marlin 1895 45-70 guide gun
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1895gunner
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Given a choice I would always go with what I know which is pre-Remington 2010. Actually I have a favorite span of Guide Guns that were manufactured between 1998 & 2002. They were factory ported, love em. Here is a pick of some of my Marlin Guide Guns / Outfitters.
There are 45/70's, a 450, and a 444 included in this pic.
1895gunner
There are 45/70's, a 450, and a 444 included in this pic.
1895gunner
RunninLate
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eldon519 How much of the recoil do you think the porting help reduce?
Are you still friends with the guys shooting next to you? I know with hunting loads in 45-70, there is quite a blast in front of the gun.
Kicked around getting my 1895 ported.
Are you still friends with the guys shooting next to you? I know with hunting loads in 45-70, there is quite a blast in front of the gun.
Kicked around getting my 1895 ported.
1895gunner might be in a better position to do a direct comparison of ported vs unported since he's got quite a collection. I feel like it does help keep the muzzle down the way the factory ports are cut.
Given the blast and my neighbors, it might make me less popular. I take a bit of pleasure from blasty guns though (mostly wheelguns), and honestly, it is probably a bad thing to admit, but I don't mind a gun that opens up a little room for me at the shooting range. Helps me concentrate.
Given the blast and my neighbors, it might make me less popular. I take a bit of pleasure from blasty guns though (mostly wheelguns), and honestly, it is probably a bad thing to admit, but I don't mind a gun that opens up a little room for me at the shooting range. Helps me concentrate.
Victor N TN
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I got mine just before Thanksgiving 2015. Expect to spend a lot of time getting the bugs out of it. Or send it to a lever gun specialist. Here it is almost the middle of April, 2016 and I still haven't gotten all the bugs worked out.
I think it's a wonderful rifle. If they had only spent a few dollars more on labor to finish fitting the parts.
Good luck.
Victor
I think it's a wonderful rifle. If they had only spent a few dollars more on labor to finish fitting the parts.
Good luck.
Victor
Victor N TN
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Not NOW...!
Not NOW ! I've used fine toolmakers files, stones and 1200 grit wet or dry to finally get MOST of everything smoothed out.
I had been trying to find one for 6 years. NOBODY had them in this area. Gander Mountain had a "Black Friday" sale the week before Thanksgiving. I went up and asked and sure enough, they had them in the warehouse. Blue only, no stainless steel models.
When I arrived at the store to pick it up, I thought all the creepy things I felt were nerves, since I had hunted this rifle for so long. Tax and all I paid $10 or $12 over $800 for it. A guy at church told me WallyWorld had them for $575. I almost swallowed my tongue. I went straight out there to check if it was the same thing. It was. Oh well...
It wouldn't have been so bad, but all the burrs and ill fitting parts just made it worse. It had a 13+ pound trigger pull and felt like rubbing 2 pieces of 80 grit paper against each other with a cinder block sitting on it. R O U G H !!! But it sure did look good. I accepted it on the spot. And I've been working at deburring it and polishing the fitted parts ever since.
Good luck,
Victor
Not NOW ! I've used fine toolmakers files, stones and 1200 grit wet or dry to finally get MOST of everything smoothed out.
I had been trying to find one for 6 years. NOBODY had them in this area. Gander Mountain had a "Black Friday" sale the week before Thanksgiving. I went up and asked and sure enough, they had them in the warehouse. Blue only, no stainless steel models.
When I arrived at the store to pick it up, I thought all the creepy things I felt were nerves, since I had hunted this rifle for so long. Tax and all I paid $10 or $12 over $800 for it. A guy at church told me WallyWorld had them for $575. I almost swallowed my tongue. I went straight out there to check if it was the same thing. It was. Oh well...
It wouldn't have been so bad, but all the burrs and ill fitting parts just made it worse. It had a 13+ pound trigger pull and felt like rubbing 2 pieces of 80 grit paper against each other with a cinder block sitting on it. R O U G H !!! But it sure did look good. I accepted it on the spot. And I've been working at deburring it and polishing the fitted parts ever since.
Good luck,
Victor
Victor, all is well when you put a 405 grain slug down range. I was going to dig into and look at mine more but first tenon screw i tried to remove broke one ear off the head of the screw and of course scratched the forearm tip. Luckily some light taps with a brass punch and I was able to remove the screw. New one on order and the scratch bugs me but not enough to replace it. Back to the crown. Would it be worth smoothing out or would I cause more damage.
ExAgoradzo
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Love my 1895G in .45-70. JM stamp
Love my 1894 in .44 RM too. 90's model.
My 1894 .357 less so, but still like it, also 90's vintage.
Greg
Love my 1894 in .44 RM too. 90's model.
My 1894 .357 less so, but still like it, also 90's vintage.
Greg
SwampWolf
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QUOTE: "...It wouldn't have been so bad, but all the burrs and ill fitting parts just made it worse. It had a 13+ pound trigger pull and felt like rubbing 2 pieces of 80 grit paper against each other with a cinder block sitting on it. R O U G H !!! But it sure did look good. I accepted it on the spot. And I've been working at deburring it and polishing the fitted parts ever since..."
I may be the only one that feels this way but, sorry, when I purchase any new firearm, especially one costing over $800.00 bucks, I expect it to be "finished" at the factory; that is, requiring no further buffing, fluffing, sanding, polishing, deburring or otherwise "tweaking" it to bring it up to "standard". I guess I'm just funny (old school?) that way...
I may be the only one that feels this way but, sorry, when I purchase any new firearm, especially one costing over $800.00 bucks, I expect it to be "finished" at the factory; that is, requiring no further buffing, fluffing, sanding, polishing, deburring or otherwise "tweaking" it to bring it up to "standard". I guess I'm just funny (old school?) that way...
I agree that what you buy should be "factory finished" but I knew going in I wasn't buying a python. I know myself I look and see more issues than there really are. Trigger is not good by any means and the crown bugs me a bit but I have so far put 200 flawless rounds down range and i believe remlin built a gun just to do that for the $. I am completely satisfied with my 1895 just looking at little tweeks like smoothing it out a bit.
Victor, took a look at the crown of my 1895 (purchased in Nov. 2015 like yours, MR serial number) and it looks fine. Nothing on mine has needed fixing now with around 80 round down the pipe. The only thing I'd like to tweak is the trigger. Pretty heavy, but that is certainly not a Marlin/Remington peculiarity. Have had all kinds of rifles and pistols with less than stellar triggers (except my Anschutz 1416. Now that's a trigger!). Good luck with yours Victor!
Ericuda, glad you're liking yours. They're fun rifles to have around
Ericuda, glad you're liking yours. They're fun rifles to have around
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dickydalton
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Here's my 2000 JM ported with "Happy Trigger". They make nice "Scout Rifles".
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1895gunner
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Although the porting wasn't implemented to help recoil, it does actually reduce the felt recoil since the muzzle doesn't rise as much as a non-ported. On the MarlinOwners forum somebody posted a side by side comparison video of ported verses non-ported and the muzzle rise was significantly reduced by the porting. I've shot a ton of Guide Guns in both configurations and the porting does indeed reduce the felt recoil.
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