What is a sniper rifle....

[Funderb]

As i said before,

hunting is not contemporarily defined as sniping deer/other game.

According to modern thinking, if you shoot people with it, from a concealed place, and without real direct confrontation, it is a sniper rifle.

 

[Spiros [Risk]]

I think everyone is confusing sniping or sniper from a sniper rifle. A pistol is called a pistol because of what it can do you dont have to shoot it first before you can call it a pistol or gun. Doesnt make sence. Your trying to say if my 700 was put in a marine snipers hand than it would be a sniper rifle but if not than its only a deer gun. It would be called a sniper's sniper rifle if in marines hands but if in anyones elses it is still a sniper rifle because it is able to do the same job. Does'nt matter what your sniping paper targets or deer. A remington 700 sps in 30-06 is a sniper rifle.

 

[The Swede]

Spiros, why in all of your threads do you call people mall ninja's? Do you even know what it means? In the context you call these people mall ninja's, you absolutely have no idea. You my friend, if anyone, is the mall ninja. You are not a sniper. Therefore, your rifle is not a sniper rifle. You are not a Pro football player until you play for a pro football organization, i.e. the NFL. Understand?

 

[RancidSumo]

think everyone is confusing sniping or sniper from a sniper rifle. A pistol is called a pistol because of what it can do you dont have to shoot it first before you can call it a pistol or gun. Doesnt make sence. Your trying to say if my 700 was put in a marine snipers hand than it would be a sniper rifle but if not than its only a deer gun. It would be called a sniper's sniper rifle if in marines hands but if in anyones elses it is still a sniper rifle because it is able to do the same job. Does'nt matter what your sniping paper targets or deer. A remington 700 sps in 30-06 is a sniper rifle.

That is correct. Although it would not have to be a dear gun. It could be a target rifle or some such. As to the pistol analogy, that is completely different. It would be similar if we were talking about calling it a rifle or not since that is actually what it is. It is when you start making distinctions such as "sniper" or "tactical" rifle or whatever that use becomes a deciding factor.

I think that when you come to a forum like this, especially as a new shooter, you should be open to what other people are saying. I was fairly new a year ago and know quite a bit more now (thanks a great deal to sitting back, asking questions, and actually listening to what more experienced people have to say) but am still pretty dense on many subjects. Starting off calling people mall ninjas and having an "I know everything about everything" attitude will get you no where and you will likely find this a not as friendly of a place as it would be otherwise.

 

[gimposaurus]

Sniper rifle describes the use of the rifle,

as you are using it to shoot targets,



target rifle is a better description

 

[Hoppy590]

I believe the title of the thread was "What is a sniper rifle?" Not what defines a sniper or who is a sniper

you need to define what a sniper is. in the military world, a sniper is very broad definition. so anyone who "snipes" is a "Sniper" and the weapon they use is a "Sniper rifle". no requirements for distance or accuracy.

in the world of movies and video games a sniper is taking 1000 plus shots into the cockpit of a speeding mig.


you pick what definition you want to use

 

[Spiros [Risk]]

Therefore, your rifle is not a sniper rifle. You are not a Pro football player until you play for a pro football organization, i.e. the NFL. Understand?

I understand its you that does'nt. To use your example to explain. See the football is still called a football. It doesnt have to be used in a football game by pro football players before it gets it's name.

 

[gimposaurus]

your rifle is still a rifle.



but it's not a ****ing sniper rifle

 

[The Swede]

See the football is still called a football. It doesnt have to be used in a football game by pro football players before it gets it's name.

Ok I'm lost, don't understand your correlation.

 

[Spiros [Risk]]

O and I did'nt call everyone a mall-ninja just 2 people because of what the messaged me and posted on my thread. I do know what it means. However, even if I did'nt I still think its funny.Dont get mad its just a forum. Now if you would please stop attacking me and answer the thread or use your freedom to x off the screen or read something else.

 

[RancidSumo]

Spiros, you are wrong. Just accept that and go have fun shooting your TARGET rifle. Just because it isn't a "sniper rifle" won't make it less fun to shoot. Also, doesn't has the ' before the T and after the N.

 

[Spiros [Risk]]

Ok I'm lost, don't understand your correlation.

Just like a football is called a football without being used by a pro. Then a sniper rifle is called a sniper rifle without being used by a pro. The rifle its self is what its is a rifle. Capable of sniping so I call it a sniper rifle. I snipe paper targets.

 

[Spiros [Risk]]

Rancid if your going to correct my spelling then you might want to spell target right....

TRAGET

 

[RancidSumo]

^^^ A football is a football either way just like a rifle is a rifle either way. Its use starts to make a difference when distinctions start to be made. See post #54, we already covered this. As to my spelling of target, that was a typing mistake. I wouldn't have said anything about your spelling if it wasn't such an obvious mistake that had been made multiple times.

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

I think the difficult lies in that "sniper rifles" are rifles used by a person in a certain activity. That's like saying your shotgun is only a "duck shotgun." Well actually it's just a shotgun. Just cause you only hunt ducks with it doesn't mean it's a "duck shotgun." So the term "precision rifle" is more than apt. You could even say there is no such thing a "sniper rifle." As it is just a rifle used for killing or disabling humans with precision fire. But you can use it to hunt deer as well, or punch holes in paper.

Just as much shotgun for me is a HD shotgun, for someone else it could be a hunting shotgun, or a clay shotgun. But it's just a shotgun.

Unless you're engaging humans with precision fire, or training to do so, you're rifle is not a sniper rifle.

 

[Funderb]

Point here is spiros, you are not a sniper. your rifle, therefore, is just a rifle.

I can shoot my rifles well, and I keep up to a pretty high standard when I shoot because it is fun. Because I do this I do not call myself a sniper, nor do I call any of my rifles "sniper rifles". Some of which some are platforms for actual battle proven sniper systems, such as my scoped mauser, it is still just a rifle.

Just as your 700, though featured in the US military as a sniper system component, is not a sniper rifle.

 

[kcshooter]

Consider the term "sniper" to be the user's occupation or duty. For good or bad, he shoots human or strategic targets from cover and distance.

If he has a refrigerator, it's a sniper's refrigerator. If he has a rifle, it's a sniper's rifle.

I have a remington 700. I'm not a sniper. Therefore, it's not a sniper's rifle. It is a highly accurate precision target rifle at best. I just call mine a gun.

To run around claiming to have a sniper rifle will peg you as a nutjob to the anti's and as a poser to true gunfolk. I'm not trying to bash you, just let you know how it is.

 

[RedLion]

Excuse me sir, can I see that gun, the fourth from the left?- customer

What you mean the sniper rifle?- clerk

No, the EBR behind the assault rifle.-customer

What?? you mean the Battle Rifle, the one with the High cap mags?-clerk

High cap mags? thats a normal cap mag unlike the one in that SBR over there?-customer

Now wait a minute, I know what I got and that sir is an automatic pistol! - clerk

What?? its a machine gun?? how can you sell it if its brand new? - customer

no, its not a machine gun like that AK in the corner. - second customer

no sir, thats an RPD - clerk

what, aren't those rocket launchers - first customer

no, RPG.. Rocket propelled grenade, its a grenade launcher - second customer

oh,.... well can I just see the black rifle sitting fourth from the left - first customer

well sure, but my left or your left? - clerk

 

[Funderb]

^^^^^^^^

who's on first?

 

[Drusagas]

Definition of Sniper = Carlos Hathcock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Hathcock

 

[Spiros [Risk]]

Thanks for sheding light. I think I understand that you guys are mad because I called my rifle a sniper rifle instead of just a rifle. I call every rifle capable of shooting long range with accuracy with enough force. Like a .30-06. .308 .50 cal. rem 700. m82a1. Hey but thats just me. Ima call it a sniper rifle because thats what Im used to calling it.

 

[HB]

Honestly, you are doing a lot of the attacking as most of the people are answering the original question.

In Iraq, the vast majority of "snipers" are armed with run of the mill AK's and are still hitting people (or at least giving them some excitement :banghead

I think the use of the rifle dictates it's name. It is a pretty common theme in the shooting world
I'm going to have to agree with the majority here and say:

Rifle used to shoot deer=Deer/Hunting rifle
Rifle used to shoot targets=Target Rifle
Rifle used to shoot squirrels=Squirrel rifle
Heavy Long-barreled Shotgun=Duck Gun
Rifle used to snipe=Sniper rifle

Although you have a nice accurate rifle, I hope is not a sniper rifle.

HB

 

[Funderb]

Fair enough!

to each his own as they say.


let's hope this be the end of it then.

 

[highorder]

I think I understand that you guys are mad because I called my rifle a sniper rifle instead of just a rifle. I call every rifle capable of shooting long range with accuracy with enough force. Like a .30-06. .308 .50 cal. rem 700. m82a1.

No love for the 6.5-.284? .257 Ackley? .358 Winchester?

 

[kcshooter]

I call every rifle capable of shooting long range with accuracy with enough force. Like a .30-06. .308 .50 cal. rem 700. m82a1

In Bosnia, there have been people successfully using 22lr to snipe. So what do you call a 10/22?