Long Range Precision/Sniper Rifle

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I am currently looking into getting a nice .308Win to use as a Long Range Precision/Sniper Rifle. I know there are a ton of options out there. However, I am really looking at the Remington 700 SPS Tactical, Remington 700 XCR Tactical Long Range, Remington 700 Police, and Remington 700 LTR.

How do all these various models stack up against each other? I am most interested in the triggers as I am not sure what kind of trigger each model has and the benefits of one trigger over another.

If you have any other suggestions, please let me know. Thanks.
 
700P is close to $1K and the 5R Milspec is slightly over $1K. If I had to choose, I'll pick the latter.

Also, are you planning to put suppressors in the future? If yes, getting one with a suppressor-ready barrel should be considered.

If you plan to get the SPS Tactical, you may want to consider upgrading the stock. Note that the shorter barrel will lower the velocity.
 
I probably won't be adding a suppressor to it. At least I don't have any plans to at the time. I realize that the SPS Tactical has only a 20" barrel and the others are 26" so some FPS will be lost with the shorter barrel.

From my observations, most features on the rifles are about the same with the exception of the stocks and triggers. I want one with a really crisp and light trigger, if possible. I am a good shot. I can get rifles with bad triggers to be nail drivers, but I want this one to have the inherent precision to be a tack driver. Thanks.
 
While out of the box they shoot good(i have the SPS Tactical AAC-SD), are you wanting something for just targets or competition? I ask simply because the SPS takes a tad bit of work to free up the Hogue stock to avoid contact on a bipod or benchrest. They are usually a sub MOA rifle with an occasional stray. If you are wanting a serious competition rifle a custom built action and barrel are not a must but make things alot easier. What type of ranges are you looking for? A stock 700 in .308 will reach out there really good. There are a few places that sell an M40 version(customized just as Quantico does). While they are considerably more, so is the performance.

Most 700's have the X-Mark Pro trigger, which is decent but needs to be replaced if long range is what you are shooting for(no pun intended).
 
Do you happen to have a link to where I can find the M-40 version? I want to be able to shoot at 1000yds.
 
I was shocked to see a NIB 700P at $995 in my local store the other day. I paid about $640 for a barely used one there about 2 years ago.

The 700P has a great track record and a fantastic stock. I'd look for one used and shoot it until you become good enough to take advantage of something more expensive.

My second choice would be the LTR.
 
I had an LTR and it was a great rifle. If I was buying a rifle for your use I woe buy the R5 Milspec. Look that rifle up. It's a reay good long range shooter.
 
I'd find a 5R. The 24" barrel is a good compromise and it comes with a better stock. It will cost more out of the box, but no upgrades will be needed.
 
C-grunt is right, the R5 Milspec is honestly my favorite out the box 700. If you can drop the cash for it, it is the closest stock rifle to get you where you want to go. You can upgrade it as you outgrow it. I purchased the SPS Tactical AAC-SD only because I wanted the shorter barrel to begin with. I have trued the action and refitted the stock (previously mentioned freefloat problem). I have shot it at 650yds. It is still sub MOA with my 168gr A-Max load. But when I shoot over 800 yds, I have a 50bmg. Have you ever considered a .338 lapua? They are freaking awesome for range and accuarcy. I have heard alot of great things about the Savage, but have yet to shoot one. If you went with the lapua, the rifle itself will reach out WAY beyond that. If you have any questions please let me know or send me a message. I have been shooting long range for about ten years but am still learning everyday. I wish you were in my area, I would put you behind my SPS and my fifty, and I would get my friend to bring his benchrest 338lapua. You could see which one you were more comfortable with.if you are not dead set though, I would consider a Lapua.

Here is the Savage I was talking about

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/60958

Or

http://grabagun.com/savage-110fcp-hs-prec-338lapua-26-bl-s.html
 
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For the money, I went with Savage instead.
Excellent shooter straight out of the box with very little, if anything, needed to do as far as upgrading parts and pieces and whatever.
I like Remmys, but the Savage is just a much better overall deal for the money if you ask me.
And I've shot plenty of both.
Unless you are "strictly" wanting a Remington only, no matter what, then don't forget about some of the other brands as well.

This Savage is a shooter and a half!

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I see all of these comments about the 5R online...people act as if it's some sort of special rifle. The 5R is a good factory rifle, but it ain't all that. My Savages outshot the 5R I had. Noticed I said had....sold the 5R and never looked back. I dumped more money into that rifle that any other rifle at the time and it would not shoot better than my Savages.

I also wouldn't say the HS stock is "fantastic"...it's better than that crap stock you get on the SPS rifles, but to say it's "fantastic" is a bit of a stretch. Manners, McMillan, AICS are fantastic stocks.

If you had to have a 700 action...I say buy the less expensive SPS and upgrade the stock when funds allow.

Otherwise, I say look at Savage or Tikka.
 
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I have been looking at a long range rifle in .308 as well.

After spending the money on a Remmy or Savage, and "fixing it up", would you be better off, or have spent less money, than buying something like a Sako right off the bat?

Just curious.
 
i'd ignore the triggers that each comes supplied with and simply plan on replacing it. choose tghe rifle based on the action you want, barrel your willing to live with for a while, and which stock is best for your money...whether that is the 700p with the hs precision or a sps tactical with a bell and carlson upgrade.
 
Proven is exactly right. Choose the action and the options that you can work with. As far as the Sako, they are awesome but you need to get a TRG-22 or TRG-42 to get one that is "upgraded". So you are in the 3k range there. Sako makes cheaper rifles but they also have there downfalls. To be honest the with a long range rifle, it will not be cheap no matter which way you go. Not to get something that is going to put you on paper in a sub MOA pattern. I own Savages,Remmys, Winchesters, etc... all are good in their own rights. I personally LOVE the pre 64 Winchester actions(they just feel smoother) and the 700 Remmys. I personally love the HS stocks and the factory Hogues on the SPS, you just have to sand a little to free up the barrel. It takes 10 minutes and all you need is a dremel. If you are stuck on a .308 then by all means start with a 700, if not look into the .338 lapuas. As I said the Savages look promising. What it all boils down to, is what you prefer and what you want to spend.
 
valnar said:
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I have been looking at a long range rifle in .308 as well.

After spending the money on a Remmy or Savage, and "fixing it up", would you be better off, or have spent less money, than buying something like a Sako right off the bat?

Just curious.
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Depending on the model of Savage you get...there is really nothing to "fix up" in the first place. That's the beauty of 'em.
Mine (10FCP) already came with an excellent accu-trigger and a McMillan stock.
All I did was add an IOR scope and a Harris bipod.
I've not needed to do a single thing else.
Just sayin'.....
 
giggi, sorry man but i know your askin about remingtons but there other options outhere. like ussr and havelock posted their fns, they are right outa the box accurate. took mine out yesterday to try some heavier bullets but could only shoot 50y:(, but will make time to use a friends private land for 100
my fn tsr xp .308
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Yeah totally agree, there are ALOT better rifles than a stock 700 to get the performance you need. As these guys were saying the Savage 10FCP and the FN TSR XP are designed to do exactly what you want.
 
I know this is going in a whole 'nuther direction... but I've been looking at this CZ for a while. Sure seems like a heck of a lot of rifle for the price:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...71/products_id/32405/CZ-USA+CZ550+Varmint+308

Of course Bud's is out of stock right now but maybe somebody else has them. Anybody have any experience with this rifle? I've been tempted to try one out as a long range rifle.

Gregg
 
valnar said:
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I have been looking at a long range rifle in .308 as well.

After spending the money on a Remmy or Savage, and "fixing it up", would you be better off, or have spent less money, than buying something like a Sako right off the bat?

Just curious.
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No need to spend money on a Savage to fix it up. They offer several guns in several calibers that are more than capable at doing what the OP wants to do Right out of the box. Heck even a Stevens in .300 win mag is plenty enough gun to make a 1K yard hit. The real factor in LR shooting is the shooter. If the OP is skilled enough to shoot that distance all he really needs to do is try out several guns and see which fits or he likes the best. Any of the guns mentioned to this point are plenty good enough to make the shot.
 
I voted with my wallet & got a Savage 10 FCP. I did have to re-crown it but no big deal. The main reason I went with this is that I can do everything myself including changing out the barrel. Everyone else including Remington you're paying a smith.
 
Thinking about this in a "non-modern" way, and also not meaning to move the thread, if I want a BP long range solution similar to a mid-19th century are there other choices than the Sharps reproductions?

What's a good pace to start looking? I occasionally read about the Union sharp-shooters from the Civil War, and the whole idea astonishes me.
 
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