Mr. rcmodel--I fully concur with your O-ring analogy. I must emphasize though, I'm not referring to pockets so loose that the primer falls out on it's own. Lots of fellows in this discussion keep referring to "brass is cheap". I mentioned it earlier, but apparently it slipped by several folks--I'm referring to brass that costs upwards of $2 EACH, and then have about 30-45 minutes of work EACH just to get to the point of first firing. My whole interest in this is that I think that the safety issue regarding loose primers is way overblown. (Pun?) Note the several "incidences" referred to in this conversation that are completely unrelated to the primer pocket. It goes back to my initial request for reports on experience with either the Hart primer pocket swage, or that of any other manufacturers. The object in my view is to assure that one doesn't have primers falling out of the case. Again, only referencing bolt action guns; no semi-autos. Everyone is intitled to an opinion. I'm fishing for factual information.
Loose primer pockets
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TackDriver1956
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This past weekend I had a loose primer ignite while disassembling rifle rounds with an inertial puller (bullet hammer).
Luckily for me, the primer cup ejected without igniting the powder charge, but I imagine that 35 grains of 3031 in a brass case surrounded by a plastic hammer, would have been loud and rather messy. The wife probably would have banned further reloading in the house.
I've been using the bullet hammer from time to time for over 15 years. This was the first time I've had a primer blow.
An RCBS collet-type, press mounted puller is on order.
I've never really been bothered much by loose (easy insert) primers in the .223 black rifle. They don't fall out in the mag or the firing, and the pressure seems to seal them so I've never seen any bolt face or case evidence of leakage.
Having a 6mm Remington round blow in a plastic hammer though, that's scary.
This past weekend I had a loose primer ignite while disassembling rifle rounds with an inertial puller (bullet hammer).
Luckily for me, the primer cup ejected without igniting the powder charge, but I imagine that 35 grains of 3031 in a brass case surrounded by a plastic hammer, would have been loud and rather messy. The wife probably would have banned further reloading in the house.
I've been using the bullet hammer from time to time for over 15 years. This was the first time I've had a primer blow.
An RCBS collet-type, press mounted puller is on order.
I've never really been bothered much by loose (easy insert) primers in the .223 black rifle. They don't fall out in the mag or the firing, and the pressure seems to seal them so I've never seen any bolt face or case evidence of leakage.
Having a 6mm Remington round blow in a plastic hammer though, that's scary.
I've had a few somewhat easily inserted primers that do not fall out in my 460 S&W Mag with no problems at the range. Would I use them for something serious (Hunting) NO. I just separate them and get more brass as needed. Also I mark the primer with Black Marker so I know Which ones went in easy.
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Your smacking the wrong end of the hammer.
Sorry, I couldn't resist.Don
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