Looking for a decent, no-frills sword

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I have several blades, all combat worthy, and a couple of wall hangars. What I've learned (and I took blacksmithing in college for a year):

Good swords--real swords--cost money. Bar none.

Windlass steelcrafts' products are very nice. Mount them on the wall and dust 'em off, show 'em to your friends. Make lightsaber sounds as you swing them through the air--but don't dare hit anything. They'll bendy/breaky.

Museum Replicas--prettier! You can take 'em off the wall, and wear 'em at renn faires! The good thing about renn faires is that you'll be peace-bonded (which means they tie your sword to it's scabbard and you can't draw it), and you won't make it all bendy/breaky when you swing it.

Paul Chen--I have two of their rapier, both scored off ebay. They don't look as good as "dressier" Windlass rapiers, but the Chen steel 'sings' better. I haven't sparred with these, nor hit anything harder than cardboard, but they seem to hold up well.

Cold Steel--I only have one Cold Steel, and it's the 1917 Cutlass. I also have an original issue Navy 1917 Cutlass. The Cold Steel is a better product, and a fantastic (little) fighting blade. It is one handed only, though. I have used mine as a machete, beheaded many attacking zombies (OK, snowmen), and it's a big deal for my kids when we sacrifice the watermelon to the picnic Gods with it. Great blade, and I wouldn't hesitate to reccomend it to someone looking for a "real" sword.

When you start talking japanese blades (traditional katana and other samurai blades), you open up a whole bunch of crap. Everybody has their opinions, most based on favorite movies or on the tourist crap set that daddy brought back from PI when he was in the Navy. Get a book, learn how the blades were crafted, and understand what you're looking at. Realize that it's the blade that is important, and not any of the other hardware.

Once you've held a real blade, you'll be disgusted with some of the import stuff coming in.

Side note: You mentioned stainless steel. Stainless steel makes a good knife blade--as long as the blade stays less than about 10" long. SS does not make good long blades. High carbon steel takes more care, but makes a better weapon.

The Japanese sword is probably the best design in a man-slaughtering blade out there, but for some really beautiful stuff, get on the 'net and try to find some real (that means antique, and therefore expensive, and therefore out of our reach) rapiers or sabres, specifically old Spanish or Italian designs.

If ugly doesn't bother you, there used to be a guy on ebay--chinese feller--who got a hold of a bunch of WWII Japanese Naval Officer swords. These were one-handed cutlasses, but with the traditional Japanese curve and tanto tip. The handles were an awful brass casting, but when cleaned up, the blades were amazing. I managed to win one for $20, and then found the shipping from China was about $200...Yeah--read the small print. Lucky for me--beautifully functional, butt ugly.

Careful of old Rosicrucian or Templar ceremonial stuff. Often identified with a knight's helmet on the butt. These are ceremonial only!

If you don't mind building up a sword yourself, go to ebay and type in "Old sword blade" or "old sword". Someone is always selling a decent blade that they found in an attic, but the handle is usually rotted away, or it's slightly rusty, or it isn't "pretty". I scored my 1860 Ames that way, complete with dented handguard, for less than $100.

They're out there, but you won't find a "new" one for $20-$50 that's worth anything. You either gotta pay, or get lucky.

Good luck!
 
The Japanese sword is probably the best design in a man-slaughtering blade out there

Hm. That's a wide-open claim, there. I will agree it's great against unarmored or lightly armored foes*. Did you mean "best sword design"? Otherwise, spears beat swords, usually easily.

*and even then, there are specific strikes designed to hit the joint segments in the armor

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I just bought a sword from these guys. I won't get to see it for another month but I'll post then and let you know what it's like.

I was looking at getting one of those for myself...they have a Zatoichi sword that makes me feel all pretty
 
The HI swords and khukris are amazing, as are most of the Cold Steel offerings. My only experience with a Chen sword was through CAS Iberia, and it wasn't all that great.
 
Check out PTK's sig line - sort of puts all this to nonsense, eh? :)

But seriously, I will agree with PTK on the Cold Steel line. Owner / Pres Lynn Thompson even has produced a DVD he'll send you about his swords - Sword Proof. Bear in mind, I'm no swordsman, but I do own over a dozen of his other products, from hatchets to folders to fixed blades, and not counting some of his training DVDs. I've been desiring a couple of his swords, but really have no need for one. (Like that's ever stopped me before!)

Lynn is a student of the martial arts (not to say those others mentioned are not), and is very critical of the materials he uses. There is an annual sale out in Ventura, CA every May, so it may be worth considering going, if you're local or will be in the area.

Check out the Cold Steel website for more info. Then ebay to buy.
 
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check out ..."Ontario Knives"........a USA company, supplies combat knives to the us military.......and has a couple of short swords. I have one.called a "Black Wind".....kinda handy......
 
Ontario Knives Blackwind Katana

http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/battle-ready-ninja-swords.html

It looks like all the cheap crappy black bladed $10 wanna be ninja swords but this thing is the real freaking deal.

1095 carbon steel, and worlds apart in strength and durability.

Just rewrap the handle in some latigo leather for a better and stronger grip and you're done.

This sucker can easily chop through trees and boards as old car doors and keep coming.

Plus it sparks when you hit the concrete with it.

If you need a knife to go with it pick up a Kershaw D2 Tool Steel Outcast or a Becker Brute BK1.

That knife and sword combo will have you set for anything.
 
May have to get one of those Ontario Katana's - nice handy length (ko-katana aka chisa katana aka ninja-to length). Good price & quality.

The Wakizashi is a nice fighting tool as well - 15" in length, and 8" handle....that's enough to get a hand and a half of power on it, and it would be extremely light and fast in a fight.

Here are places that retail the Ontaria Blackwinds:

http://www.ontarioknife.com/catalogretailers.html#blackwind

Cold steel has good stuff, but overpriced, so not the best value....you can find equal quality for less price if you look around. Way less price, in the case of CS Katanas vs. Cheness Katanas.
 
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