M1897 Manual of Arms Questions

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I plan on getting a Norinco 1897 "Trench Gun" one of these days; I find it ironic that the Chinese would be the only ones to come up with the idea of reproducing this classic shotgun, despite the increasing popularity of "vintage" designs.

Of course, you don't see Winchester or Remington making too many Coach Guns either, despite the popularity of CAS. Most coach guns come from Russia, China, or other places.

ANYway, the 1897's slide release button is on the right side of the receiver, just below the hammer.

But there's another button, the "shell release" button, that's on both sides of the receiver.

I'm a little fuzzy on what purpose this serves. You don't have to push it each time you fire, do you? I'm assuming that after you initially load the shotgun, you push it to allow the shells to be chambered. Does it function as a magazine cutoff, then? If so, how do you turn it back on, that is, get the magazine tube to STOP releasing the shells?

Thanks.

You know, though, as near as I can tell, the combat shotgun has improved little over the past 106 years. Take an 1897 reproduction, make it out of modern steel. Ad a recoil pad to the stock, and maybe an M1 Garand type safety to the trigger guard (since it lacks a manual safety). Add ghost ring sights (I think it could be done, though it'd look weird), and maybe extend the magazine tube (doing so wouldn't necessarily interefere with the bayonet mount). And, while you're at it, make it take M16 bayonets instead of 1917 ones. Maybe add synthetic furniture and a sidesaddle.

Then, you'd have a 106 year old design with all of what are considered the best features of a modern combat shotgun.

But, even as is, I wouldn't feel the least bit underarmed with an 1897...
 
if i remember correctly, and i very well may not seeing as how i DON'T own one yet!! the "shell release is for unlaoding the gun.... as in emptying the Mag without having to shuch the rounds throught he chamber...... again i maybe adn probably AM wrong but this is what i seem to remember, from discussions ont eh '97 when i was into Cowboy Action Shooting.

adn btw there IS a manual safety, it's the same type that's been on lever action rifles for years, a Halfcock. it's just not "half way" back int eh hammer's arc of movement. at the "half cock" notch the hammer is only back from "full forward" maybe 1/8-1/4 inch.

i will grant that now a days, due to unfamiliarity, most folks are NOT comfortable using a half-cock-notch safety. it having been drilled into our heads that you should NOT ease the hammer down toward a live round lest your finger(s) slip. but the device IS present, though not used by most owners of 97s i've met.
 
My dad used the Model 97 as a police officer and spoke glowingly about the ability to hold back the trigger and empty the weapon by slam firing due to its lack of a disconnector. :cool:
 
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