Who among you has had your door kicked in, let's hear a couple hundred first person accounts..........Not what you heard happened to Uncle Fred's first cousin's ex-wife's son-in-law.

I don't have to have been a first hand witness or a victim to recognize that the BATFE can be a dangerously out of control organization.

I've never had my house broken into, or known someone who has...yet I lock my doors at night.

I've never been car jacked or known someone who has...but I lock my car doors and keep a car's length between me and the next car when at a stop light.

Anyway, weren't we talking about a bunch of criminal aliens demanding that they be given the same privileges as law-abiding citizens and how a lawful citizen was violently prevented from attending an event on public property?

 

[nico]

centac, why is it that you and others who are in favor of illegal immigration can't actually discuss the issue? The strawmen you've posed have nothing to do with the original subject of this thread. If you actually want to argue that illegal aliens should be given driver's licenses and that US citizens who have done nothing wrong should be assaulted for attempting to enter public demonstrations on public property, then do so. Otherwise, please find another thread to troll as I'd like to keep this one open.

 

[centac]

Well I guess you told me.....

The reactionary histrionics about illegal immigration is founded on pure fear and discrimination. America is better than y'all deserve. Hunker in your bunker and try to forget that most all of us are the decendents of illegals and outcasts.

And as for the "assault", it was the result of a pathetic goad. Show up at my place in a NAMBLA t-shirt and see what happens. How come your supposed vic was entitled to be there, but the other attendees should have been arrested? 'Cause they are "monkeys?"

Y'all are sad little people.

 

[2nd Amendment]

The reactionary histrionics about illegal immigration is founded on pure fear and discrimination.

Please elucidate in detail or retract the slur.

America is better than y'all deserve.

Perhaps so. Whether that possible fact long endures or not rather depends on whether we can stem the flood of criminals entering our nation, doesn't it?

Hunker in your bunker and try to forget that most all of us are the decendents of illegals and outcasts.

Please explain in detail what this has to do with current illegal invaders entering our nation against its laws and largely for virtue of our current social programs? 'cause, for the life of me, I just can't see a relationship here...

 

[Sindawe]

Y'all are sad little people.

A word to the wise for ya centac, insulting those who do not agree with you is NOT a winning strategy for online discussion.

Show up at my place in a NAMBLA t-shirt and see what happens. How come your supposed vic was entitled to be there, but the other attendees should have been arrested? 'Cause they are "monkeys?"

Yes, if I were show up at your place (your home) wearing a NAMBLA t-shirt, I would likely be quite foolish to expect a warm welcome. However, the event here took place on Public grounds, NOT private.

 

[nico]

Show up at my place in a NAMBLA t-shirt and see what happens. How come your supposed vic was entitled to be there, but the other attendees should have been arrested? 'Cause they are "monkeys?"

yet another ridiculous strawman. I guess that means you're not willing to engage in a reasonable, intelligent discussion huh?

 

[2nd Amendment]

Just a note, he added that NAMBLA para after I had posted, though no "Edited by..." shows up. I just refuse to dignify another strawman by going back and replying to it.

 

[Waitone]

HEY MODERATOR!

How 'bout killin' this thread. It has run its course.

 

[Gung-Ho]

How many out of the total population here have been "harassed". C'mon, give me a simple percentage = 90? 50? 25? Lower? Higher? It has to be astronomically high given the vitriol.

One would be too many. But I guess a FEW cats stomped, and pregnant wives pushed to the ground, is OK with you. What are you anyway, one of the Jack Booted Thugs?

 

[Blackburn]

AUGH. This topic deserves a do-over. Seriously. Maybe a mod could strip out the troublemaking posts and keep it on track? It sucks that such a good post got hijacked.

 

[DRZinn]

Nice ethnic slur.

Yeah, you're right, dude. That comment had nothing at all to do with the behavior of the people at the rally, and everything to do with their skin color.

 

[Norton]

The reactionary histrionics about illegal immigration is founded on pure fear and discrimination. America is better than y'all deserve. Hunker in your bunker and try to forget that most all of us are the decendents of illegals and outcasts.

Oh, I see now......an American citizen with legal press credentials is forcefully barred from entering an event held on public property and that's freedom of speech but when someone condemns criminal aliens for having a rally to advocate allowing more criminal acts, that's racist?


Come on everyone....you know the words:

"Troll, troll, troll your boat......gently down the stream"

 

[nico]

Update: MoCo county police are now considering pressing charges against Michael for "inciting a riot."

 

[JohnBT]

"I arrived at Richard Montgomery High School"

I'm not getting involved in this discussion even though I graduated from RMHS in 1968. I will admit that Montgomery County has always been an interesting place to live.

John

 

[Norton]

Update: MoCo county police are now considering pressing charges against Michael for "inciting a riot."

Great...so anything that doesn't suit the police will now be considered inciteful....

 

[spartacus2002]

For those of you arguing with centac: DON'T FEED THE TROLL!

 

[nico]

another update:

TUESDAY, MAY 10, 2005

Welcome Rabble Rousers! Our pal Alan Colmes has given us all a new title, a new epithet, an honorific label we can wear with pride: "Rabbel Rousers!" I'm proud to be one, and I'm thrilled that you're logged on to www.michaelgraham.com, your new home for rabble-rousing in Washington, DC and across the internet.

DOUG DUNCAN BACKS DOWN! As promised on my radio show, I spent about half an hour at the corner of Wisconsin and Western, waiting for a Montgomery County police officer to show up and slap on the cuffs. A gang of 630 WMAL rabble rousers were there as well, to welcome the poor cops stuck with the duty of carrying out MoCo's nonsensical policies.

When no cops showed up, I called the MoCo Police Department to make sure they weren't running late. What happened? After telling my WMAL boss "Mister Big" that they were considering filing charges against me, the county completely backed down! They denied what was in the paper this morning and they denied that discussing a charge of "inciting to riot" was in any way a discussion about arresting me!

RABBLE ROUSERS 1, MoCo 0.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE JUST "UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS," RIGHT? SO IF I ESCAPE FROM THE MOCO JAIL, WILL I JUST BE ON AN "UNAUTHORIZED RELEASE?" According to Harry Jaffe in this morning's DC Examiner, Montgomery County police are considering filing charges against me because of my actions at the pro-illegal immigration rally.

Jaffe reports: Lt. Eric Burnett told Graham's boss, WMAL president Chris Berry, that police were planning to "file a complaint against Graham."

I asked Burnett about the charges. Failure to shut up?

"Graham was acting unprofessional as a reporter," Burnett said.

Arrested for acting "unprofessional as a reporter?" If only Dan Rather were a resident of Montgomery County. He'd be eating off a tin plate for the rest of his life.

lol something makes me think he wanted to be arrested today. I listen to his show on a semi-regular basis and I bet he'd love to have something like to use to drag Douncan through the dirt

 

[Cool Hand Luke 22:36]

The reactionary histrionics about illegal immigration is founded on pure fear and discrimination. America is better than y'all deserve. Hunker in your bunker and try to forget that most all of us are the decendents of illegals and outcasts.

Too true. You can tell because 99% of the people stopped from wading across the Rio Grande by the Border Patrol are hispanic. It's obvious racial profiling.

 

[Norton]

Too true. You can tell because 99% of the people stopped from wading across the Rio Grande by the Border Patrol are hispanic. It's obvious racial profiling.

Heh, heh.....so true