MA Troopers get dud Sigs

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on a semi-related note, is there any website out there that might list which guns, various departments are issuing to their officers?

Not very important, I'm just curious as to what our law enforcement officers are carrying with them.
 
Not the first time they had problems with sears or trigger bars. Back in the early 90's they had to modify several thousand sears do to a problem.

Every manafacture can have problems it's how they fix them that counts.
 
Look at the reaction!

Send them all back! Officers stay home:confused: because 4 guns jammed?:eek:

I think the "jammed" in the report means a failure to fire, Not a feeding jam.
The trigger jammed, or something like that, seems to be implied.

Now what do they do? Do they have a contract that provides for repair/replacement of defective guns? They should.

Based on the numbers mentioned we are looking at about 2.5% failure to perform ("jammed"). Does this justify the return of the entire lot?

As far as all the money this is costing the taxpayers of the Commonwealth, that is just the cost of the administrative bureaucracy.

Change guns? Then the department procedures and union contracts determine training requirements. Some administrator makes the decision to recall the guns and go back to the old ones, and you just "changed guns" again. Making it sound that it is the fault of the Sig pistols that the troopers have to get training on overtime, thereby costing the taxpayers even more, is spin.

A police administrator (or group of) made the decision not to get the defective guns fixed and the others inspected. Their decisions have a direct bearing on taxpayer costs in resolving this issue.

AND, just how much (if any) firing was involved in the officer training? Anybody else here think it a good idea to take a new autoloader and fire it a few times, then put it in a holster and carry it for street duty?

How many rounds does Mass require it's troopers to put through their guns before using them for duty? Enough to find malfunctions? Enough to reasonably determine reliability? It would be a good figure to have when considering the situation.
 
The lesson ... they dont make em like they used to! keep your old Sigs cause they are the classics hehe.
 
ammo...

It would help to know what type of ammo the testing, R/D officers were using with these .40 SIG DAK pistols. If they are reloads or a cheap training type round that could cause some of these problems. Testing should be conducted with factory fresh rounds that the MA state police picked for duty use.

Many years ago I had a Glock 21 .45acp jam up a few times on a rental range. I think it was due to the cheap reloaded ammo not the pistol ;) . My Beretta 96D(a NP3 plated surplus gun from a state LE agency) had a minor problem with a small bit of brass caught up in the slide. When I removed the small metal sliver the 96D kept shooting like a champ! :D

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