Made in the U.S.A. only

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Anybody here refuse to buy guns made outside of the U.S.A.?

I only look at the quality, safety, price and price for accessories. Origin or manufacturer are secondary.
I guess todays gun are never be 100% American made. Magic word is "profit maximisation" of company.

US made gun are not better then other at the same price range. An Colt made AR15 is not better then a german made AR15 from Oberland Arms (OA15).

If I want accurate gun I'll buy a Swiss Made one, If I want somethink make fun I buy US made. (like my Ruger Mini 14 and Ruger PC 9)
For reliability I've my bulgarian AK.

But I never buy a Chinese made gun. But I think I'm not going to do that. I want quality and not quantity!

Just my own opinion.
 
How come the XD seems to be referred to as made in the US? Croatia is the country of origin on every XD Springfield sells. Anyone who says US made firearms are a "better deal" than foreign imports hasn't been shopping lately. I have a cal 223 (5.56x45) rifle that shoots into an inch at a hundred yards, takes high capacity magazines, is easy to field strip and reassemble, has a lifetime warranty, is light weight, includes scope mount, is not fussy about cleaning, has chrome lined bore and chamber and cost $275.00 brand new in the box from the importer. Made in Russia by Ishmash who makes all the REAL AK battle rifles and Assault Rifles on the Kalashnikov pattern. Anyone got a nice AR15 to sell for less than three hundred bucks?
 
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Sure, you get more stuff, but once again they have to throw things in to attract people. Do not get me wrong, before I decided on my Glock I look at the XD. I did not like the way it felt in my hand and according to some research, Glock has better quality. Concealability. I think is a good gun to conceal, at least I do not have a problem.
 
I paid $450 for a new Subcompact XD9 with holster, high capacity and compact magazine, cleaning kit, lock, carrying case, and speed-loader. What planet do you live on?

Which as the above post notes, is made in Croatia.

You’re better off buying an AK47 made in Texas than nearly any imported AK, including China.

Have you ever held an Arsenal, Saiga, or Polytech/Norinco? Obviously Not.

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Where one buys is obviously their individual taste, but again, some of you emit xenophobic remarks at the drop of a hat. Every Chinese person is a "commie" to some of you. How many of you have actually been to China? They're hardly a communist country. Foreigners are not boogymen. They're actually people like you and me, how probably have families and like the same things, like beer, guns, and professional sports.
 
I personally do not own a gun not made in the U.S.. They include Kimber, Mossberg, Savage, and Remington. If you want America to stay wealthy you can do you part and not ship your money to sociolist/communist countries. I wouldn't mind owning European made firearms but thats about as far as I will go.
 
Have you ever held an Arsenal, Saiga, or Polytech/Norinco? Obviously Not.
If I remember correctly Arsenal is based in Las Vegas, Nevada, no? Also I wonder if someone with the sn Prince Yamato is bias in favor of Asian weapons? :)
 
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An AR receiver is aluminum, that's why it won't rust like an AK. The AR is "cast" aluminum, that’s why the receiver won't get bent or damaged as easy as the .8mm or so stamped AK. The magazine loading is not as easy, the soldier on average for weight and volume carries less ammo, and the gas tube design on the AK lends itself to easy damage. The aluminum is lighter than the steel as well on the AR. However, the AR15 from the day of its inception was more expensive because of the cast aluminum specifically, but also tighter tollerances, and chrome work. The 223, is a flatter shooting round and from 0-300 meters and has less deviation from line of sight (Above and bellow). With less recoil especially because of the buffer spring design the AR is easier to manage on auto or burst, with a closer grouping when firing multiple shots. The AK was a cheap and easy to mass produce weapon for countries with very limited industrial capacity and limited money. It's a "cult gun" and although very reliable (although not indestructible as some believe), this weapon NEVER was an exceptional good design in those aspects that would make it accurate, manageable, light.....etc. In fact the 7.62 round with it’s nice stability (18 cm penetration before turn) tends to punch nice clean holes through, while 5.56 already rotates at 7 cm with higher velocity (ripping apart non-elastic organs better) causing in human like targets more damage. The AK is heavier, less accurate, more corrosion susceptible, less manageable and frankly not even more reliable, and on average with even less target effect on a human. The rest of the world (France, Germany, UK, Austria, Australia, Korea….etc) in the meantime has gone to a high velocity smaller round, including the Russian 5.45.

The AR costs more; it’s also a lot more gun. If you like your AK, I'm happy for you, but it's a cheap gun for a reason.
 
I think different than a lot of people. When I spend my money for anything, I buy what I want just as close to home as I can. If I spend my money close to home I have a chance of getting some of it back again in some way. If I send my money to some foreign country, there's not much of a chance of me getting a hold of it again. American Companies have paid my wages all my life, and I feel I owe them a little support. If I didn't like America I would sure leave it. :) P.S. All the guns I own are made by American Companies.
 
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I didn’t say the XD was “Made in USA” by FTC definition did I? However, Springfield is a US based firm; the XD is largely manufactured in the US, and offers more value than the Glock.

The term “Made in USA”, just like “Made in Germany” have national laws that apply to what that means and under which conditions this mark can be used. It has a specific meaning and it is not open to a firms own interpretation thereof. When you buy a product that has “Made in USA” stamped on it, 75% of the value of that product was transformed to its value in the US. Something another poster did not understand.
 
I buy the right tool for the job. If that means I have to pay for a U.S.A.-made Cooper or a Rohrbaugh then I pay it. If it means a CZ pistol or rifle is the way to go then I save a little money.

"the makes Remington and Winchester probably comprise greater than 50% of all shotguns used"

My favorite duck gun is a camo Winchester SX-2, but it was made in Belgium.

John
 
All my stuff's American, and I bought what I liked.

IMHO, the only UAW members who were actually earning their inflated paychecks and insane benefits packages were those who produced Colts.
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No bias there. :rolleyes:

I buy American when I can, but as stated, a lot of times that's craftily disguised. On that note, I have a Subaru made in Indiana. I won't buy an American car nowadays, they're junk. Don't think so, do 300 miles of back roads driving on it and see how much it rattles. More than my Subaru, I'll guarantee you that. People are out there buying $70,000 corvettes that are falling apart in just a few years and rattling like nobody's business, no thanks, that's not quality.

On guns, I don't really care, whatever fits my fancy and my budget is what I buy. I do think American when I'm shopping, and I do own American rifles in Ruger and RRA M4gery (RRA is American right?). I even have an S&W pistol adn really like it, but that said. I like my Taurus and Tanfoglios just as much, if not more. Not so much for quality, they are about the same, but they just seem to fit me better, fit is king in firearms if you ask me. If your loyal to something that doesn't fit you just because it's American, well good for you. If it makes you sleep better at night, so be it. To each his own.
 
Jeep. Don't understand the bias remark.

Unless you're trying to say that since my username is Colt, I am obligated to only like Colts.:rolleyes:

I drive a Toyota.
 
The majority of my collection (military surplus) comes from abroad. Only my Garand was made here stateside. At least when a foreign country makes a product, you know it's from that country as opposed to here in the United States.
 
Origin of manufacture has almost no impact on my purchasing habits. Quality and value matters a lot more. That being said, if the nation that manufactured the item did something I severely disagreed with, I would have no problem boycotting any product made in that nation, regardless of price or value.
 
"At least when a foreign country makes a product, you know it's from that country as opposed to here in the United States."

How about the Turkish CZ Shotguns? But I guess that doesn't matter because if you're willing to buy Czech made, who cares if it's made by a turkey right.
 
Hmmmmmm

Ok, I have a Yugoslavian SKS, and a Romanian M-44 Mosin-Nagant. Also have an RG-38 revolver....probably made in Germany a ".38Spezial" caliber.

My other stuff, though, is PRIMARILY US made. Springfield does have their 1911-A1 frames made somewhere else..Brazil, Maybe?

So, can anyone actually define 'foreign made'? Honda Gold Wing motorcyles made in Marysville, OH...BMW cars (some models) made in Spartanburg, SC...Ford Crown Victoria models are Canadian....Some Toyotas come from Sparta (?) TN. Mazda has a huge plant near Detroit, MI....[how about that..Japanese car maker right in the heart of USA car manufacturing... 'Motor City', MI]

sheeeeeeeeeshhhhh.
 
My current firearms are from:

Finland (20)
Germany
Itlay
USA
Romania (AK for sale)
Argentina

I have great respect for American guns and would proudly shoot or own a Colt, Ruger, Winchester.....
 
dang lots of replies lol but ill throw my .2cents on the table anyways!

depends on what you buy LOL i do have an XD made by springfield but i think they outsource them to croatia or something?. anything from china is junk, UNLESS! its an AK or SKS. if you buy a norinco M1A you need to be taken out and shot that is just wrong.

bolt action rifles, unless its a C&R, im buying american, why not? i dont make a million bucks a year so H&H's are out of the picture and a Remington, Winchester or Ruger will be just as if not more accurate than any european bolt maker in the same price range. CZ is about the only exception. Brownings now which i beleve is an american gun company (i think they are owned by someone iirc are made in Japan) doesnt matter im not a huge fan of them anyways.

Pistols, not a big deal here, again it comes down to what you want or need to use it for. i refuse to purchase tauraus firearms. dont know why lol just do. not a huge fan of brazilian firearms. Revolvers Smith has that market pretty much in there pocket, next to ruger. Semiautos if its plastic(polymear) its a reinvitened wheel glock had the first one and every one followed suite. so take your pick on these they are all the same lol i have an XD and a Glock and the only diff is the grip angle.

The biggest point here is that all firearms are MANMADE and will eventully something is going to break on them with use. just some break more than others :D
 
Ok since it is really hard to buy something %100 USA made anymore.
How about buying firearms from countries that actually allow the RKBA?

Yes:
USA
Philippines
Brazil
Argentina

No / not sure
UK no
Austria ??
China no
Croatia ??
Czech republic ??
Russia ??

In my mind if you have to store you firearms at a shooting club you don't have the RKBA.
 
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