Marine ccw 1911

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hello.my name is keith and in few months I will be turning 21 and have wanted a 1911 for some time now. I have looked at many of them but simply don't know which to get. I would like a full 5in barrel and trit sights. Im a armorer by trade in the corps so guns are no stranger to me. Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
If you want a "starter" model of sorts, look at Rock Island Armory. Everything I've read and seen of them is top notch. And for less than $500 at that. I'm looking for a 9 mil. tactical model from then now. Or look at Springfield Armory, Colt, S&W, Para, Ruger, Sig. or a host of others
 
I like the range officer by sa but I dont know if its my best choice.
I think those adjustable sights on the Range Officer will not be what you want.

You didn't list a price range, so here you go.

Les Baer UTC
http://www.lesbaer.com/1911UltTact.html

Ed Brown Special Forces
http://www.edbrown.com/specialforces.htm

There are lots of 1911 makers. Not everybody makes pistols with night sights, though many do. There are after market sights available, but those adjustable sights on the Range Officer will really limit your options.
 
Mmmm, that baer special forces always makes me drool. Tax time maybe?

But knowing military pay scales, he isn't looking to spend 2k.

I'd think Springfield would be a good place to start. Or as a previous poster mentioned, a rock island armory 1911. I've heard nothing but praise of their guns and the price is right.
 
Since you said you like it already, the Range Officer would be a good choice given your parameters. The adjustable sight would either need to be dehorned or swapped to a fixed sight. Since you want tritium, if you get an RO I would recommend the Dawson Precision 020-040 front sight and a Harrison rear sight. I have both but only went with the tritium out front (personal preference, Harrisons are available with tritium).

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You could also consider the Loaded, or maybe an STI Trojan if you can spend a bit more. STI makes great 1911s for reasonable prices.

I went with an RO over the Loaded because I didn't want front cocking serrations and I wanted the extra fitting, done in the USA, in the RO.
 
I like the les baer, just way out of my price range. Looking to spend less than $800. the ro has everything I want except for a trit fixed sights.
 
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The Colt Lightweight XSE Government would be a great choice. It's just a tad outside of your price range at around $900-1000 depending on where you shop, but if you order it through the MCX at Lejeune they won't charge you tax or transfer fees unless something has changed since I left.

A buddy of mine had one and man that thing was fun to shoot. I threw it in my Crossbreed and loaded up with 9 rounds of 45 I could barely tell it was there. My advice. Wait another paycheck and get a Colt.

Springfield is another great choice. I've been looking at the MC Operator and TRP as a carry gun myself.

A question for you though. Is this your first pistol?
 
I don't know for sure, but i don't know if you'll find one under 800 with factory night sights. A set of Mepro or Trijicon's aren't terribly expensive though. I think more important would be to get a good reliable pistol with the slide cut for the sights you want.
 
How about a SIG 1911? You can buy the TACPAC "kit" for around $770 without the rail and $800 with it. You get three magazines with the non-railed gun (two with the railed version) and a holster with both, and better yet, you even get 25 lpi front strap checkering. It does have an external extractor which is an aesthetic issue for some but the whole pistol comes with a durable black Nitron finish. You even get a functional "tactical bump" type grip safety.

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/1911-tacpac.aspx


Another option would be a Kimber Custom II at a little over $700.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/custom-ii/custom-ii

Both the SIG and Kimber may be all you need for many years, but if you decide to "upgrade" then you could do that too by changing little parts here and there. Of the two, the SIG is the better option if you don't mind an external extractor.
 
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It is. Turn 21 in september. Want a cc that I can take to the range.
Any reason in particular you are set on a Government length pistol? Looks, preference or have you heard they are more reliable?

I personally would rather carry a Commander than a full size. The Colt LW Commander XSE would make a great carry weapon and would also be more than fun at the range.

What range do you go to? I use to live just part Flatwoods in Swansboro when I was stationed there.
 
I prefer the full length for better accuracy and less muzzle climb. I've gone to a few ranges back home but none in the jville area. 25-30 meters is the distance I would mostly shoot.
 
I prefer the full length for better accuracy and less muzzle climb. I've gone to a few ranges back home but none in the jville area. 25-30 meters is the distance I would mostly shoot.
For self defense, I am much more accurate with a commander than a full size. Follow on shots are much quicker and so is regaining the sights due to the shorter radius. With the right ammo and some practice, you shouldn't even notice a difference in the two. If you aren't shooting for bulls eye, the government isn't going to show much improvement over the commander. The commander is also a bit easier to sit down with it tucked inside your belt.

That said, the shorter barrel is really the only advantage more than personal preference. You should try to head out to Sportsman's Lodge and see what they have to rent. If they still have them, there should be a few 1911s there to rent. Maybe you could get your hands on each and get a good idea of what I'm talking about.
 
I just bought a Remington 1911 R1 off of Gun Broker. Its the first 1911 I have owned that has not been a Colt. So far, I have been extremely impressed with the Remington. Its pretty traditional with a few upgrades (beveled magazine well, three dot sights, lowered ejection port, loaded chamber indicator, match barrel and SS bushing). The fit, finish and function of these guns are awesome for the price. If Remington stays in the 1911 business, the prices on these guns will definitely go up. If not, they will be a great collector piece.

There has been some post about where they are made. This is from their web site (FAQ).

Where is the 1911 R1 made?

These guns are built in our manufacturing facility in Ilion, NY.

If the price, quality and backing is there, this is a non-issue for me. About half of my modern guns are German made. But it is nice to have a USA built 1911 that didn't break the bank.
 
Buying a first 1911 is kind of like buying a first guitar.

You can go to Wal-Mart and spend $80 and come away with a Silvertone or a Linden or some other made-in-China guitar-like object. Once you sit down and start playing it, you'll almost immediately start running into major shortcomings. It will probably be poorly constructed. It will certainly sound like crap. It'll probably be really hard to keep in tune. It won't have a good action, and so will be difficult to play. You won't want to practice with it, and hence won't ever get good. You'll stop playing, and the cheap guitar will sit in the corner for months until you finally throw it away, because there's no resale on an $80 Wal-Mart special. You may as well have set that $80 on fire for all the good it did you.

On the other hand, you could go to a music store, and get a low-end Martin or a Taylor D110 or something similar in the $500-600 range. You're much less likely to have problems with it. The softer action will make it easier to learn on, it'll be easier to keep in tune, and it will definitely sound better. You'll get better, faster, because you won't be fighting the instrument. Practice will be more fun, so you'll practice more often. Finally, if you decide that the guitar isn't for you, you can post it on Craigslist and someone will give you $400 for it, and you won't be out much more than the Wal-Mart special would have cost you.

Now apply this to guns.

For a first 1911, I'd recommend jumping in the deep end of the pool. Budget $800-1000, get a 5" steel-frame .45ACP from a major manufacturer, and go shoot the finish off it.

Specifically, look at the Colt O1991, the Springfield Armory MC Operator, and the Smith and Wesson SW1911 'E' series.

-C
 
I always liked full size but I guess I know what your talking about.

If you like the full sized pistols, by all means get one. I'm sure it will serve you well. I'd just hate to see you end up with something that doesn't work out because of misinformation. ;)
 
I have no experience with 1911s, but everything I've read suggests that Tauruses are generally overlooked and underrated. Their other pistols have their issues, but their 1911s seem to be much better made and much more reliable.

And a big oo-RAH to ya -- I'm an active-duty CDR/O-5. :)
 
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