Looking for advice on a suppressor for .22lr...

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1) Good choice on .22 for a first suppressor (I assume). They are an absolute hoot and cheap to acquire and feed.

2) Before you pick a brand/model, there are a couple questions you need to answer. They are:

A) Do I want a can that can be disassembled by the user?
.22LR is basically THE dirtiest, nastiest round produced for modern weapons. Whatever silencer you choose, it will eventually fill up with lead and carbon deposits which are extremely hard. There are only two reliable ways of removing this accumulation: bead blasting the internal components, or soaking the components/entire can in a solution of 50/50 peroxide and white vinegar for several days. Bead blasting requires a can where you can remove the baffles for cleaning. Soaking is easier with a take-down can, but you can soak the whole silencer if you get a sealed unit. Don't believe the manufacturers who say you can "clean" their .22 silencers by soaking in kroil or whatever; they are lying.

B) Do I want stainless steel, titanium, or aluminum construction?
This is where things get tricky: aluminum silencers can't really be soaked in the peroxide/vinegar dip, because it will gradually dissolve the aluminum. Anodized aluminum components can be soaked, but eventually they acquire nicks and scratches through the ano, where the solution will start to pit the base metal. Thus, the safer thing to do with aluminum components is bead-blast them for cleaning, which can only be done with take-down silencers. Therefore, if you get an aluminum silencer, I strongly recommend a take-down can and buying a small bead blasting cabinet. Otherwise, if you buy a sealed aluminum unit, you have to send them back to the manufacturer every 10-15,000 rounds for a $75-100 cleaning. Stainless, on the other hand, is totally impervious to the Dip and can be soaked for weeks with abandon. Takedown vs. Sealed doesn't matter as much with stainless, since you can soak the whole can en bloc. It's easier with a takedown can though. Titanium is hard to find, only a few companies make all-Ti silencers. I group them with stainless since they are also impervious to the Dip.

Being that stainless is easier to clean, and takedown is easier to clean, I tend to recommend stainless takedown cans like the SWR Spectre and the AAC Element.

3) The only real advantage to aluminum is weight - if you have a light gun like a P22, a stainless can may feel front-heavy. However, the AAC Element was designed to conquer this, and is only 1oz heavier than an equivalent aluminum can. You should still consider aluminum cans if you want a light package. Also, titanium cans are very light.

4) Below are the five categories, I will try to list some good available silencers to consider in each category, in approximate order of quality/desireability:
Aluminum sealed - SWR Warlock, AAC Aviator, AAC Pilot, Gemtech Outback II, Tactical Solutions Cascade
Aluminum takedown - AAC Prodigy (New Core ONLY, old core is loud), Tactical Innovations Tac-65 and Stratus, YHM Mite
Stainless sealed - HTG Universal II
Stainless takedown - SWR Spectre, AAC Element, Tactical Innovations Quest, YHM Mite SS
Titanium - TBAC L or S model, Gemtech Seahunter

5) I would STRONGLY recommend hitting www.silencerresearch.com and signing up for a membership. It costs $30 but could save you from making a $500+ mistake. And, good timing - they are releasing their 2009 .22LR silencer shootout results this month, and they tested over 30 popular models for sound reduction.

6) Check out www.major-malfunction.com when you're ready to buy. He's pretty much the most popular NFA dealer in the country right now - for a good reason. He provides phenomenal customer service and bargain-basement pricing. I bought my 5.56 can from him and will be back.
 
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Prince Yamaot said:
Freakshow, I know nothing about you personally, so please don't take any of this as an insult; I am really curious as to your .22 suppressor design. You have a suppressor that can be easily disassembled and it sells for under $200. That intrigues the heck out of me. Are there videos of it in operation? If this thing works as promised, you are going to be loved by the 2A community at large... and probably bashed by all the other manufacturers on Silencer Talk. You are a pioneer in many ways; you're making NFA items affordable to the average Joe.
No videos yet. We are still in the testing stage. When we get a final design ready for production, we will have pics and videos on the website.

I think more people would be interested in suppressors or other NFA weapons if the prices were lower. Some of the more common complaints why people aren't buying suppressors are price and wait time. If I can make and sell suppressors at a lower price that might make more people buy. When I lived in WI and owned a few suppressors as an average guy, I had a hard time swallowing $400-600 for a suppressor, $100 transfer fee, and then $200 tax on top of that. That is a lot of money.

Now as an SOT, I take the final price into consideration. My $125 suppressor plus $200 transfer tax will run $325 (free shipping). Now you have to shop around for a transfer dealer on the cheap, hopefully $50. If you can get a .22 suppressor in your hands for under $400 including the can, transfer, and tax, that is good deal. After all, ammo prices are going up too.;)
 
I've also heard great things about Major Malfunction. Haven't used his services at all but probably the first place online I'd check for an in stock suppressor. He's like the Bud's Gun Shop of the suppressor world. Bunch of stuff for great prices.
 
I've also heard great things about Major Malfunction. Haven't used his services at all but probably the first place online I'd check for an in stock suppressor. He's like the Bud's Gun Shop of the suppressor world. Bunch of stuff for great prices.

Major Malfunction operates a business model similar to yours. He wants to make NFA ownership available to the "common folk". From what I gather off of his answering machine, NFA sales are not his primary source of income (isn't he a doctor of some sort?), so he can probably take small financial hits here and there with his items.
 
Great advice especially from Conqueror. I know I want a take-down model. I think right now it is between the SWR Spectre (which I have shot and really like) and the TAC-65 (which I have never shot but would save me quite a bit of coin). Now I just need to get some OTD quotes from dealers. I know Major Malfunction is reputable but I've heard that if I buy locally from someone who has it in stock that they often waive the transfer fee...not sure though...
 
I bought a stainless mite from yhm because I plan to have it in a trust and keeping it for a very very long time. Plus it is just about as bulletbroof as .22 suppressors get.

not as quite as some but reasonable priced.
 
ZombiesAhead, that's usually the way it works. Same for guns. If you buy the gun in stock you pay their price. If you get it transferred in you pay a transfer fee.
 
Hey, Freakshow, what about making a suppressor that is egg shaped in cross section or with a bore centerline that is offset like the old Maxim for a Colt Woodsman 1st series so we can use the sights.
 
I could probably handle that as a one off custom job. I don't know about production though. Most guys just use a smaller diameter with a more aggressive baffle design to keep weight down.
 
I know Major Malfunction is reputable but I've heard that if I buy locally from someone who has it in stock that they often waive the transfer fee...not sure though...
That is true, but M3's prices are often so much lower that the savings pay for the transfer fee and more! You should definitely get quotes from him for anything you want to buy.

I mentioned www.silencerresearch.com earlier; their 2009 .22LR shootout was just released. 33 popular .22LR silencers were tested. You really should pay the subscription fee, it is money very well spent. It may profoundly change your ideas on what to buy.
 
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