Man arrestedd for Rubberband ball...

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I got arrested this week at a checkpoint!

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I was departing a small commuter airport in Southern California last week and I found myself in jail! Here's the story with the facts, and without any "emotional hype."

About two years ago I made a big, rubber band ball. It's bigger than a softball, but not as big as a basketball. It's made of 100% rubber bands, and the core is nothing but knotted rubber bands. It's been in the trunk of a car that I own and keep down there for most of that time.

I decided to bring it home to Anchorage to work on more, and that proved to be a bad decision. I threw it in my carry-on and headed off to the airport. When I got there, I "dinged" at the metal detector while wearing a belt that has never alarmed before. I removed the belt and went through a second time, and "passed." As I got through I noticed that my carry-on bag was open and being rummaged through. The TSA agent held up my rubber band ball and asked, "what's this?" I replied, "it's my rubber band ball. What are you doing looking through my bag?" The Sheriff that was standing there said, "you gave implied consent to search your bag by coming through the checkpoint." I retorted, "you need to ask me first though, and I object to your digging through it out here. If you want to look in there, we need to do it in private."

So the LEO grabbed my bag and he, myself, the TSA "boss," and a TSA agent went behind a curtain. They dug through my stuff and took the rubber band ball away for further screening. They came back with the rubber band ball and told the "TSA boss" that it was positive for flammable residue and that it had something metal at the core. He started up at me accusing me of wrongdoing and saying things about it being a "precursor" or a "trigger." I told him to "quit running at the mouth" and that it was "nothing of the sort." I explained that it had been in the trunk of my car for a long time and probably picked up a bit of oil or gas or something from that. I also told him that there was nothing at the core and that it was 100% rubber bands.

The cop started in on me, and I finally said, "look, I'll give you the ball. I just want to get on my flight." The TSA guy ignored me, and kept asking me what was in the center of the ball. I kept telling him it was nothing but rubber bands. The TSA took it away again and x-rayed it again and said there was something metallic in the center. I kept denying it and denying any wrong doing.

The cop then switched tactics and asked, "are you smuggling drugs?" I told him that was "outrageous" and produced my SIDA badge and my airline ID. I asked him if his question was serious. He started asking why I didn't have any checked luggage to which I replied, "Dude, I load bags all day. I know better than to check them." He again accused me of "smuggling something."

This had gone on for about 1/2 an hour and I knew the flight was leaving soon. I repeated, "you can have the rubber band ball. I just need to get home, so I need to get going." The LEO said, "you're not going anywhere." At that point, I knew I was in trouble.

He pulled out his pocket-sized flashlight and said, "take off your sunglasses, I think you're on drugs." I said, "what?!" He replied, "I am ordering you to take off your sunglasses." So I did. He shined the light in my eyes, and said, "Yep, you're on something. Anything you need to tell me?" I was incredulous. I said, "Look! I showed you my SIDA badge, I'm in the random drug test pool, I get tested regularly, I don't use drugs. Now or ever." He said, "I don't believe you. Turn around and put your right hand behind your back." He snapped on handcuffs and said I was under arrest for suspicion of being under the influence of a controlled substance.

The "TSA boss" practically wet his pants as he excitedly thanked the LEO for "taking care of me." I was led outside, put in the back seat and taken to jail. I've never been arrested before (in the US) so I didn't know what to expect.

We got to the station and I was put in a holding cell. I was there for a little less than an hour. The LEO came back and advised me that I would be held for a minimum of 12 hours for observation. He advised that I had to take a blood or urine test (my choice) and that when he got to the bottom of this that I'd be in jail for a long time. I just shrugged my shoulders. I wasn't afraid. I've been arrested in Indonesia on trumped up charges, and that's all that these were.

I picked blood test, so I was shackled at the ankles and cuffed at the wrists and lead out to the cop car again. We went to the hospital where they drew blood. They were nice to me. They got me a drink of water and didn't yell at me or cuss at me. (Unlike the cop.)

My blood tested clean...big surprise...then the cop got nice too. He said that he had to hold me for 12 hours but that I'd get out after that. When we got back to the jail they uncuffed me and unshackled me and were nicer. The cop asked if there was anything in the rubber band ball and I told him no. I told him to cut it open for all I cared. He took a big knife and cut it open and surprise...there was nothing but rubber bands.

The jailer told him that this was "stupid" and she told me that she was sorry but they did have to hold me for 12 hours but then she put me in my own cell (which I appreciated) and let me call my dad on the phone. She gave me some magazines to read in my cell, and also let me pick what to watch through the bars on the TV on the outside. She told me to call for her if I wanted the channels changed. It's stupid to say, but they didn't do that for anyone else. I asked for something to eat and was given a microwaved TV dinner that I gratefully devoured. I also got a styrofoam cup of Sunny Delight with my meal.

Other than that, jail sucked. There were bad people in there, and when I had to pee, I had to do it in front of a camera that I'm sure someone was watching. Sure enough, 12 hours later, I got a paper from them showing that the charges were dropped and I was let out the front door where my dad picked me up.

The next day, I flew out of LAX and didn't have any problems. I even wore the same belt through the metal detector and it didn't "ding." I did, however, leave my rubber band ball at home. It's not a ball anymore. It's just a big paper sack of cut up rubber bands.

Welcome to 2006 and your TSA. By the way, lest anyone question what I did to "bring this on myself"...note that I WAS NOT arrested for interfering with the TSA or with the LEO...because I DIDN'T. I was instead arrested on trumped up charges so that they could check out my rubber band ball that was a "trigger" or "precursor" and "contained something metallic" according to the TSA.

I have a SIDA badge so if it can happen to me...it could happen to ANY of you.

Link...

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=618629
 
what does SIDA stand for?

i cant stand the way power goes to peoples heads, i am always afraid something like that will happen to me with my rubber band ball.:what:
 
I just gotta ask.

Is this verified? I know you're a regular poster and wouldn't post something without checking it a bit. I guess I just answered my own question.

It's nice to know there are people looking out for us. I wish I knew where to find them.
 
I am gonna be honest and say it is not verified. However it would not suprise me. I found the link off of another gun forum. When I read the story I did not go through and read the rest of the thread.

I think SIDA is the ID from the authors home country? I am not sure though.
 
A quick Google search shows that SIDA stands for Security Identification Display Area. The SIDA badge provides unescorted access to the secured side of the Airport, including ramps and Air Operations Area (AOA).

The guy said that he loads bags all day so he obviously works at an airport.
 
6 year member, gives some credibility. He's lucky to get a private room, at the institutions up here people were packed in double capacity and more.

On another forum I had to debate half a dozen people when I said intoxication check-stops and seat-belt check-stops and helmet check-stops are wrong and bad. Up here if you refuse to incriminate yourself at the road-block you automatically go to jail with a minimum sentence.

People don't care about freedom:(
 
Yeah I thought the idea for dealing with any kind of lawful authority was to stroke egos and go out of your way to be docile and compliant. Even if you're completley innocent, they will annoy the hell out of you, so it's better to just keep quiet, and complain about it on the forums later.

Or should I raise a stink on principle? Will you guys visit me in jail? :)
 
Some of my friends and associates wonder why it is that i want absolutely nothing to do with flying or airports or the TSA or any of it. They should all read this. The TSA, etc., would rather check my shoes than do anything in the least useful. What do those initials stand for again?...Thousands Standing Around?...yeah, that's it. After the next real incident, they'll change it to They Shoulda' Acted, but by then it'll be (naturally) after the horse has left the building.
 
uhhhhh

I am tired of the system. It is 10:31 central. I am going outside and rioting right now. I advise that you all do the same thing. Turn over some cars and swing from street signs. I am sure more people will join you once they see that you are rioting.
 
I think the only purpose of the TSA is to make it LOOK like they are actually doing something about security. I don't feel security is one bit safer than pre-TSA, I just now have to pack my shaving kit in with my checked baggage so they can be lost together.
They do a decent job of making sure everyone is completely disarmed and defenseless should someone actually try to take over a flight
 
My wife & I were held at the airport because we had to many drugs. My wife had a Kidney Transplant and takes $2100 worth of drugs a month. I asked the lady if she wanted my wife to drop her pants and show her the scars. She asked if the drugs were authorized. I said do you see the doctors name on the drugs. She had to call a supervisor to release us.
 
Hmmm, the bad thing is not that this story is unverified. The bad thing is that TSA is such a reservoir of incompetent buffoonery that you can easily believe this story is true, even if it is completely false.

I am generally supportive of most people working in government. The vast majority of them that I have met are often more concerned about individual freedoms and fair play than most of the people who criticize them. TSA is the exception that proves the rule though. They are a cancer on the face of government.
 
This sort of thing drives me nuts! I've been illegally searched and detained before, and subsequently released with no charges. I didn't have the balls to raise hell and sue someone, but I think next time I might. Law enforcement should have a health fear of treating innocent people like crap.:mad:
 
DoubleTapDrew said:
I think the only purpose of the TSA is to make it LOOK like they are actually doing something about security.

As someone who works for the TSA, I know how true this is. While I legally can't say, it's doesn't take a genius to sit and watch to figure out what's going on. There are procedures and policies in place that boggle the mind. I think to myself many times "Do they honestly think this is going to stop anyone?" It's sad.

You want to read a great book on the matter, that goes indepth into TSA fallacy, read Unsafe at Any Altitude

Bartholomew Roberts said:
TSA is the exception that proves the rule though. They are a cancer on the face of government.
Ouch! I hate the TSA as much as the next person, but I hardly consider myself a "cancer."
 
Ouch! I hate the TSA as much as the next person, but I hardly consider myself a "cancer."

Well, you seem to acknowledge that TSA is not effective at providing security. So what do you call an agency that harasses innocent travellers while providing no discernible public benefit?
 
Go Mr. Roberts!

Hey, wasn't that a movie, "Mr. Roberts"? The TSA is as useless as nipples on a boar, as my grandpa used to say. Only he didn't say nipples. Anyhow, I flew with my wife and son to Az. last year and was subjected to overpaid (minimum wage is too much if you can't perform well) government employees who don't know their own regulations and broke the law by demanding I hand over the keys to my handgun case while they looked through it out of my presence.

Notice the several incidents recently have all been dealt with by passenger action and observation ON THE AIRCRAFT! WHY THE BLOODY HELL are these people allowed aboard if we are under the watchful eye of the TSA?

The most recent was a dozen arab men getting out of theoir seats at once "to pray". They were reported to flight crew by a passenger and escorted off the plane. They should have been jailed for creating a public disturbance.
 
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