Marine sniper credited with longest confirmed kill in Iraq

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AR RAMADI, Iraq (Jan. 02, 2005) -- Seen through a twenty-power spot scope, terrorists scrambled to deliver another mortar round into the tube. Across the Euphrates River from a concealed rooftop, the Marine sniper breathed gently and then squeezed a few pounds of pressure to the delicate trigger of the M40A3 sniper rifle in his grasp.

The rifle's crack froze the booming Fallujah battle like a photograph. As he moved the bolt back to load another round of 7.62mm ammunition, the sniper's spotter confirmed the terrorist went down from the shot mere seconds before the next crack of the rifle dropped another.

It wasn't the sniper's first kill in Iraq, but it was one for the history books.

On Nov. 11, 2004, while coalition forces fought to wrest control of Fallujah from a terrorist insurgency, Marine scout snipers with Company B, 1st Battalion, 23rd Marine Regiment, 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit, applied their basic infantry skills and took them to a higher level.

"From the information we have, our chief scout sniper has the longest confirmed kill in Iraq so far," said Capt. Shayne McGinty, weapons platoon commander for "Bravo" Co. "In Fallujah there were some bad guys firing mortars at us and he took them out from more than 1,000 yards."

During the battle for the war-torn city, 1/23 Marine scout snipers demonstrated with patience, fearless initiative and wits that well-trained Marines could be some of the deadliest weapons in the world.

"You really don't have a threat here until it presents itself," said Sgt. Herbert B. Hancock, chief scout sniper, 1/23, and a 35-year-old police officer from Bryan, Texas, whose specialized training and skill helped save the lives of his fellow Marines during the battle. "In Fallujah we really didn't have that problem because it seemed like everybody was shooting at us. If they fired at us we just dropped them."

Stepping off on day one of the offensive from the northern edge of the Fallujah peninsula, the Marine reservists of 1/23, with their scout snipers, moved to secure a little island, but intense enemy fire near the bridgeheads limited their advance. Insurgents littered the city, filtering in behind their positions with indirect mortar and sniper fire.

"The insurgents started figuring out what was going on and started hitting us from behind, hitting our supply lines," said Hancock in his syrupy Texas drawl. "Originally we set up near a bridge and the next day we got a call on our radio that our company command post was receiving sniper fire. We worked our way back down the peninsula trying to find the sniper, but on the way down we encountered machinegun fire and what sounded like grenade launchers or mortars from across the river."

With a fire team of grunts pinned down nearby, Hancock and his spotter, Cpl. Geoffrey L. Flowers, a May 2004 graduate of Scout Sniper School, helped them out by locating the source of the enemy fire.

"After locating the gun position we called in indirect fire to immediate suppress that position and reduced it enough so we could also punch forward and get into a house," explained Hancock. "We got in the house and started to observe the area from which the insurgents were firing at us. They hit us good for about twenty minutes and were really hammering us. Our indirect fire (landed on) them and must have been effective because they didn't shoot anymore after that."

Continuing south down the peninsula to link up with the Bravo Co. command post, Hancock and Flowers next set up on a big building, taking a couple shots across the river at some suspected enemy spotters in vehicles.

"The insurgents in the vehicles were spotting for the mortar rounds coming from across the river so we were trying to locate their positions to reduce them as well as engage the vehicles," said Hancock. "There were certain vehicles in areas where the mortars would hit. They would show up and then stop and then the mortars would start hitting us and then the vehicles would leave so we figured out that they were spotters. We took out seven of those guys in one day."

Later, back at the company command post, enemy mortar rounds once again began to impact.

"There were several incoming rockets and mortars to our compound that day and there was no way the enemy could have seen it directly, so they probably had some spotters out there," said 22-year-old Flowers who is a college student from Pearland, Texas.

" Our (company commander) told us to go find where the mortars were coming from and take them out so we went back out," remembered Hancock. "We moved south some more and linked up with the rear elements of our first platoon. Then we got up on a building and scanned across the river. We looked out of the spot scope and saw about three to five insurgents manning a 120mm mortar tube. We got the coordinates for their position and set up a fire mission. We decided that when the rounds came in that I would engage them with the sniper rifle. We got the splash and there were two standing up looking right at us. One had a black (outfit) on. I shot and he dropped. Right in front of him another got up on his knees looking to try and find out where we were so I dropped him too. After that our mortars just hammered the position, so we moved around in on them."

The subsequent fire for effect landed right on the insurgent mortar position.

"We adjusted right about fifty yards where there were two other insurgents in a small house on the other side of the position," said Flowers. "There was some brush between them and the next nearest building about 400 yards south of where they were at and we were about 1,000 yards from them so I guess they thought we could not spot them. Some grunts were nearby with binoculars but they could not see them, plus they are not trained in detailed observation the way we are. We know what to look for such as target indicators and things that are not easy to see."

Hancock and Flowers then scanned several areas that they expected fire from, but the enemy mortars had silenced.

"After we had called in indirect fire and after all the adjustments from our mortars, I got the final 8-digit grid coordinates for the enemy mortar position, looked at our own position using GPS and figured out the distance to the targets we dropped to be 1,050 yards," said Flowers with a grin. "This time we were killing terrorism from more than 1,000 yards."

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/main5/81846E3645B6298285256F7D006744CD?opendocument
 
Kudos for the professionalism of these U.S. snipers. And I'm happy to see at least one of them is a fellow Texan. (Though I'm a little bit surprised that the "longest confirmed kill" didn't occur with a .50 of some sort.)

Question for vets - when we're fighting a war against terrorists like this, is it REALLY a good idea to completely identify the U.S. personnel involved, including full name and even home town?
 
Great shooting! I guess that the .50 rifles would be "overkill" for an urban environment - you wouldn't have the long ranges for which they're best suited. IIRC, the record for the longest successful sniper shot in Afghanistan was set by a Canadian sniper with a .50 BMG bolt-action rifle at something over 2,500 yards! :what:
 
I salute the US Marines and the snipers! Good going guys!

We need to fill that country absolutely FULL of snipers. They are VERY effective at what they do!
 
Question for vets - when we're fighting a war against terrorists like this, is it REALLY a good idea to completely identify the U.S. personnel involved, including full name and even home town?
I've never really understood this. Does anyone think that Islamic insurgents are going to come halfway around the world to track down this one individual or his family? I think if they are actually successful in infiltrating into the US, they have much bigger goals in mind. Why would they blow their own cover and risk arrrest to seek out one sniper reservist when they could wreck complete havoc on a much larger scale? Plus, if you really wanted names of soldiers in Iraq, all you have to do is get online with the thousands of small-town newspapers in the country that publish articles on local boys serving over there, or church/community websites that do the same.
 
Question for vets - when we're fighting a war against terrorists like this, is it REALLY a good idea to completely identify the U.S. personnel involved, including full name and even home town?

rockjock responded:
I've never really understood this. Does anyone think that Islamic insurgents are going to come halfway around the world to track down this one individual or his family? I think if they are actually successful in infiltrating into the US, they have much bigger goals in mind. Why would they blow their own cover and risk arrrest to seek out one sniper reservist when they could wreck complete havoc on a much larger scale? Plus, if you really wanted names of soldiers in Iraq, all you have to do is get online with the thousands of small-town newspapers in the country that publish articles on local boys serving over there, or church/community websites that do the same.

Thye don't have to come halfway 'round the world...they're already here. The Holy Land Fondation was located a couple miles from my front door. (FYI, The HLF was a front-charity for Muslim terrorism that was shut down after 9/11...one of several such "charities" shut down in Richardson, TX). I see burka-clad gals in the public library every time I go.

The fellow who shot up the El Al desk at LAX didn't wait for a bigger target, but just went for the convenient target. He seemed to be somewhat less than discriminating in his choice, almost as if he were in some sort of fanatic religious rage.

True, searching the hometown papers would generate lots of information about those deployed in Iraq.

Articles like the one that started this thread ought to be more circumspect, when they talk about one of our boys dropping the hammer on a terrorist. I think that is a bit different from saying "SGT Bob Neumann is deploying to Iraq with the 514th Mess Kit Repair Battalion."
 
If you think the 1050 yard shot is incredible, then you need to go here.

http://www.badlandstactical.net

This shooting school in southern Oklahoma, just north of Wichita Falls, TX, has as its lead rifle instructor Steve Suttles.

Suttles made the longer confirmed bolt-action rifle shot of the Vietnam War....1260 yards.

And he will teach you to range and hit targets out to 1000 yards.

hillbilly
 
Anyone who is really interested in this sort of thing should read Marine Sniper: 93 Confirmed Kills if you haven't already. It's about Carlos Hathcock, the greatest marine sniper of the Vietnam war. Great stories in there. He spent 3 days crawling 1500 yards into a Vietnamese compound, sniped a bigwig and then crawled out undetected. If you've seen the movies Sniper and Saving Private Ryan then you've seen a piece of film inspired by Hathcock. He's the original person who countersniped a sniper by sending the bullet through the scope tube and into the eye. That book is out on cheapo paperback for 5 or 6 bucks at your local bookstore and it's an exciting and interesting read. He also talks about his match shooting on military shooting teams. It's all very interesting to anyone interested in rifle shooting and there's some gear talk in there too.

brad cook
 
Dig-me....good taste and good research on Gunny Hathcock...White Feather was not just the ace, of long eyes....but a true first class honorable gentleman as well.... ANYTHING you read, will be an insight, to a truely special man. Arc-Lite
 
Question for vets - when we're fighting a war against terrorists like this, is it REALLY a good idea to completely identify the U.S. personnel involved, including full name and even home town?

To judge from the Marines I've met, if you told them that having their name, address and photograph published in the press would guarantee that Al Qaeda would come hunting them, they'd be lined up for blocks outside the nearest newspaper office! :D
 
preacherman...wise and correct call, this is one of the problems of having reporters inbeded with units.. looks like the Marines did the publishing on this report, just shows the difference in a Marine writer and a warrior, and the large need for PR and newspaper heros...
 
The book on Carlos Hathcock is indeed a very good book. There is allso a vidio out titled "Marine Sniper-Carlos Hathcock, His own words" It is very interesting to watch this soft spoken man talk about some of his experences in vietnem.Well worth finding.
He died a few years ago and the sniper world lost a very great man.
Bob
 
Doc...a 1050 yard second button shot, is TRUE jazz at it finest !!! El Tejon... a quality sniper, does go to school, but his true learning began at 8 years old, with a 22, in his yard hunting squirrels....the school can only teach the Ghila suit and how to blend. Hats off to White Feather....and this fine young Marine.
 
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