Mag-na-porting?
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That's an interesting question. My wife has 2-1/2" J-frame 357 that she generally runs 38+p's out of. I don't have a similar non-ported 357 to compare it to, but I will say that when I clean it, there is generally fouling on both sides of the front sight. It's hard to imagine that the fouling isn't accompanied by some redirected blast, but I've never noticed it when shooting. I have to imagine that if you held the gun low and close to you when firing, that you would notice it.
I do like the Mag-na-porting because it really does keep the muzzle down. With magnum loads you can really tell that most of the recoil is coming straight into your palm.
Mo
I do like the Mag-na-porting because it really does keep the muzzle down. With magnum loads you can really tell that most of the recoil is coming straight into your palm.
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i had a 629 trail boss its a 3 inch 44 magnum magnaported, never again! it was with out a dought the loudest hand gun i have owned, it was a realy nice gun but i would rather be kicked a little harder , yea i know you should always wear ear plugs, but you shouldnt have to put them in to shoot a rattle snake! hell if some one was breaking in my house i would want ear plugs with that gun! i traded it off and now i have 2 4 inch 29s and would never think of having them ported, just my thoughts on it take it or leave it, *csa*( i called it the hearing aid gun)
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Porting--Boo, hiss!
IMX, porting of any sort is the worst favor you can do to all the other people who shoot at the range with you--they get all the extra benefit of your enhanced noise and muzzle blast. It's a good way to not make friends, especially on a firearm that is on the loud side anyhow.
The ports collect crud and have to be cleaned. I had a revolver once that was ported. The bbl leaded in that revolver, and of course the ports leaded up something fierce and were a beast to clean.
Keeping the muzzle down in a pistol means that you absorb that much more of the pistol's recoil with yr hand, arm, shoulder, and back. I fail to see a benefit there.
If you "need" the ports for recoil control, because you're practicing with lots and lots of full-house rounds, IMHO, you're wasting powder with yr practice. Practice with light loads, much cheaper, easier on yr gun, easier on you, you can get much more practice in and it will enhance yr skills more because you don't get pounded by the recoil.
In all fairness: Positive things abt. ports: The Wby BOSS system is supposed to enhance accuracy. Anything that enhances accuracy meets with my approval. (But, the BOSS can be had with or without the porting!) Plus, ports certainly enhance the tacti-coolness of even the humblest of hunting rifles, to say nothing of the "sniper" variety.
Do you get the idea that I think that porting of any sort is a waste of time and money?
IMX, porting of any sort is the worst favor you can do to all the other people who shoot at the range with you--they get all the extra benefit of your enhanced noise and muzzle blast. It's a good way to not make friends, especially on a firearm that is on the loud side anyhow.
The ports collect crud and have to be cleaned. I had a revolver once that was ported. The bbl leaded in that revolver, and of course the ports leaded up something fierce and were a beast to clean.
Keeping the muzzle down in a pistol means that you absorb that much more of the pistol's recoil with yr hand, arm, shoulder, and back. I fail to see a benefit there.
If you "need" the ports for recoil control, because you're practicing with lots and lots of full-house rounds, IMHO, you're wasting powder with yr practice. Practice with light loads, much cheaper, easier on yr gun, easier on you, you can get much more practice in and it will enhance yr skills more because you don't get pounded by the recoil.
In all fairness: Positive things abt. ports: The Wby BOSS system is supposed to enhance accuracy. Anything that enhances accuracy meets with my approval. (But, the BOSS can be had with or without the porting!) Plus, ports certainly enhance the tacti-coolness of even the humblest of hunting rifles, to say nothing of the "sniper" variety.
Do you get the idea that I think that porting of any sort is a waste of time and money?
Stevie-Ray
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A Magnaported .45-70 barrel on my Contender definitely garnered me no friends at my indoor range. As a matter of fact, most would put their weapons down in disgust. It blew out the furnaces behind me, also.
But the gun was uncontrollable without it.
But the gun was uncontrollable without it.
Ohen Cepel
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I think their site is correct. It doesn't add any noise to the round. It's all there. However, the perceived noise to the shooter and those around him certainly goes up.
I'm not that big a fan of porting. I think most people should buy a less powerful weapon if they can't handle the one that they're porting. However, sometimes it does make some sense.
I'm not that big a fan of porting. I think most people should buy a less powerful weapon if they can't handle the one that they're porting. However, sometimes it does make some sense.
Standing Wolf
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Nope. Both perceived and muzzle flash are increased while perceived recoil is reduced.
Nearly all my center fire revolvers are Magnaported. All my carry center fire revolvers are Magnaported. If I ever need to clear leather, I'm going to care about speed and accuracy, not light and noise.
By the nature of how porting works it will add flash from the ports and change the nature of the direction of the sound.
In other words, more noise to the sides and rear than a non ported gun, and hot gases with flash from the porting.
It is designed to both reduce felt recoil and muzzle jump - when done right , it does do just that.
In other words, more noise to the sides and rear than a non ported gun, and hot gases with flash from the porting.
It is designed to both reduce felt recoil and muzzle jump - when done right , it does do just that.
I've never found shooting next to my wife's Mag-na-ported J-frame any more obnoxious than shooting next to a standard 357. I imagine that this is mostly due to the angle of the cuts. They really do blow most of the blast up.
Contrast that with a comped SLR-95 that used to own. Since the ports were on all sides of the barrel, it was completely obnoxious to everyone around (though quite a bit of fun for the shooter).
Mo
Contrast that with a comped SLR-95 that used to own. Since the ports were on all sides of the barrel, it was completely obnoxious to everyone around (though quite a bit of fun for the shooter).
Mo
Years ago, I sent my Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 Mag. to MagnaPort. Seemed to tame it some. More pleasant to shoot, so it seemed.
I've only shot it twice WITHOUT ear muffs. Once at a nice medium Mule deer, and once at a coyote. Don't recall any different sound problems than with other heavy handguns I own.
As for "range time," anyone who comes to the range and sits at a firing bench who DOES NOT have good ear and eye protection, deserves to be reminded how stupid he is.
The many ranges at which I've shot, all the shooters wore good ear protection, and weren't bothered by my MagnaPorted .44 Mag.
L.W.
I've only shot it twice WITHOUT ear muffs. Once at a nice medium Mule deer, and once at a coyote. Don't recall any different sound problems than with other heavy handguns I own.
As for "range time," anyone who comes to the range and sits at a firing bench who DOES NOT have good ear and eye protection, deserves to be reminded how stupid he is.
The many ranges at which I've shot, all the shooters wore good ear protection, and weren't bothered by my MagnaPorted .44 Mag.
L.W.
the perceived noise to the shooter and those around him certainly goes up.....is it perceived or actual???
if one was deaf would the dB level actually be higher?? if measured with a device?
" Most magnum rifles will record a sound level of approximately 160
decibels with no muzzle brake installed. The average muzzle brake will increase this sound level by 11 to 15 decibels."
http://activecamo.com/ATSwebsite/AboutMuzzleBreaks.html
the info at the above link says "rifles will record" i know rifles dont record...i assume they mean a recording device can measure an increase in decibles when a rifle is fired with a muzzle brake. maybe they are deliberatly lying?? i dont know.
so is the sound actually/and percievably louder..ie more decibels?? peoples ears may perceive different things.
if one was deaf would the dB level actually be higher?? if measured with a device?
" Most magnum rifles will record a sound level of approximately 160
decibels with no muzzle brake installed. The average muzzle brake will increase this sound level by 11 to 15 decibels."
http://activecamo.com/ATSwebsite/AboutMuzzleBreaks.html
the info at the above link says "rifles will record" i know rifles dont record...i assume they mean a recording device can measure an increase in decibles when a rifle is fired with a muzzle brake. maybe they are deliberatly lying?? i dont know.
so is the sound actually/and percievably louder..ie more decibels?? peoples ears may perceive different things.
is there any difference in a ported barrel like on a revolver and a compensator like sone some target oriented semi-autos???
on a ported barrel the bullet is still in teh barrel....confined in a cylinder or sorts with little space.
is a bullet in the same state as well in a compensator??? or is it in free space???
on a ported barrel the bullet is still in teh barrel....confined in a cylinder or sorts with little space.
is a bullet in the same state as well in a compensator??? or is it in free space???
Contrast that with a comped SLR-95 that used to own. Since the ports were on all sides of the barrel, it was completely obnoxious to everyone around (though quite a bit of fun for the shooter).
i dont know if what you say is true or not. but if vents or ports were on all sides of the barrel (or was this added on the the end of a barrel??) woulndt teh claimed extra nouse be equal in all directions?? an not necessarily louder on thes sides??? if at all???
i dont know if what you say is true or not. but if vents or ports were on all sides of the barrel (or was this added on the the end of a barrel??) woulndt teh claimed extra nouse be equal in all directions?? an not necessarily louder on thes sides??? if at all???
"By the nature of how porting works it will add flash from the ports and change the nature of the direction of the sound. "
change the nature of the direction??? or change the nature and direction???
what does change the nature of the direction mean??
change the nature of the direction??? or change the nature and direction???
what does change the nature of the direction mean??
"In other words, more noise to the sides and rear than a non ported gun"
when the powder explodes in a revolver are there some 'things' travelling faster then the bullet?? because of their light mass??? small powder particles etc?? do these reach the ports first and escape and create (extra?) noise?
is there somethign about teh small diameter of the ports that creates more noise/pressure like pinching a hose pipe or something??
when the powder explodes in a revolver are there some 'things' travelling faster then the bullet?? because of their light mass??? small powder particles etc?? do these reach the ports first and escape and create (extra?) noise?
is there somethign about teh small diameter of the ports that creates more noise/pressure like pinching a hose pipe or something??
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