Lock free S&W 642's on the way

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It is not an issue if the ILS is going to lock up or not. I think it is ugly and very BIG BROTHER. I do not worry about it, I just will not buy one with it. It was an answer to a question that I did not ask.

I have a couple of SA 1911's with the mainspring lock. It does not bother me, but if it did I can change the MS and get rid of it.

Smith and Wesson has / had other options instead of an internal lock. They choose to use it, I choose not to buy handguns with locks that ugly up the end product.

I will continue to buy S&W revolvers, just non with a lock. I have already started to save my nickles and dimes to purchase a new M40...without a lock.
 
As of late last night (10-11pm) RSR was showing 71 no lock 37's in stock and 1140 of the no lock 642's.
 
I'm surprised there aren't more threads and tutorials about removing the lock yourself. From the few posts I have seen on the S&W forum, it doesn't look hard. I would think there would be a gunsmith demand for it, the perception of some kind of liability issue is a bit overblown I think. I just bought a no lock 642 and am thinking about removing the lock on my other 642 and leaving the no lock in the box unfired since it appears there are no plans to sell revolvers without the locks as standard production.

Speaking of liability, I can only imagine the suit if a locked up snubbie revolver was found on the ground beside a dead off duty police officer.

Somebody explain the rationale, I still don't get it. There are other ways that the gun could be lockable or a safety mechanism added(note the new lemon squeezer replicas do not have the lock).
 
Hope people keep buying these no-lock 642s! I've got mine on the way.

Best news from S&W in ages.

My objection to the stupid locks is in direct proportion to (1) whether the revolver in question is a self-defense gun and (2) the recoil-to-weight ratio. Thus, I don't greatly mind the lock on my 617 -- it's a practice and target gun (not a potential lifesaver); it's got a steel frame; it has almost no recoil.

But I distrust the lock on a lightweight, centerfire CCW revolver like the .38+P Airweights. And so this'll be my first (new) S&W carry piece since they added the locks.
 
Anybody know if they have 37-2s still available?
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Brad at DiscountGunDealer.com had 10 coming in a week or so ago and may still have some. Give him a shout.

About the stupic lock..., why did they make it so that when the lock spring fails the gun automatically (uh oh, run away fast, an automatic gun!!!) goes into the locked position? Why not design it to fail in the unlocked, usable firearm position?

Things that make you avoid lock'd smiths with a passion.

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I still find it hard to believe that they had that many frames laying around for ten years, but I guess anything's possible.
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outerlimit,
I agree but who knows. I could believe they had all the M37's they sold in 2005 and this year but 4,000 M642's??? That's a hard one to swallow. I truly hope they are "testing the waters" but don't want to let on right now. Again, who knows?
 
Yeah, 4,000 J-frames would represent $1 million or more in gross revenues for S&W, so I find the official explanation a little hard to believe too. But I'm hardly an expert on the firearms business.

Like y'all, I hope they're testing the waters to gauge the demand for more no-lock revolvers. Bring 'em on, S&W!
 
RSR Group still has them available but your Gun Shop will have to order it from them because you don't sell to the public.

Top Gun Supply also has them in stock and you can order one yourself but you will still need to have it sent to an FFL. They are charging $419 + $18 S&H. That's not bad unless your dealer is going to charge you $25 to do the transfer. Your dealer can order one from RSR Group for $359 plus his markup.

BTW, RSR Group not only had M642 no-locks in stock, they also have M442 no-locks in stock too if you would rather buy it in black.
 
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