Marchers say gringos, not illegals, have to go

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No, in the end it's about loyalty to American values, not whether you were born on American soil. A lot of nominal citizens don't measure up--and that's because there's a problem with "birthright citizenship"--and right now neither does the U.S. Government. As for the flag-wavers, being Mexican is a state of mind. In their hearts many of these people are citizens of Mexico and always will be, just as too many of our elites fancy themselves "citizens of the world."
 
Either way and whatever...

I won't be eating Mexican food. My small part of what will hopefully grow as a boycott of those that want us out on grounds of race.

Plenty of Thai and Indian places here instead.
 
So you honestly are buying La Raza's BS?
You honestly believe that Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in general want to kick everyone out of the Southwest?
Wow. I guess La Raza has succeeded.
If anything does hit the fan, it will be because people have succumbed to extremist language and rhetoric.

EDIT: I hope you dont drive a Nissan or VW. You might need to go sell your car.
 
If you are asking me what car I drive it's a Toyota Tundra and a Toyota Prius.
The Tundra helps me earn money and the Prius helps me spend less of it, plus it gets odd looks at the range car park.

Tundra = made in Indiana.
Prius = Japan.

I think the only thing I believe is what I see and those photos don't look photoshopped to me.
 
So you honestly are buying La Raza's BS?
You honestly believe that Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in general want to kick everyone out of the Southwest?
Wow. I guess La Raza has succeeded.
If anything does hit the fan, it will be because people have succumbed to extremist language and rhetoric.

Considering La Raza is the name of one of the many Mexican-Regional format radio stations (and don't tell me it means "the people",it means "the race"), I'd say we have a huge issue with the overt tribalism and non-assimilationist attitudes of the MAJORITY of these illegals.

We have a serious problem.

You can look the other way until it walks into your neighborhood.

What happens if the economy stops producing these "jobs Americans won't do" and we suddenly have 11-20 million unemployed, ethnically cooperative foreign nationals concentrated in a few of our states?

Those of you who are dismissive of these protests are not paying attention.

Foreign nationals are directly influencing our political process and the best interests of Americans are being subverted.
 
If you are asking me what car I drive it's a Toyota Tundra and a Toyota Prius.
The Tundra helps me earn money and the Prius helps me spend less of it, plus it gets odd looks at the range car park.

Tundra = made in Indiana.
Prius = Japan.

I think the only thing I believe is what I see and those photos don't look photoshopped to me.
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You're safe then.. many Nissans and VWs are made in Mexico :)

And yes.. you do see people in those pictures waving Mexican flags and excercising their 1st amendmant rights. They could be waving Nazi flags if they felt like. Messing with the flag pole might have been illegal though..

Either way, the Irony I see here is all those kids protesting and waving Mexican flags are doing it in America. Our constitution protects their freedom of expression and right to assemble.

Great country we live in :D
 
I have 2 businesses in Houston, Tx. 1, I purchased and 1 My partner and I started. When we actually checked/verified the I.D.'s for the I9 forms we lost the whole production staff at the purchased company, 100%! I have turned down over 200 applicants in 2 years, due to fake I.D.'s.
I received death threats from a couple of the fired workers. Neither HPD or La Migra would do more than take a statement,I even had recorded threats. Immigration has never even acknowledged my calls, letters or emails(over 50 attempts to contact them) to date. I had to handle the problem at a private level.:rolleyes:
Over the last few days my staff have had several lengthy discussions about the recent protests. The vatos locos forget that my Spanish is better than theirs. So, I get a pretty good take on the average Hispanics opinions on the subject. Most feel they have a right to be here, for their kids to be educated in Spanish and they owe as much loyalty to Mexico as the U.S. Even the ones born here are against stopping the illegals.
 
If you look closely at the first picture I posted, the one with the grinning kids, you will see they are outside a high-school.
Not sure on the legality of interfering with a school flagpole but make no mistake, that wasn't a private pole or one outside a mall, it was government property.
 
This is a dumb thread - everyone is getting worked up about the .01% who advocate extremism, not the rest of the bunch who want to be in America because it is better.
 
Either way, the Irony I see here is all those kids protesting and waving Mexican flags are doing it in America. Our constitution protects their freedom of expression and right to assemble.
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You call it irony, I call it effrontery.

You're right, they COULD be waving Nazi flags and when you call yourself "the race" it would be stunningly appropriate.
 
You can look the other way until it walks into your neighborhood.
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Until what walks into my neighboorhood? Mexicans?
Hello.. I live in San Diego. My girl is from Tijuana. I eat Carne Asada Burritos more often than I eat hamburgers. I go to Rosarito to chill for the weekend.
A quarter of the cars I see on the road have plates from Baja California. Everyone at the school I go to ( http://www.swc.cc.ca.us/ )speaks Spanish. Whatever "it" is.. it's already here and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.


What happens if the economy stops producing these "jobs Americans won't do" and we suddenly have 11-20 million unemployed, ethnically cooperative foreign nationals concentrated in a few of our states?

Those of you who are dismissive of these protests are not paying attention.

Foreign nationals are directly influencing our political process and the best interests of Americans are being subverted
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The ones that are here.. are here. It's ridiculous to think millions of people could be rounded up and imprisoned or deported. For one thing, how would you round up illegals without violating the rights of Hispanic Americans who are citizens? It'd be an absolute disaster.

All we can do now is cut our losses and start actually enforcing border security and punishing employers who hire illegals before things get much worse than they already are. You'd think we'd be able to do that, especially with Bush constantly harping about national security and nearly having control of all three branches of gov't
 
This is a dumb thread - everyone is getting worked up about the .01% who advocate extremism, not the rest of the bunch who want to be in America because it is better.
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.01%?

You're sure of that?

You call it "extremism" but how about calling it at best divided loyalties and at worst allegiance to an alien flag?

America is embattled on many fronts these days. The last thing we need at this juncture is millions more people INSIDE our borders who have a shakey loyalty to this nation.
 
The ones that are here.. are here. It's ridiculous to think millions of people could be rounded up and imprisoned or deported. For one thing, how would you round up illegals without violating the rights of Hispanic Americans who are citizens? It'd be an absolute disaster.
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It might be what you call a "disaster," but not as much a disaster as what lies on the horizon with a nation within a nation, a nation that thinks it's "entitled."

If and when we really need to neutralize the aliens, we can and will. And it won't matter how many are here.
 
That's ridiculous.
You would actually support violating the rights of American citizens to weed out illegals?
The Border Patrol here got a lot of flak awhile back because they were getting on the Trolleys looking for illegals. They ended up harrassing a bunch of American citizens who happened to be Hispanic. That ended quick.

What if the gov't said "We need to round up all the guns so we can determine which ones are owned legally and which ones need to be confiscated. We're doing this for your own good because violence is out of control."

I bet you'd be flipping out.
 
Hmmm, Spanish settlement of the SW and West is well established history. Recent America for Americans sentiment leads to a return Norte America to the "original settlers" backlash. Why is anyone acting so suprised? We complain that Americans can't remember history that goes back more than 48 hrs and yet we don't seem to remember the complex history of the SW.
 
I have to ask, crazed_ss: WHERE do you live in San Diego? i was stationed at 32nd St, and walked through the barrio quite a few times. Only ever felt safe once...

The other issue that you're not looking at is that the illegals move away from the border, fast as they can. Check into how many illegals have died at 29 Palms, on the artilery range...
 
When I was in the Marines, I stayed in Oceanside and Escondido.

I work on NAS North Island now. I've lived on E Street in Chula Vista which is ... then I moved to really nice area in Mission Valley. Now I live in the city.. 30th and Adams ave. It's urban, but it's a nice mixed area.

But yea.. I wouldnt walk through Barrio Logan either. A lot of gangs there. I wouldnt walk around the skyline area either and Im black.. too many gangs there too. :)
 
G.A.S.P.

GASP? That's the Great American Suicide Plan. Relax folks. Everything is going according to the "plan."

It seems that an invasion by barbarians had a lot to do with the end of Rome. But Rome's downfall was from within. They committed suicide just as we are doing.

Somebody pointed out that our national policy is that we don't take action until it's too late. True. We seem to be trying to do something about Islamic Extremism before it's too late, but there seems to be great opposition to that action everyday.

Apparently the rise and suicide of great societies is as natural as climate change. We try to do something about it, but it happens naturally.

Just as soon as "they" take over the SW and wreck the money trees that the gringoes have planted and tended, "they" will be going home because "they" are starving here.

Enjoy our last GASP.

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AGAIN -- this is not a backlash against Hispanics, Mexicans, or immigrants.

Those of us who are anti-illegal-immigrant are so for a variety of reasons:
--they have broken the law
--they have violated our national sovereignty
--they are not properly screened for infectious diseases (and yes, we HAVE seen a rise in TB, whooping cough, and other diseases in areas where they cluster)
--they work for under-the-table wages in industries that are now decimated of skilled American workers

But most of all, what this rally showed us was that (a) there is a small vocal assimilaton-rejecting irredentist* faction of the the Mexican nationals and Mexican-Americans here in America and (b) that faction enjoys support from the Mexican government, illegal population, and enough Mexican-Americans to influence the political process.

There is a BIG difference between marching in support of immigrant rights and marching in support of "California was STOLEN from my people and we're taking it back."




*irredentist: One who advocates the recovery of territory culturally or historically related to one's nation but now subject to a foreign government. You know, like the Sudetenland.
 
GASP

My GASP is to find a pile of illegals, I suspect that the majority of wetbacks in my workplace (That have to communicate with us ENGLISH speakers by sign language) are illegals. I will then start casting Power Word Kill, what do you mean ACP isn't a word? :D If these upstart extremists start any monkey business around me, there will be blood.
 
http://m-w.com/dictionary/wetback
Main Entry: wet·back
Pronunciation: 'wet-"bak
Function: noun
Etymology: from the practice of wading or swimming the Rio Grande where it forms the U.S.-Mexico border
usually offensive : a Mexican who enters the U.S. illegally

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetback
Wetback is a derogatory term for a Mexican or Central American who illegally enters the United States of America from its southern border, often by either swimming or wading across the Rio Grande. "Wetback" is also a blanket term sometimes used to describe anyone of the Hispanic/Mestizo race.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=wetback
wet·back ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wtbk)
n. Offensive Slang
Used as a disparaging term for a Mexican, especially a laborer who crosses the U.S. border illegally.


It's an insult. I thought such language wasnt acceptable here.. but whatever.
 
Well, if you're an illegal river-crosser and it offends you to be called a 'wetback',
you might try entering the dry, legal way.
Problem solved.
Biker:)
 
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