Marlin Papoose Problems

[K5Guy]

I am having some problems with my Marlin Papoose. When it cycles it won't pick up a round. It just goes right over the top scrapping the lead. After looking at it closely there is a metal piece that is part of the magazine release that pushes down the back of the cartridge. It seems like this is pushing the round down too far and causing the bolt not to pick up a round.

This part may just need to be bent back in the proper location. If someone with a Papoose could look at there's and tell me which way that piece contacts the magazine it would be greatly appreciated. See the photo below for what I am talking about.



Thanks,
K5Guy

 

[blkbrd666]

Looks like the back left side of the top of your mag is bent inwards a bit, which would hold the rear of the round down too far. That piece you are referring to should fit in a groove on the bottom of the bolt. If it isn't in its groove, the bolt would ride over it bending it down against the mag...this may be how they both got bent. That piece should sit right at the top edge of the mag...can't fit a dental pick between them when the mag is inserted and the bolt is open.

Holy smoke man!!!...08/31/04 and only 5 posts? You're doing good if this is your first problem.

 

[K5Guy]

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I mainly read, rarely post

I will bend it back and work on the mag some and see if that fixes it. Hopefully it will since I like the little Papoose. The thing shoots pretty well when it managed to pick up a round.

 

[blkbrd666]

Post back with how it worked out. I tried to buy a Papoose last week at a gunshow but the guy wouldn't come off $169.00 and the case was a bit worn out.

 

[K5Guy]

I took the Papoose back to the range today. The original problem of not feeding a round is fixed but it is a complete jam-o-matic. It will pick up and chamber a round but it fails to extract and the spent casing rides on top of the round it tries to chamber causing a jam. This happens after every shot. No function at all.

I am not sure what is causing this. Maybe weak extractor springs? I worked the extractors back and forth and they seem too move freely and the bolt assembly was cleaned before the range trip.

I don't really trust the magazine either. The one that came with rifle caused my bent part. When pushed into the mag well it hangs on that part and bent it over. The mag I used today is a new one I purchased at a gun show that is supposedly a factory mag although it has no markings. I may pick up another factory mag to test it with.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Also, has anyone had luck sending rifles back to Marlin for repair? Their site says the minimum charge is $30 plus parts and shipping. Probably cost me at least $50 with shipping and I am not sure I want to put that much in this rifle.


Thanks,
K5Guy

 

[kiawahman]

I would think any gunsmith in your area would be able to figure your problem out quickly and cheaply. The Papoose action is based on the ever popular and reliable Model 60 that has been around since Moby Dick was just a minnow. One of, if not the #1 most popular selling 22cal rifle. They are known for their dependability and for digesting just about any ammo you feed it.

If you give up on your Papoose, give me a hollar!

 

[springfield1]

If the part that is contacting your clip is bent it will not eject the shell and cause the jam it is the ejector/mag spring and is about 8 dollars from marlin

 

[tango2echo]

I would call Marlin or send them an e-mail. I am up to 4 papooses now and all are trouble free/never jam. It looks as if your mag is slightly bent on the left side and the follower is bent also. Let us know what you find out.

T2E

 

[rangerruck]

Dude, you are way off. go over to rimfirecentral.com , and look up mod 60 disassembly threads. What you have there is the case ejector. it sits inside the action, when you turn the action upside down to look at it, it sits down in a little notch on the left side of the feed throat assy wall. And it must stay there!!!! the last 1/4 inch of that wire, bends a little bit up, and to the right, pointing into the center of the chamber, use a needlenose to accomplish this. when the bolt rides back, it should not ride on the top of this at all, but slide over it without touching it, then as the case comes backward, it hits the tip of that wire, and it is ejected to the right, out of the receiver.

 

[rangerruck]

http://www.4shared.com/file/27056203/a17eeefe/Marlin_60_Action_assy_a.html

look at the 6th picture, with the wire, sitting in the left side of the feed throat assy.,sitting in it's notch, with the last bit of the wire, pointing inward, and upward, into what would be the feed chamber, if put back in the rifle.

 

[springfield1]

The 60 and the 70 actions are similar ,but not exactly the same. The ejector/mag holder if bent is almost impossible to get back to specs. If you manually load rifle and pull the action back and it does not eject the shell the ejector is bent bent you can try to bend it back ,but then the magazine probably will not latch.That is why I ordered a new one from marlin should be here any day and I will post when mine is fixed.Here is a link for the originally manual the part number is 31 and still available from them.
http://gunshowonthenet.com/Gun_Manuals/Gun_Manuals3/Marlin_70P.pdf

 

[tango2echo]

Yep, springfield1....you're right on. I looked at my manual and compaired it to one of my M70pss and you got it right. Hope this helps the OP. Think I may order a spare for myself. It looks to me like if you tried to insert the mag to far it could bend this part. What do you think?

T2E

 

[springfield1]

Not sure, I know my clip got where it would not latch and I tried to fix it. Once I bent it enough to stay then it started jamming. Never could get it to do both, well after much frustration trying to bend it I decided to order a new one. If you read through the manual it tells you to be careful not to bend this peice during assembly/disassembly ,now I know why. K5GUY the mag does look a little bent, but I think your problem is in the peice described.