looking for a cheap/good side by side or over and under

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i been thinking about buying a double barrel of some kind because i think the look of one is classic. but every time i find one its always over 400$ and is almost always an over and under.i dont mind buying an over and under but i prefer the side by side.

i would like someone to point me in the right direction for a cheap and reliable side by side or over and under within the price range of 350$ or less


much thanks
 
If you are looking for a new SxS, I think the only two that are close to that price range are the Stoeger and the Russian Remington's made by Baikal. They may have crept over that price point though. I don't have any personal experience with either of these guns, but do a search and there are plenty of threads about them.

Used, you can likely find a Stevens 311 for that amount. It's a solid American working class double. I'm sure there are others out there, and someone will come along with more advice.
 
I will vouch for either the Stevens 311 or a Stoeger Uplander in side by sides. I am talking the plain old double trigger Uplander, not the single trigger ejector model or the two barrel sets. I had a couple of 311s many years ago and never had a hint of a problem, and I just sold a Stoeger 20 that was a good performer as well.
 
If you want a subgauge you might as well be prerared to fork out the dough. 20 ga double command a premium. In 12 gauge though get a Stevens 311 as mentioned above. Ive had several and all have worked out great. Long length of pull though around 15 inches from fron trigger if in unmodified guise.
 
I have a Baikal 28 ga SXS I bought used for $350 (new price $459), and a Stevens 311 in 20 ga (marked Western Field, sold by Wards) that I paid $150 for back in the late 80's.

Both are decent guns, but the Stevens is far nicer than the Baikal. The little Russian gun points and shoots like pointing your finger, but the action is stiff, and has remained that way through several hundred rounds.
 
Im kind of a shotgun snob and I tend to look down on anything lower in cost bc I firmly believe you get what you pay for.

Nonetheless I have used many inexpensive doubles (hence why im a shotgun snob) and really cannot vouch for any but the Stevens 311. I had a Baikal job literally fall apart in my hands as I was gunning for woodcock. I had some Turkish thing break in half as I broke it open. One spanish gun had the barrels so crapily regulated I had to memorize which barrrel shot to what point at what range (thank god for double triggers).

I prefer SxSs with double triggers and the Stevens is one of the few that have them without paying out the big bucks. You can even get 311s in 20ga for reasonable prices if you look hard enough. Probably the only viable option for someone wanting a 410 double that has a lick of quality and wont completely break the bank.
 
Remington imports a nice looking, solid SxS that goes by the name SPR 210/220. I have not shot one in the 200 series, but the 100 series of single shots is delightful for grouse hunting. I would expect the quality of the 200s to be the same. The ejectors on the 100 had no problems, and the break action was crisp and solid. Patterned well too.

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/SPR_models/SPR210_side-by-side.asp
 
i was looking at the stoeger and i liked it has anyone had problems with them?
 
a guy brought a Yildiz O/U by the office friday. it was pretty nice. said he got it at academy for about 400. I looked them up. positive reviews, and they make a side by side. Light weight and nice walnut.
 
I don't think there is such a thing as a good cheap double barrel shotgun. I've seem some of the guns mentioned in this thread at the skeet range and I haven't been too impressed. Having said that I would go with the Stevens 311 in a SxS.

Is your price point fixed in stone? If you could afford it a used Browing Citori in field grade configuration would give you a lifetime of trouble free service. To each his own, but I would rather sell a couple of guns or wait until I had enough money to by a high quality O/U rather than something cheaper that won't last as long.
 
+1 for the yildiz I bought one in 12 gauge a year ago as a truck gun for the farm, I have been very impressed with it.
 
"You can even get 311s in 20ga for reasonable prices if you look hard enough."

I saw one at the gun show yesterday. Only $995. :eek: And it wasn't a nice clean 98% gun either.

JT
 
I bought an older Stevens 5100 20ga SxS for less than $200 a couple of weeks ago via a FTF deal with a THR forum member. It needed new trigger guard screws and the receiver's case coloring is pretty much gone,but other than that it's in decent shape.

About nine months ago, I bought an Aya SxS 12ga from a local shop for $275. It was a Sears, Roebuck shotgun, but it's in decent shape and shoots well. It's fairly pretty, and I fancy this one.

I bought a NIB Stoeger Uplander about six months ago. That one cost me $350. It's OK, but it's not as nice as the Aya. The forearm is a bit rattly, the extractor channel in the monoblock needed work to get the shotgun to break open without undue force (the extractor was sticking due to burrs in the channel), the buttstock rattled loose within a case of shells, and the chambers needed polishing to be able to handle the cheap Winchester bulk pack ammo. Of the three, the Stoeger is clearly the lesser.
 
check out the 311s on gunjoker and you will see the 12ga sell for around 2-300 and teh 20s around 3-400 and the 410s around 4-500
 
I'm a shotgun noob, too, but I recently acquired a Stoeger Condor Supreme in 12 gauge. I shot some skeet with it this last weekend - I didn't hit much but I had a hell of a lot of fun. The Stoeger shouldered well for me and felt natural swinging it around during those dam* doubles. It was light enough that I didn't tire from an afternoon of shooting but heavy enough to dampen recoil (allbeit I was shooting light target loads). She's tight as all get out but should loosen up with a little more shooting (I hope).

Doesn't stand up to my dad's Citori but it fits the bill for a good first gun.
 
What is the intended use of this shotgun? If you are going to shoot clays, I recommend saving a lot more for a quality doubles gun, or just get an 870, which is perfectly serviceable for all the clays games if you get the 26" barrel with the removable RemChoke system.

Cameron
 
I bought a Stevens 311 20 gauge recently at my local gun shop in great condition for $300. It was priced at $349 but I never pay tag price for a used gun. I have shot it quite a bit and it is great.
 
I've been shooting a Stoeger Coach Gun (just an Uplander with 20" barrel) in Cowboy Action Shooting for the last 4 years. If you haven't seen CAS, you'd be surprised at the abuse these guns get, actions being slammed open and shut as fast as you can force them, slammed back down onto racks and tables in the name of speed. And between matches, mine gets 5 times more abuse through dryfire practice. I can't imagine a more stressful application for a shotgun outside of the military.

When I first got it, I polished out a couple burrs, and ever since it's run completely flawlessly and shows no sign of weakness. Out of the box, the chambers were smooth enough that spent shells of all types slide out with a flick of the wrist (these guns have extractors, not ejectors.)

This gun won't win any fit & finish awards, but dangit, it just plain works. If it got stolen, I wouldn't bother considering any other option. I'd go buy another one.
 
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