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m&p 9 or sig 226

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by tonytor58, Dec 14, 2012.

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  1. tonytor58

    tonytor58 Member

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    Just as the title states I have found good prices on both pistols and want a full size gun for competition. The sig is like $150 more than the m&p, but I have this urge to buy the sig cause its on the bucket list. Will the m&p be more practical for idpa? I have shot idpa with my fnp9 and had some trouble with transition fro da to sa. I am open to suggestions outside these two but really have a like for these two.
     
  2. 1KPerDay

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    If you have trouble with the transition go with the one with the consistent trigger.

    The SIG P226 is a fantastic pistol, however. My personal favorite. I compete (informally/recreationally) with mine and don't take first place but I generally do okay.

    IMO I'd look for a lightly used West German P226... as long as we're bucket-listing.
     
  3. The Lone Haranguer

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    Whichever fits, handles and shoots better for you. Personally, I find that particular SIG much too large for my hands as well as having a very long stroke DA trigger, while the M&P is practically an extension of my arm and hand. I'd try to rent and shoot representative examples of both before committing to $$$.
     
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    Always a good idea. :cool:
     
  5. 9mmepiphany

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    I've competed in IDPA with both, but my experience might not mirror yours as both of mine were highly tuned.

    I have a lot more years with the SIG, having used it as a duty gun, and have found that the DA/SA transition is highly overblown as an impediment to accurate or fast shooting. I've actually found that my first DA shot, when drawing out of the holster was often more accurate than my followup SA shots.

    I'm currently shooting a M&P9 with the Apex Tactical FSS and don't have a problem keeping up with folks shooting their 9mm 1911s in ESP.

    The biggest difference that I have found between the two is the speed of transition between targets. The lighter M&P will start and stop faster between targets. The trade off is that a lighter gun will usually jump more as the muzzle flips.

    Shot side by side, the 226 will hold a slightly tighter group for me at 20 yards (IDPA Classifier)

    If you are shooting untuned models of each in SSP, I think the SIG 226 has a slight edge to begin with as it is a bit easier to shoot accurately and to make follow up shots...plus it is on your bucket list
     
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    EDIT: ^^+1 and besides, bucket list should always win...
    I think you pretty much got what you need for advise. Try both and then go with it!
    I am a sig guy, I guess, so I would go with the 226. And a standard one is not that heavy or big for CCW too, if you ever need to. I have small hands and find the 226 pretty shootable and much prefer the DA/SA with no safety.
    M&P's have pretty good reps too, so I don't think you can really go wrong here...
    Is capacity a concern? i am not sure what the capacity on the M&P is.
     
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    In most states, it is 17 + 1; although for IDPA, you'd be limited to 10
     
  8. tonytor58

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    Thanks for the advise I will try to shoot both at a local range first. I am leaning towards tje sig is there anything that can improve the da/ sa trigger on the 226 like the apex on the m&p?
     
  9. Corpral_Agarn

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    I have a "Short Reach" trigger on mine. All it does is give my small hands a better reach on the trigger so I can use the pad of my finger a little easier.
    They also make the "Short Reset" trigger for the SA shots. That usually comes standard with the "Upper" versions of the 226 but you can buy the kit from places like Midway USA.
    The best thing to do would be to send it off to Gray Guns for a working over, but that's expensive.
    Some people say you can put a lighter spring in it to reduce the pull weight of the DA, but i wouldn't recommend it. As long as the DA is smooth the 10lbs shouldn't be too much trouble. I find mine quite controllable and accurate.
     
  10. tonytor58

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    Thanks corp, I think the next step is to shoot them. I dont know if ill ne able to pass up the good deal on an m&p, but I am gonna look into finding someone with an m&p and 226 to shoot.
     
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    i would go with the sig. you wont regret it
     
  12. tonytor58

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    Robbins, what about the sig makes you say that? Im just curious because i dont have one.
     
  13. Jim Watson

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    I have a Burwell Plastic M&P and a Gray P226.
    Of the two, I do better with the M&P.
    It is not just the crunch-tick, I do not mind a CZ-75 DA-SA. Or a revolver for that matter.

    I sure wish Bruce would find a way to put a thumb safety on my Sig.
     
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    I shoot an M&P, but if I had the chance to get a Sig P226 for only $150 more than I paid for my M&P....well, I would have a Sig in the holster for competition from then on.
     
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    I bought a m&p9 fs for about half of what a p226 costs in my neck of the woods.Another plus for me is the weight difference,about 10ounces lighter for the m&p.
     
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    Your talking already about an M&P and the APEX kit ($100). Why not just take the one that doesn't require the Kit for what amounts to $50 more?
     
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    Because he doesn't like a transition from da to sa.
    I tried a stock m&p a couple of weeks ago and I was impressed.
     
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    I shot both. The ergo's are way better on the p226. The 226 has less noticeable recoil. It's a little more money. But I think it's worth it. Everyone I know that has a m&p and used it for major target practice, that had to being it back to smith and Wesson for things breaking. Like frame lugs, cracked slides, sights falling off. Thet fixed it for free but they couldn't use the pistol for a month till they got it back. My brother had his sig for 5 years now and beat the snot out of his. Puts over 10k rounds a year and twice that in dry fires. Never had a issue with the P226. I sold my m9 and s&w for the p226. Never. Looked back and regretted it.
     
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    I tried a 9 Pro and could not get over the trigger hinge, as I use gloves quite a bit, and got a little pissed that it would need APEX kits to bring it online.

    Picked up a used 226 last winter before going to a SIG Armorer school. (Summit gun broker.) Tore it down, dropped in a fresh parts kit and an SRT. Amazing pistol. I was going to got all out on a TAC OPS 226 but could not swallow the price, even with LE Discount. Glad I went used and refurbed it myself. She's a keeper, scuffed a bit and I don't mind. Go 226.
     
  20. BigJimP

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    Of your 2 choices, I favor the 226 as well....because it fits my hands better, and I like the trigger better ...and the controls better on it than the M&P ....

    but to the point, there is no "mechanical reason" to pick one over the other ...they're both solid guns..

    What matters - is what fits your hands the best, what controls you like, which trigger you like....rent or shoot as many of the guns you think you like as you can -- and figure out which one you like the best.
     
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    If you can afford it get the SIG. Better get it yesterday because an AWB is coming. Act fast what ever you do.
     
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    If it were me I'd buy an older 226 just because there are so many good deals out there on used pistols, that and prices have climbed so high in the last five or six years.
     
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    My duty pistol is the M&P. I'm also a firearms instructor. I carry a SIG.
     
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    This.
     
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    I would like to see some documentation on the above stated M&P problems.:)
     
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