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M&P for sig P229, worth a trade?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by bad86ta, Sep 10, 2010.

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  1. bad86ta

    bad86ta Member

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    Hi all, I am looking for a little good advice...

    I am looking at trading my full size S&W M&P .40 for a Sig P229 (Pre rail)..
    I would consider offering an additional $100 cash...

    M&P has less then 250 rds through it, Sig has unknown round count but runs flawless.....
    Both have all the normal goodies that go with them...


    Is the a reasonable deal or should I look @ something else???

    Thanks!

    FORGOT: SIG HAS NIGHT SIGHTS, M&P DOES NOT
     
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  2. wow6599

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    As much as I like the M&P, I would make the trade.
     
  3. mjb

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    I am issued a M&P .40 at work (security officer). I own an older Sig 229. Even though the M&P is a good gun, I wished I could carry the Sig. Sounds like a good trade to me.
     
  4. Welding Rod

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    I'd go for the Sig, though I would prefer a 226 instead of the 229. But if the smaller gun is what you want... I say go for it.
     
  5. MikePGS

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    Value wise, the Sig is worth more. For some reason though the P229 fits weird in my hand. That may be different for you of course.
     
  6. Evergreen

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    Nope.. I sold my Sig P229 Elite, which was pretty, but a pain to operate, bulky, heavy and I was nota fan of DA/SA.. I am now have purchased an M&P 9 which , even though is not as pretty/sexy or expensive, I feel has the same accuracy , easier to carry and, at least for me, has smoother operation then the Sig P229 and its safety/deccocker,hammer, DA/SA, etc etc..

    Sigs are great guns for the range, but I feel more confident carrying my M&P

    YMMV
     
  7. sig228

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    Make the trade. You wont be disappointed.

    But, as pointed out by Evergreen, make sure you like the trigger of the Sig. It might be a DA/SA, which is obviously different than the DAO M&P.
     
  8. Skylerbone

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    It might help us all if we knew the rationale for the proposed trade.

    I, for one am a big fan of the M&P. I started with the full size 40 after my father talked me out of the Beretta 92 (he carried one as a LEO for several years). The price was right, the ergonomics were right, materials, workmanship, guarantee. Ok, I didn't like the trigger but I remedied that for less than $100.

    Since that first purchase, I've added a 9compact and 9long to the M&P stable and all have been absolutely reliable. Before trading and loosing money on another pistol, have a look at these links and see what can be done to an M&P for $100:
    http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com/mandpprices.html
    http://www.burwellgunsmithing.com/index.htm

    Here's another link to some great accessories:
    http://www.speedshooterspecialties.com/catalog/display.php?category=Smith+%26+Wesson+M%26P+9%2F40%2F357

    Sometimes we get caught up with what we don't have and fail to realize how good we have it. I could have bought 3 Sigs. I could have bought a Beretta. I spent close to $1,000 this week on a new scope and rings for a favorite rifle. I chose the M&P three times not for price point (which I mentioned was good anyway) and not for looks but because they function properly and are a joy to shoot. I wouldn't take a NIB Sig anything in trade and I respect the Sig's reputation but the M&Ps are just that good.

    $75 in Apex parts and 20 minutes to install them will have you wondering why you ever doubted the Smith. If, however there is another issue, there are tons of M&P owners on here who would surely lend some advice.

    Best of luck.
     
  9. Skylerbone

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    My Three Amigos. Born and raised in the USA! (and one of their big brothers in the background). I was so happy with the first trigger job, I did the other two myself.
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Manco

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    Personally, I didn't choose my M&P40 because it was less expensive than some other guns--I chose it because I liked it best regardless of price. However, if you like the P229 better, then I would say that's more than a fair deal for you based on current market prices, especially considering the night sights. I wouldn't make this trade myself because I'd rather have an M&P40--if I wanted a P229 more, then I would have bought one in the first place instead (nothing against the P229, it's just individual preference).
     
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  11. sigbear

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    Another Sig Vote

    The M&P is lighter and easier to carry period, the 229 is (IMO) a better gun in every other comparison.

    Sigbear
     
  12. The Lone Haranguer

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    SIGs are unquestionably accurate and reliable, but just don't fit my hand like the M&P does, nor do they have a consistent short stroke trigger like the M&P does. Personally I would not make such a trade.
     
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    Check out Reaper's post in the Autoloader section entitled "Sig eliminated from ATF trials, S&W Vs. Glock". They were eliminated due to reliability issues with 58 stoppages recorded during phase II of a three phase test. Their protest of the decision was also thrown out.
     
  15. Lateck

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    If the SIG feels good in your hand I'll say trade.

    I traded my Glock 22 for a SIG P226 (both .40S&W) :D

    Lateck,
     
  16. Squidbert

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    I own both. I shoot the M&P better. They're both great guns though, and you can't go wrong with either. The M&P is definitely a better conceal / carry pistol due to weight and size.
     
  17. MCMXI

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    Are you serious? How does the elimination of the SIG P250 from a recent ATF selection process have any bearing on whether or not the OP should trade for a P229? Perhaps you'd care to explain your logic? :confused:

    :)
     
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    1858, good point - I missed that post. The P250 has little more in common with a classic Sig than the mfr name itself. Sig made just as much of a mistake in stamping that pistol with their name as they did the Mosquito, IMO.
     
  19. Skylerbone

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    It was in response to TheL.H.'s statement that "SIGs are unquestionably accurate and reliable..." His was a general statement about the line rather than the P229, my response was directed toward him rather than the op and was perhaps off point, but a statement of fact none the less.

    Another point about reliability is that the P229 (correct me if I'm wrong) was introduced in 40 S&W form in 1994, meaning the specimen being considered MAY BE 16 years old.

    The op stated that round count was unknown vs. his M&P which he stated had 250 rounds through it. Having no record of maintenence on what could be a teenage pistol is in my opinion another strike against it, not a universal stamp against Sig. It is another reason for my asking the op his REASON for considering a trade. Having 3 M&Ps which I disliked the stock triggers on leads me to believe that MAY be the culprit.

    Until the question is answered, we are all left to draw our own conclusions and give our own opinions. Mine is that few firearms leave their respective manufacturers in perfect form thanks in no small part to lawyers and politicians. Believing the op has the superior of the two pistols (again in my opinion) but is ready to ditch it after so small a round count sends up a red flag. It could be as simple as "I saw it in a movie" or as complex as "I just read about what S&W did during the Clinton administration and can no longer stomach the idea of shooting their products".

    Thank you 1858 for pointing out what may have been misleading on my part. It was not meant to be so, nor would I care to be known as a Sig basher.
     
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    Sig!

    ...there that's better.
     
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    Sig!!!
     
  22. bad86ta

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    The reason for looking at the trade is that while I shoot my M&P good, I still don't shoot it as well as I would like to.... Trigger pull doesn't really bother me but i guess it could be the culprit...

    Im going over to my buddies this week to get a better idea of what I like best...
    He has 3 sigs, 2 xds, 3 glocks... We'll see which I shoot best....
     
  23. jeepguy

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    i would make the trade i think sig makes a great firearm. except for sp2022,250,mosquito & 238 as i can't recomend these.
     
  24. mooner

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    Keep the M&P and practice more.
     
  25. Jed Carter

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    Get the SIG, the night sights alone are worth the price difference. I have 5 SIGs and have traded off all my S&W pistols over the years, even the old model 39. In each trade I got a pistol that way out performed the Smith I lost. The P229 is a timeless classic, the M&P I would not regret trading.
     
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