FALLUJAH,a sniper's dream

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'It's a sniper's dream'
Marine sharpshooters use stealth, high-powered rifles in Fallujah


Tony Perry
Los Angeles Times
Associated Press



FALLUJAH, Iraq -- Taking a short breather Friday, the 21-year-old Marine corporal explained what it is like to practice his lethal skill in the battle for this city.

"It's a sniper's dream," he said in polite, matter-of-fact tones. "You can go anywhere and there are so many ways to fire at the enemy without him knowing where you are."

Sniping -- killing an enemy from long distance with a single shot -- has become a significant tactic for Marines in this "Sunni Triangle" city as three battalions skirmish daily with armed insurgents who can find cover among the buildings, walls and trees.

Marine sniper teams are spread in and around the city, working night and day, using powerful scopes, thermal imaging equipment and specially modified bolt-action rifles that allow them to identify and target armed insurgents from 800 yards or more.

Sniping experts -- there are several here with the Marines -- say there might not have been such a "target-rich" battlefield
for such shooters since the World War II battle for Stalingrad, during which German and Russian snipers dueled for months.

As a military tactic, sniping is centuries old; the first snipers used bows and arrows. Leonardo da Vinci is said to have been a sniper against the Holy Roman Empire.

Weapons change, but the goal of the sniper remains the same: harass and intimidate the enemy, make him afraid to venture into the open, deny him the chance to rest and regroup.

The Marines believe their snipers have killed hundreds of insurgents, although that figure alone does not accurately portray the significance of sniping. A sign on the wall of sniper school at Camp Pendleton, Calif., displays a Chinese proverb: "Kill One Man, Terrorize a Thousand." "Sometimes a guy will go down, and I'll let him scream a bit to destroy the morale of his buddies," said the Marine corporal. "Then I'll use a second shot."

In negotiations aimed at ending the standoff in the city, the insurgents have demanded that the Marines pull back their snipers.

A shaky truce exists between the Marines who surround the city and the fighters within the circle. But the cease-fire allows the Marines to carry out defensive operations within the city, which among other things they define as allowing fire on insurgents who display weapons, break the curfew or move their forces toward U.S. troops.

While official policy discourages Marines from keeping a personal count of people they have killed, the custom continues. In nearly two weeks of conflict here, the corporal from a Midwestern city has emerged as the top sniper, with 24 confirmed kills. By comparison, the top Marine Corps sniper in Vietnam killed 103 people in 16 months.

"As a sniper your goal is to completely demoralize the enemy," said the corporal, who played football and ran track in high school and dreams of becoming a high school coach. "I couldn't have asked to be in a better place. I just got lucky: to be here at the right time and with the right training."

The military has asked that sniper names not be published. Insurgents were said to have placed a bounty for the killing of any Marine sniper. A Web site, linked to the insurgents, attempts to provide information on snipers and their family members. During Vietnam, the Viet Cong also put a bounty on snipers.

Marine snipers, whose motto is "one shot, one kill," fire from rooftops in crowded urban areas of Fallujah, as well as exploring the city by foot. It sometimes takes hours to set up a shot, as the sniper hides in the distance, waiting for the opportune moment.

Marine officers credit the snipers, all of whom are enlisted men, with saving Marine lives by suppressing enemy fire and allowing their comrades greater freedom of movement.

"The snipers clear the streets for us," said Capt. Douglas Zembiec. "The snipers are true heroes."

Sniper teams have come under fire and suffered casualties. Marine intelligence suggests that the insurgents -- using Russian- and Chinese-made rifles and optics -- have their own sniper teams, but there have been no reports of Marines killed by sniper fire.

Unlike other infantry troops, the sniper has a greater confidence that his shot is not as likely to hit a civilian or a "friendly."

The corporal hopes to get back home by late fall in time to take his girlfriend to a college football game and go deer hunting with his father.

"When I go hunting for whitetail, it's for food and sport," he said. "Here, when I go hunting, it's personal, very personal."
 
I love reading sniper stories. I always wanted to go into the marines and become a sniper, but I wimped out at the last minute, who knows, it's still a possibilty, but my vision will hold me back, I'm sure.

If you are interested in sniper stories, read a book call "One Shot, One Kill" It's incredible. It's got storied from about 25 different stories, including the story from Hathcock, the sargeant with the longest confirmed kill, 2000 yds. ( i beleive that # is right). And the story of Vassili Zaitsev and Major Konig during world war I. After reading that story, I lost respect for the movie, the real ending is SO much more incredible.
 
As I read this fine article I figured it must be from the "Washinton Times" (I forgot to look first).

Almost did a spit-take when I saw it was the left leaning LA Times!:eek:
 
YEE-HAW....Open season on the bad guys and no bag limit..

That reminds me of that great picture of the 5 redneck hunters in camo. The caption was something about a new military team to go in and kill/capture Bin Laden. Anyone else remember this?
 
Sometimes a guy will go down, and I'll let him scream a bit to destroy the morale of his buddies," said the Marine corporal. "Then I'll use a second shot."

Wow. Yeah I will bet that would destroy morale. I was thinking for a minute that was cruel, but then I remember who our men are fighting against. Burn em all.:fire: :fire: :fire:
 
That reminds me of that great picture of the 5 redneck hunters in camo. The caption was something about a new military team to go in and kill/capture Bin Laden. Anyone else remember this?


This the one?



http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_special_forces.htm


redneck_special_forces.jpg


liked this one even better

redneck_anti-terrorist_training.jpg
 
Any idea if they may be using 'Whispers'

A whole line of subsonic, VLD, bullets that don't make a sound(at anything like tactical range anyway)and don't have much muzzle flash. You'd be amazed at the range and accuracy that these bullets can achieve. I've heard that 600 yards is quite easy for a good sniper.
Anybody read "Dear Mom: A sniper's Vietnam"? By a marine corps sniper named JT Ward. Great read by a down home wyoming farmboy about his time in country.
 
You know these Marines are doing their job well when the Iraqi insurgents demand they be pulled back.

I hope the brass lets them continue to issue one-way tickets to meet Allah...

Bravo-zulu...
 
serious, what are they bitching about? I thought they thought it was good to die for their cause. what, they don't want to get to their virgins? what gives?
 
While official policy discourages Marines from keeping a personal count of people they have killed, the custom continues.

Is this correct? I had never heard that the Corps had a policy against snipers keeping a body count. After all, the Corps itself has rules regarding what makes a "confirmed" kill, correct? Is this simply a mistake by the writer?
 
Hats off to the men behind the glass and their spotters. While providing an overwatch for our own troop movements, they also demoralize the enemy by instilling them with awe & fear. :)
 
American Rifleman had an article a couple months ago about the Barrett M82 being used in Iraq by the Army (M107) and Marines (M82A3). One of the points made in the article was the effect upon the morale of the terrorists when the guy next to them gets his torso turned inside out by a .50 BMG round.

According to the article, the troops love the Barretts. The rifles can stop a truck without requiring high explosives, can selectively kill at extreme range, and are a great force multiplier.
 
good god 24 kills in 2 weeks! if this drags on a month or 2 this kids gonna surpass hathcock.

I believe Charles B. Mawhinney has 103 and Eric R. England has 98, both surpassing Hathcocks 93. Mawhinney ambushed a company of NVA, If I'm not mistaken, and that contributed to his high kill number. http://www.marinescoutsniper.com/Default1.htm
However, what made Hathcock a legend was his skill, cunning, and patience, especially when facing enemy snipers. All of his confirmed kills were well documented, most believe his unconfirmed kills put him in a class of his own.


Back on topic...I'm glad to see my fellow Marines closing with and destroying the enemy in a way that no other fighting force in the world can.
Semper Fi!
 
"Well that's real good Op-Sec. Your license plate is very legible."

Inside info tells me it was Photoshopped. That's the license of the nearest East Texas PETA member.

Bart Noir
 
Inside info tells me it was Photoshopped. That's the license of the nearest East Texas PETA member.

And even if it isnt what possible harm could come from having a photo of your license plate? Maybe im missing something but my plate is plainly visible everywhere i go.
 
I've always heard the first group of fatbodies pictured above referred to as the Fast Action Response Team (F.A.R.T.):cool:

Here's a good pic I ran across last night: Intel7.gif
Might be the same Marine referenced in the article, since the official caption for this photo says "A U.S. Marine Corps sniper with Company E, 2nd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division keeps an unwaivering eye with his high-powerd scope as he searches enemies to add to his 20-plus confirmed enemy kills inside Fallujah, Iraq. While offensive operations are suspended, Marines remain vigilant throughout the city."
 
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