Now STOP! I can see the words "Just buy a used Browning, Beretta or SKB" already forming in your head!" I know they're very nice and can shoot 400,000 rounds a year for centuries before you need to replace a hammer spring. This simply is not what I intend to use it for.
I'm just wanting an O/U (in 12ga with 28-30" barrels) to round out my shotgun collection more or less, and also to have a spare gun in case I go shoot clays with a buddy. I like my $1150 semi-auto for "serious" shooting. I'm currently going to school on the G.I. Bill, which is great but it doesn't really allow me to save money. I have saved up what I have saved up. Waiting isn't going to allow me to spend more.
That said, I did shoot with a guy the other day who had a Mossberg silver reserve II sporting (and yes, I can see you wincing too). Anyway, I had no idea it was a Mossberg initially and I was pretty impressed with it. It was kinda beefy which I liked and breaking it open was smooth without being loose (and I know that time will tell how long that lasts for). It was definitely not what I was expecting considering what I've read on them. Have times recently changed for Mossbergs? I understand they had, but resolved, a firing pin issue. It was seriously like a Pepsi challenge moment for me when the guy said "Mossberg," granted I'm not extremely experienced with O/U's, but I have shot some quality ones like Kreighoff before.
I should also note that I absolutely hate Stoegers, or any gun where the hammer resets off of the recoil. My father has a Condor, and the safety also liked to switch on after the first shot. No bueno.
From my adventures into internet past, I have seemed to learn that Yildiz shotguns are not universally hated and can sometimes be quite nice-looking. This is at the top of my list unless someone brings something new to light. As I stated before, I actually do kinda dig the Silver Reserve II sporting, are there any recent, known issues related by actual owners? It seems that a lot of people just say "they're crap" and move on, having never owned one. Now, this doesn't mean they can't be right, but I just want to know what breaks (and when if possible).
Also in the running are CZ's just because I like CZ and they meet the price point. I'm not comfortable with ordering a gun online, I want to be able to see the thing in person and make sure it fits me reasonably well beforehand.
Also, I noticed Academy now sells a Webley&Scott (I know, not the "real" kind) for a grand-ish. How are these? From my research they seem to be the top of the line of the Turkish imports...granted we're still talking Turkish import.
I'm just wanting an O/U (in 12ga with 28-30" barrels) to round out my shotgun collection more or less, and also to have a spare gun in case I go shoot clays with a buddy. I like my $1150 semi-auto for "serious" shooting. I'm currently going to school on the G.I. Bill, which is great but it doesn't really allow me to save money. I have saved up what I have saved up. Waiting isn't going to allow me to spend more.
That said, I did shoot with a guy the other day who had a Mossberg silver reserve II sporting (and yes, I can see you wincing too). Anyway, I had no idea it was a Mossberg initially and I was pretty impressed with it. It was kinda beefy which I liked and breaking it open was smooth without being loose (and I know that time will tell how long that lasts for). It was definitely not what I was expecting considering what I've read on them. Have times recently changed for Mossbergs? I understand they had, but resolved, a firing pin issue. It was seriously like a Pepsi challenge moment for me when the guy said "Mossberg," granted I'm not extremely experienced with O/U's, but I have shot some quality ones like Kreighoff before.
I should also note that I absolutely hate Stoegers, or any gun where the hammer resets off of the recoil. My father has a Condor, and the safety also liked to switch on after the first shot. No bueno.
From my adventures into internet past, I have seemed to learn that Yildiz shotguns are not universally hated and can sometimes be quite nice-looking. This is at the top of my list unless someone brings something new to light. As I stated before, I actually do kinda dig the Silver Reserve II sporting, are there any recent, known issues related by actual owners? It seems that a lot of people just say "they're crap" and move on, having never owned one. Now, this doesn't mean they can't be right, but I just want to know what breaks (and when if possible).
Also in the running are CZ's just because I like CZ and they meet the price point. I'm not comfortable with ordering a gun online, I want to be able to see the thing in person and make sure it fits me reasonably well beforehand.
Also, I noticed Academy now sells a Webley&Scott (I know, not the "real" kind) for a grand-ish. How are these? From my research they seem to be the top of the line of the Turkish imports...granted we're still talking Turkish import.