Marlin / Ruger 45-70

[GooseGestapo]

Not all Remlins were bad. Towards the end, some were gems.
I currently still have one of two M1895’s I got when Walmart was closing out on current inventory in September of ‘16.
I bought them for $259, each! Should have bought the third, but left it for some other lucky person.
I kept the better looking one… sold the other for cost of both, NIB. Now, that’s 1/3 of what they sell for…
I’ve never been enamored with TrailBoss…
My rifle likes #2400. 3 in one hole @50yds. 400gr Lee 400gr RFN @0.460”, over 20.0gr #2400, w/tuft of Dacron over the powder.
I had a M1894 in .44mag that was gorgeous! However, the bore was so “fuzzy”, it made you sick looking through it. It shot shotgun patterns… I sold it to a cowboy action shooter who thought it shot “ok”… At 50yds, it was ok with.431” HARD cast 200gr RFN shot from .44spl cases over 5gr of Bullseye, Clays, RedDot, GreenDot, Unique, ect… Wood fit, finish, and bluing were beautiful, though.

 

[CarJunkieLS1]

I must say I've never really been a fan of lever guns...that is until I put my hands on the Ruger made Marlin 1895 SBL. I fell in love and I just had to have it. So well after a rather lengthy stay in lay-a-way purgatory she is finally mine. The fit and finish is superb I looked over several different ones at my LGS and put the best one, they were all fantastic btw, I made this one the "best" as the laminate wood has the best color and shade at least to my eye it did.

 

[Show Me]

My 1895 is plenty worth the 600.00 new
I don't use trail boss in 45-70 because I already have a 45 colt rifle. 5744 and 300 gr LFNGC for 1400 is plenty slow.

 

[gotboostvr]

The new Ruglin 45-70 is pretty high on my list.

I think it'd make a great suppressor host.

I can set up a 450BM bolt action for essentially the same effect/purpose at much lower cost, but a lever gun just sounds more fun.

 

[Trey Veston]

The new Ruglin 45-70 is pretty high on my list.

I think it'd make a great suppressor host.

I can set up a 450BM bolt action for essentially the same effect/purpose at much lower cost, but a lever gun just sounds more fun.

Curious as to what you're planning on hunting in AZ with a .45-70 or .450 BM?

Both are great for elk in thick brush and under 200 yds. Seems most of the elk country I was in was pretty open up by Payson and Show Low. What area do you elk hunt in?

 

[gotboostvr]

Curious as to what you're planning on hunting in AZ with a .45-70 or .450 BM?

Both are great for elk in thick brush and under 200 yds. Seems most of the elk country I was in was pretty open up by Payson and Show Low. What area do you elk hunt in?

Oh I don't plan on hunting anything in Arizona with it.

I'm from Ohio, and plan on using it or something similar to hunt deer with back there.

Although, the lever would do well for short range javalina in the washes.

Plus, it just seems like a fun gun. I've also got a can rated for 45cal rifles, so why not?

 

[eastbank]

the two i looked at and handled were ok, how they shoot another story.

 

[Mark_Mark]

the two i looked at and handled were ok, how they shoot another story.

Nice Collection of Falling Blocks. Those #2 have skyrocketed in price. $1000-$1300 now

 

[CraigC]

As I understand it, the problem with Remington Marlins is that when Remington bought them, their machinery was worn out. The Marlin employees had learned how to produce decent guns with it but when Remington moved production, the new employees could not. It wasn't until they replaced all the machinery with modern CNC's that they were able to produce good guns. Which they did. The later Remlins were better than any of the JM Marlins. My later 1895 has better fit and finish than any JM Marlin I ever picked up.

Your changing the subject, your comment was about Ruger made Marlins, period. Check out this link to the Marlin rant forum and report back with the new Ruger built Marlin issues and how Ruger does not fix their guns. https://www.marlinowners.com/forums/marlin-rant-forum.109/ there are folks like you on every internet forum.

I don't see anything there, except one long thread by a two post member who bought a Marlin, sent it to Remington and then blamed Ruger for not fixing it.

I went to the link provided to see what was being said about the Marlins. At post TWO the language was already deep into the vernacular of the peasantry. Language that if used on THR would probably get you banned. I didn't read any further.

It's a nasty forum, full of nasty people that can't post without four letter words and there is ZERO moderation. If they did suddenly start moderating, 90% of the people there would be banned. I'm ashamed that I ever posted there but was goaded into it by a phony "friend".

 

[ditmo]

I've got a JM 1895CB and a Remlin 1895GBL. The wood fit on the JM is better, but the accuracy from the Remlin is better. I think they are both fine rifles. My Remlin 336Y had to go back for canted sights. I did some internal work on it to get it to feed correctly. Rounds would stick coming out of the tube magazine and not make it onto the lifter. Remington didn't fix that problem but I got it resolved and now like the rifle.

 

[3Crows]

Funny thing but after buying 336 Texan in 73 I bought a base 336 for my younger brother to borrow . I did not notice right off as we had mounted a scope that not only was the barrel and sights canted but the barrel drooped making the scope difficult to get elevation without bottoming out. After a while my dad took it upon himself and returned it to Marlin and they somehow fixed it. So long ago but my brother is still borrowing it but at least it is now straight (enough) , just do not look to close. I wondered why he could not hit anything, rifle was as crooked as a cork screw. Remington did not invent canted sights, double feeds, barrel droop, Letting in Two or Marlin Jam, they figured those cute tricks out all by themselves.

 

[tark]

Forget that silly smokeless stuff.

AMEN !!! Smokeless powder is a passing fad...

 

[Sistema1927]

My Remlin 1895GBL must be one of the few good ones.

 

[CarJunkieLS1]

Again, as soon as I see Ruglin and Remlin in a sentence the credibility of the author drops.

You mean like this:

Wasn't this rifle a Henry made rifle and not a Marlin, Remlin, or Mayodan Marlin at all?

 

[3Crows]

Wasn't this rifle a Henry made rifle and not a Marlin, Remlin, or Mayodan Marlin at all?

Yes, and I guess you did not follow my meaning, that Remington got grief for exactly this sort of fit and finish implied by such terms as "Remlin" and now inferred by "Ruglin" as commonly a put down that Henry company of 1996 gets a pass. Neither of my Remington or Ruger built Marlins look anything like that, not even close to that shoddiness.

 

[Archibald Stanton]

Yes, and I guess you did not follow my meaning, that Remington got grief for exactly this sort of fit and finish implied by such terms as "Remlin" and now inferred by "Ruglin" as commonly a put down that Henry company of 1996 gets a pass. Neither of my Remington or Ruger built Marlins look anything like that, not even close to that shoddiness.

Old Henrys never got much of a pass. They got straight bashed before shaping up and still often do but like Ruger, their focus on customer service cannot be beaten. A great thing about them is they have always been willing to work with me on load ups for reloads and pressures even when they are not fully listed or recommended. It’s never hard to talk to their engineers directly. I’ve even had them tell me while they couldnt directly recommend certain loads, this is what they thought would happen if I did, etc. I don’t know of many other firearm manufacturers willing to take the time to do that.

 

[CarJunkieLS1]

Yes, and I guess you did not follow my meaning, that Remington got grief for exactly this sort of fit and finish implied by such terms as "Remlin" and now inferred by "Ruglin" as commonly a put down that Henry company of 1996 gets a pass. Neither of my Remington or Ruger built Marlins look anything like that, not even close to that shoddiness.

Aahh yes I didn't quite catch the meaning, thanks for clearing that up, also I agree with you about other companies getting a pass for shoddy craftsmanship while other companies get drug through the mud.

I will say that the Remington plant before it went belly up was local to me, and I have seen and heard enough of the horror stories coming out of that place, that the mud dragging they got was for the most part deserved.

 

[Lennyjoe]

All of the Elk I took in Arizona (Unit 1, 27, 6A and 10) have all been in wooded cover and shots less than 100 yards with my 30-06. The 45-70 I have would of sufficed there as well, but I didn’t own one back then. Picked my RM 1895 when I moved back to Ohio in. 2016.

Oh I don't plan on hunting anything in Arizona with it.

I'm from Ohio, and plan on using it or something similar to hunt deer with back there.

Although, the lever would do well for short range javalina in the washes.

Plus, it just seems like a fun gun. I've also got a can rated for 45cal rifles, so why not?

 

[gotboostvr]

All of the Elk I took in Arizona (Unit 1, 27, 6A and 10) have all been in wooded cover and shots less than 100 yards with my 30-06. The 45-70 I have would of sufficed there as well, but I didn’t own one back then. Picked my RM 1895 when I moved back to Ohio in. 2016.

We just about traded places

An Elk hunt sounds fun on paper, up until you gotta pack it out at least. Too much work for me.

Coyote, deer, javalina and maybe some quail are about all I'm interested in hunting down here in the south east valley.

 

[Lennyjoe]

We just about traded places

An Elk hunt sounds fun on paper, up until you gotta pack it out at least. Too much work for me.

Coyote, deer, javalina and maybe some quail are about all I'm interested in hunting down here in the south east valley.

I retired out of DM in Tucson back in 2007. Last 7 years spent hunting elk in those units, Turkey in 1/27 and deer, quail, dove mostly down along the border south of Kitt Peak. Headed back home to Ohio in 2016.

 

[gotboostvr]

I retired out of DM in Tucson back in 2007. Last 7 years spent hunting elk in those units, Turkey in 1/27 and deer, quail, dove mostly down along the border south of Kitt Peak. Headed back home to Ohio in 2016.

That's not a terribly far drive for me, I'll have to keep it in mind for the future. Looks promising on the map at the very least.

 

[hdbiker]

I bought a new Ruger Single Six convertible around 1972. Over the years it had been fired so much it became out of time, Unless the hammer was cocked smartly the cylinder wouldn't always lock up but would still fire spiting lead. Called Rugers customer service, they wanted the gun back for a safety check. Ruger sent me a shipping box with shipping label, and I fed X'd it back to them. I put a note in the box that the gun always shot high even with the rear sight all the way down. in about 4 weeks I got the gun back, new taller front sight, cleaned up forcing cone and in perfect time, they even touched up the bluing. NO CHARGE

 

[small town life]

I have (my avatar) a '16 model sbl. The gray was great up till the checkering that was brown most likely due to heat stamped. I bought some black stain to cover it up. Looks way better now.