Lower recoil 308 target bullet

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Thanks to some good info here I've found a good hunting round for my 8 yr. olds new 308! We put together some lightly loaded rounds with 125 Sierra pro hunters with win. 748 and they shoot nice! He shoots them with confidence and has no worries about recoil. I'm looking at a better bullet to load up for him to shoot some steel with me at some longer ranges. I'm looking at some 125 or 135 matchkings to keep recoil low for him. Anyone have any loads to share in this area?
 
Thanks to some good info here I've found a good hunting round for my 8 yr. olds new 308! We put together some lightly loaded rounds with 125 Sierra pro hunters with win. 748 and they shoot nice! He shoots them with confidence and has no worries about recoil. I'm looking at a better bullet to load up for him to shoot some steel with me at some longer ranges. I'm looking at some 125 or 135 matchkings to keep recoil low for him. Anyone have any loads to share in this area?
I believe previously, you stated his long range would be 300ish yds, if that's still the case, you don't NEED a different bullet, but if you just want better bc because HE wants a 1/2 moa group at 400 yds and the ONLY thing keeping him from it IS the bullet, then a match bullet might be fine, but I suggest running them on a stability calculator to be sure that they'll stabilize with the lower recoil loading. Personally, I know of no reason why an 8 year old can't learn to shoot WELL with the load already given before working up a new target load. My kids practice with quick quality loads that I can group nicely(sub 2 moa, preferably 1) until they can group equally as well at the same distances before I try to get them the 1 hole wonder loads.
 
What distance is "longer ranges", 300 yards or 1500 yards?
I have a shooting range in my back yard anywhere from 10yds. to 2 miles if I choose. This is my first year shooting seriously and so far the longest I have shot with decent success is 785 yds. Judging wind is giving me a fit, even with the 190 grain bullets I shoot in 300 wm! So I know , it will be extra challenging for the kids light 125 grain bullet. From what I saw yesterday if pushes it around a lot! When im shooting some long targets , I KNOW he will want to try them, so I want to give him the best shot at it. He is shooting good and is taking an interest in reloading. Its something we work on together.
 
I figured this thread would lead to something else. AGAIN, does anyone have any loads or experience loading 125, 135 match bullets in 308?
 
H4895 with 125 nosler ballistic tips and also sierra 110hp. I know thcan sierra doesn't have a good bc but there is very minimal recoil.

I don't have an exact load for you as all of my 308 rifles seem to have a different sweet spot but they are an accurate bullet and h4895 hasn't failed me yet and their data is online at hodgdon.

Varget also works if you keep it on lower end of data

I believe 3031 has some data in my Lyman book which I'll try to find for you. It is going to be lower on the recoil level.

So basically Lyman data and h4895 should have you covered.
 
I figured this thread would lead to something else. AGAIN, does anyone have any loads or experience loading 125, 135 match bullets in 308?
Yes I do, in .308 and 30-06. I posted how in Post #2. Most powders, especially ball powders like W748 do not react well when downloaded while H4885 does according to Hodgdon. You can safely reduce the charges a full 60% and use charges anywhere between that and the max charge.

I didn't give charges numbers because I never get the same accuracy in 3 different rifles I use so it would probably do you no good. You can easily find the mix of accuracy and acceptable recoil for your son's rifle.

The 135gr Sierra MatchKing has worked well for me but if you can't find them they also produce a 125gr .308" MatchKing but I think it was designed for the 300 Blackout. Depending on the wind and distance you might want to go slightly heavier. Nosler has a 140gr Custom Competition bullet that I tried and liked. Believe it or not the price of the Nosler bullet is usually lower than the Sierra bullets.
 
I have emailed sierra and they told me that both 125 and 135 matching kings can be shot stable at higher velocity , even though they were designed for 300 blackout. I have not looked at speer in a while, but have used some in 30-06 that shot good....
 
Well like mentioned H4895 has worked good for me and my three grandsons. My .308 is a Ruger Compact and only has an 16.5" barrel on it. I'm not setting any speed records with it even using top end loads.The oldest now 15 started out using those loads when he was not much past his 3rd birthday. I used the lowest charge weight I could with the Nosler 125gr BT bullet and they shot really well out to 100yds. That said however I only let him use them out to 50yds max.

He started shooting them around the first or middle of March that year, and shot his first hog with them two weeks before his 4th birthday around the second week of Nov. After he got a bit more experience I upped the load and also moved up to the 130gr TTSX. He liked that one a LOT, and shot a bunch of hogs with it as the years have passed by. As he got a bit older and more accustomed to the recoil we just moved the charge weight up a half or grain at a time. He hasn't let up since. Also those 130gr Speer bullets shot very well. I used a LOT of those for practice as they were a fair bit cheaper than the Barnes.

While NOT trying to change the subject but simply to add to the loads with H4895. With the two younger ones, I used the Nosler 100gr Solid Base bullets loaded the same way only in .243. They have both had success with those as well.

Whats great about the loads using H4895 is that you can start out so low and can then work up all the way through the full spectrum to the top end load for that bullet weight, and there are usually a couple of accuracy nodes that simply drill the bull time and time again. That and you can use the data for ANY bullet weight which has H4895 data listed.

Having the three grandsons, at 9, 11, and 15, I fully understand your quest and wish you all the best on it.
 
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I second, third and fourth the recommendations for H4895

I loaded up 500ish 125g Speer TNTs with H4895 for a PDog hunt I did with my son a couple of years ago. Very accurate and light recoil

I also used H4895 for light recoil loads for him to shoot in my .358 win
 
I second, third and fourth the recommendations for H4895

I loaded up 500ish 125g Speer TNTs with H4895 for a PDog hunt I did with my son a couple of years ago. Very accurate and light recoil

I also used H4895 for light recoil loads for him to shoot in my .358 win
That would be a lot of H4895 recommendations since I suggested it back in Post #2. I feel its a very good choice.
 
He helped me make some rounds today and shot them. He told me they are just right for him! Hardly bucked him at all. Lil fella held it steady and shot 4 into a nice little 1.25" group at 70 yds! We put him 44.5 grains of win 748 , got the 125 pro hunter bullet going 2640 fps. Not bad for the 20" barrel.
 
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