Looks like CMP is running out of most rifles.

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Just got my Service Grade Inland carbine a couple weeks ago and I notice today that version is sold out. Guess I got one of the last ones. I am awaiting a Field Grade HRA Garand I ordered about 6 weeks ago and that model has also been changed to out of stock. Wonder if I'll get mine?

Are there any large quantities of Garands or Carbines still lurking in warehouses that may turn up in the CMP stores or are we seeing the end of an era?
 
They still have plenty of rifles, they just can't keep up with the increased demand.
 
I am awaiting a Field Grade HRA Garand I ordered about 6 weeks ago and that model has also been changed to out of stock. Wonder if I'll get mine?


As long as you ordered it while it was showing on the website you should get it. CMP takes stuff off the website when it looks like they are running out of an item. They know they can sell any odd ones left in one of the stores.
 
If a trip to the north store in Ohio or the south store in Alabama is all possible, do it! It really makes for a great road trip.
 
they have plenty, but it is just that they need to test and fix/refurnish them before they can sell them. that takes time that they usually don't have right now. They come in circles, basically.
 
So the out of stock status is temporary and signifies that rifles are not ready for sale rather than not being available?
 
I just received a Service Grade Springfield Armory M1 of Korean War vintage. It's really in outstanding shape! I couldn't be more pleased.

I ordered the Service Grade and a Correct Grade back in March and received the Service Grade gun on Aug 7. The Correct Grade order is showing "OPEN" status with a shipping date of "TBD" (to be determined?). The Correct Grade was "IN STOCK" when I placed the order...it's now showing "Sold Out - Not Accepting Orders" on their website. I hope they had enough to fill my order.

I also ordered 5 cans of the Greek ammo. I received 4 and was charged for 4. The 5th can was shown "Pending". This was about a month ago that I received the ammo. Today I received an email stating my order had been shipped and my credit card charged...but they sent me 5 more cans and charged me for 5 more. I think I'll just keep them rather than go through the brain damage of trying to return them.
 
Today actually got a call saying that they're out of the M1 Carbine I ordered (Service Grade Inland) After over 3 months of waiting...they gave the option of changing the order to another type, but I chose to just cancel and wait to see how much the Bavarian marked Carbines are going to cost....

I AM rather hoping it's true that it goes in circles...would still like to get a plain carbine too...
 
I was just at the South Store last week, and plan to be there again later this week before they close for their break, and I sure saw lots and lots of rifles. They have sold out of some grades, but for me there is still plenty left to chose from.
 
Maybe some day the Vietnamese commies will cough-up their stash of Carbines?
 
Maybe some day the Vietnamese commies will cough-up their stash of Carbines?
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HAHAHA!

Vietnam would *love* to sell all the military surplus gear they acquired when they conquered South Vietnam. Thing is, the U.S. has a specific embargo on any military surplus items from Vietnam. Not only can it not be imported into the U.S., any weapons dealer who does business with Vietnam and attempts to sell it elsewhere faces possible U.S. sanctions. The cost of losing their license outweighs the profit, so only a relative handful of rifles have been exported to various European countries that allow private citizen ownership.

When South Vietnam fell the North won TONS and TONS of military equipment. We're not talking a few tanks and planes and some rifles, we're talking an entire nation's worth of equipment, much of it still new in the warehouse, complete with then state-of-the-art inventory control systems. The exporters would love to be able to sell this stuff on the open market and collectors would love to bring in some of the planes and choppers and stuff, but it aint' going to happen. By now age has really set in anyway and much of the stuff has been ruined.
 
All that stuff is probably still in cosmo and just fine.

China should be allowed to export weapons and ammo here as well. We buy everything else but from them. :cuss:
 
HA, HA, HA! Things can change, as any student of history well knows. ;)

In addition to the "state of the art" for the time USGI hardware, Vietnam also has (or should have), thousands and thousands of M1 30 Carbines (and M2s) that were carried by ARVN troops prior to their being equipped with M16s in the mid-60s.

Now that CMP stocks of European and other Carbine and Garand returns are running low, Vietnam might well represent the single largest remaining stash of such relics?
 
Just release the carbine ammo and that will be a good start. :p

Probably millions and millions of rounds there.
 
After checking the CMP site after Saxonpig's post, I decided to jump on a local ad selling two former "club" M1 carbines, no accessories. The guy originally wanted $1200 for two moderately worn GI carbines. One is an Inland, and the other is a Saginaw SG. The appear to have period correct parts, except for updated potbelly stocks, and misc unmarked, but GI parts. They also have silly nylon GI slings. No import maks, and the wear seems to be consistent with an unmolested WWII/ Korea vintage carbine. Added to the offer of the carbines in the deal was 16 15-rounders, and 4 30 rounders, and 1000 rds of professionally re-manufactured reloads. I offered $1300, he said $1350, I said o.k. I think I did o.k., bores are extremently shiny and well maintained. Both look operationally fine; haven't fired them yet. Anyone want to comment as to whether I did well, medium, or badly? With ammo at 30 cents a round PLUS for new Aguila, I felt my offer at 20 cents equivalent for reloads, and $10 each on the mags still put me into a good deal. Comments welcome.
 
This past April, what are essentially "rack grade" Inlands were selling for upwards of $650 at local gunshows here in PA. Nothing much to look at, typical mix master combos of GI parts. For about the same money, you could've had a new Auto Ord one, but I like the originals better.

So I'd say the two you mentioned with all the extra bling, would be a deal?

15 round GI Mags go from $12 to $20, new Korean ones for around $15. My CMP Inland has the proper mag catch to use the 30 rounders, but I have no interest in them.
 
I guess waiting for Colt 6920's to hit $999 would be out of the realm of possibility ? I've seen them as low as $1099, with most going for $1199.

I saw a few posts at THR going back to 2005 that show the prices at $1350.

Could it be Obama helped prices, say it ain't so !!!!:what:
 
Oops, wrong place.. on topic though, my uncle has 6 very nice M1 Garands, I think he paid $350-$400, maybe less.

On a side note, what happened to the .276 cartridge originally designed for the Garand, is it used in anything ?
 
Are there any large quantities of Garands or Carbines still lurking in warehouses that may turn up in the CMP stores
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Yes, I think this is the case. Obviously they are getting lower, but I don't think that there will be no more of X guns.

This is taken from the CMP's 1903 sales page:

THESE MODELS WILL NOT AGAIN BE AVAILABLE UNTIL 2010, AT THE EARLIEST.
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All 1903's are marked as sold out, but it looks like they are expecting more to me.

Additionally, I have read stuff on the CMP forums that have talked about certain rifles being marked out as sold out in the past, and then the CMP selling more when they get a good supply built up.
 
FYI, at the CMP store South the 192 round cans of Greek .30 for $75 are not being offered. They have been replaced by the same ammo in 240 round cans for $94. Whether this will coninue to be the case I do not know.
 
Hard to say what will turn up and when, although there are finite numbers of US-made WWII and Korean War firearms on the planet.

Milsurp ammo can be a real pig in a poke these days.

Saw several cans of some foreign-made 7.62 NATO this summer that's in links, berdan primed and kinda ratty looking. Obviously MG ammo manufactured overseas and not what I'd want to shoot in a vintage arm chambered in that round, regardless of the price.
 
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