Maryland Shooters - HB 1211

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I hope all THR Maryland residents will write or email their State Delegates in support of HB 1211.This worthwhile legislation will make Shall Issue Conceal Carry legal in Maryland as it is in 37 states. Please write in support of HB 1211 at this critical time.

Also, please visit and support Marylandshallissue.org
 
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Yeah, I would just add that sending the same letter to Chairman Vallario (even if he is not your representative) asking him to allow the bill to be voted on by the committee might help. My understanding is that he might not let the bill see the light of day :fire: .

Since there is a separate AWB in the house, there should no longer be any fear that the CCW bill will be turned into an AWB.

Greg
 
Every Marylander who believes in the right to ccw should constantly apply pressure to their representatives, not just during hearing time.

HB1211 is a good bill whose time has come.

Chances of passing are slim, but everybodys' delegates and state senators NEED to know how you feel about it.

And get your non-gun owning friends involved too. What we want to do, is make sure this isn't seen as just another "gun nut" bill; it's not. This bill is about a constitutional right, and if you believe in it - a God given right to self defense for everybody.

In fact, the bill actually reforms the ccw laws to mandate training for ccw holders. The elite few that get permits now aren't required the training that most states require.

You can also send a letter to the Governor's office urging him to administratively change the ccw laws. Go to www.marylandshallissue.org for more info on that. There's currently over 1200 letters on his desk urging him to do exactly that.
 
Done. Sent each of them (including the chairman), the following message:

Delegate (Person),

My name is (Me), and I am writing to you to request your support for HB1211, the Citizens' Protection of Act of 2005. This act would allow law abiding citizens to apply for permits to defend themselves with concealed weapons; something that currently only criminals and individuals under extremely limited circumstances can do. Maryland has the highest rate of armed robbery of any other state in the country, and is near the top in other violent crimes such as murder. Many of these crimes occur right here in Prince George's County. A Maryland citizen can get out of state permits valid in 34 other states (including every state surrounding us), but are legally prohibited from defending themselves in their home state!

HB1211 would produce only positive results. Criminals already conceal carry without permits, so extending the right to defend oneself legally would not increase crime. Statistical results from shall-issue states such as Florida show a marked decrease in crime rates, and the rate of crime among CCW users is so low that after a few years Florida decided to stop tracking it. Similar experiences can be found in other states all over the country. As it stands now, Maryland is a safe haven for criminals who wish to commit violent crime against innocent civilians. Conceal carry reform would change that dramatically.

I implore you to support HB1211, and to help us bring this bill into reality. Self-defense is a right that all citizens should have; why don't we?

Sincerely,

(Me)
 
Excellent letter Delayed Reaction. Have any friends you can encourage to do the same? :evil:
 
Here's the big "gun Bill" day:

WEDNESDAY MARCH 9, 2005

Changes made to today's schedule through addenda

HB 38 Del Sophocleus, Criminal Law - Use of Firearm in Commission of
et al Crime
ADDED - MAR 9, 2005 1:00 PM

HB 179 Del Cadden, et Pub Saf - Rpl of Proc for the Collection &
Rptg of
al Hndgn Shell Casing Info - Prsnlzd Hndgn Tech
Rpt
ADDED - MAR 9, 2005 1:00 PM

HB 278 Del Niemann, et Gun Shops - Security Requirements for
Regulated
al Firearms
ADDED - MAR 9, 2005 1:00 PM

HB 527 Del Miller, et Public Safety - Transporting Sporting Firearms
ADDED - MAR 9, 2005 1:00 PM

HB 662 Del Quinter, et Armed Criminal Lockup Act
ADDED - MAR 9, 2005 1:00 PM

HB 762 Dels McMillan & Possession of Regulated Firearms - Convicted
Quinter Felons
ADDED - MAR 9, 2005 1:00 PM

HB 803 Del Dumais, et Police Officer Protection Act of 2005
ADDED - MAR 9, 2005 1:00 PM

HB 948 Del Quinter, et Maryland Assault Weapons Ban of 2005
ADDED - MAR 9, 2005 1:00 PM

HB 1159 Del Kelley, et Criminal Law - Death Penalty - Repeal
ADDED - MAR 9, 2005 1:00 PM

HB 1161 Del Kelley, et Death Penalty - Maryland Commission on Capital
al Punishment
ADDED - MAR 9, 2005 1:00 PM

HB 1170 Del Quinter, et Serial Murder Death Penalty Act
ADDED - MAR 9, 2005 1:00 PM

HB 1211 Del Dwyer, et Citizens' Protection Act of 2005
ADDED - MAR 9, 2005 1:00 PM

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As you can see, the heavies will all be stacked up against us that day. There's FIVE bills that really concerns us: HB1211, HB 948, 278, HB 527, and HB179


Let's start rounding up the troops - No excuses this time, we have plenty of notice.
 
Another Version.....

Since I'm from Frederick County, I drafted a letter that's slightly different and am sending it tonight. If anyone wants to email their delegates but doesn't have much free time at the moment, feel free to copy/paste and use!

Michael


Delegate (Person),

I’m writing to request your support for HB1211, the Citizens' Protection Act of 2005. This act would allow law-abiding Maryland citizens to apply for permits to defend themselves with concealed weapons, an option that is severely limited under current legislation.

Maryland has the highest armed robbery rate of any state in the country, and is near the top in other violent crimes such as murder. Passing this legislation would provide citizens with the option of defending themselves against the threat of criminal violence and theft. Over 30 other states have enacted legislation allowing law-abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons, and nearly all of these states have experienced a drop in violent crime. A coincidence? Possibly – but the type of coincidence we’d love to see occur in our own state.

Maryland is currently a safe haven for criminals who wish to commit violent crime against innocent citizens, due in part to the restrictions that have prevented law-abiding citizens from protecting themselves. I believe that reforming the concealed carry law would result in significant near-term benefits to citizen safety and security.

I respectfully request your support for HB1211, to help make our communities safer and eliminate the advantage that current legislation has offered to criminals over law-abiding free citizens of Maryland.

Sincerely,

(My name, address, and telephone number)
 
Thanks. And people think engineering majors can't write. :evil:

I'll try and make it to the March meeting. I can't guarantee anything with my class schedule (with my luck I'll have a midterm or three), but professors willing I'll be there!
 
Gents,

Thanx for the great sample letters. The past couple of weeks have been a whirlwind for me at work and I've been unable to keep track of the current legislative session. This weekend should give me the opportunity to get mine sent.

BR...
 
I'm going to try and get some letters out this weekend....three glorious days off!
 
My letter, email, and fax. (took a little bit of a different angle that, hopefully, should apeal to the Dems)

Delegate _______:

I am writing to urge you to support HB1211, the Citizen’s Protection Act of 2005.

Currently, Maryland issues permits to certain individuals, allowing them to carry a concealed handgun for self defense purposes. However, the issuance of permits is unfair and prejudiced. A businessman who carries large amounts of cash can get a permit, but anyone who simply wants to defend themselves will find it nearly impossible to get a permit. Is a few thousand dollars worth more than a human life? Is not the life of a man, woman, or child also worth defending?

HB1211 would remove the prejudice from Maryland’s concealed carry law. A woman who has been raped could carry a handgun to defend herself from any further assault. So too could an openly gay man or woman defend themselves from violent hate crime. Persons legally able to defend themselves with a concealed handgun could testify against criminals without fear of being defenseless should that criminal seek retribution.

Fears that the passage of HB1211 will lead to vigilante justice or “blood in the streets†are unfounded. To begin with, Maryland already allows some citizens to carry, and they have not caused such problems. Thirty-seven other states, including every state bordering Maryland, allow law abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns, and every one has seen a reduction in violent crime. Criminals are already carrying guns without permits. HB1211 will not affect them whether it passes or not, but it will allow law abiding citizens the ability to defend themselves from those criminals.

It is time that Maryland joined those thirty-seven other states in enacting fair and unprejudiced “Shall Issue†concealed carry legislation. Please do whatever you can to support HB1211.

Sincerely,

Me
 
It's a dirty little secret, but the Maryland State Police claim there are roughly 35,000 ccw permits in Maryland.

So 35,000 businessmen, lawyers and doctors can keep from killing randomly, why can't another 35,000 citizens?
 
[Signing in to again sit on side-lines. Not so much nosey - as compelled to follow everything. I applaud you guys on all this - 'fight the good fight' ... and you are well deserving of some results.]
 
Awesome Letters

Archangel and Delayed Reaction,

Great letters! Posting our letter drafts like this, allows others with limited time or who are shy about their writing skills, to have strong drafts to copy or revise as desired.

Hope to see all of you on the 9th of March,

Michael
 
I'm gonna try and be there. If someone could post a primer on showing up (where to go, where to park, what time to be there, what you should expect, etc) I would appreciate it. I've never done this before, and I need to make sure my class schedule is accomodated.
 
Delayed Reaction,

I'll have to let someone else post about location as I can never keep straight which building is for which hearing

However, general protocol is to dress as nicely as you are comfortable wearing. They expect us to show up in cammies, blaze orange and kevlar.....but I always make a point to wear a suit and a sharp tie. Many folks come in khakis and polos which is OK too.

Get there as early as you can so that you get get your stickers and meet the other folks. This will also let you get the vibe of how things are going to go for the day.

You will have to go through security so be sure to have driver's license and don't bring anything pointy with you.

Be sure to sign in as a witness, even if you don't want to testify. If you don't want to speak, you can just cede your time. This last hearing, because of time constraints a lot of us simply stood up and stated our names to register our opposition to the bill. This let some of the more experienced speakers have enough time to do what they need to do.

A lot of this point of the hearing is gamesmanship. They try to drag it out as long as possible so that we leave and we wait them out. Trouble is that even the most ardent of our supporters sometimes have to leave due to family responsibilities and the antis know this.

If you can, bring a granola bar or something so that you can go out in the hall and have a snack.....it's awfully hard to pay attention to the proceedings when you're hungry. The legislators duck in and out all day long to get food......usually in direct relation to their interest to the bill.

There are a LOT of UMCP people that I've met who are shooters......some of them are former schoolmates of yours from HS....Nico from THR being one.....you should try to round up some folks from UMd and bring them along.
 
Another Sample Letter

No, I'm not a Marylander, at least not anymore, and my letter will probably go ignored. I sent it anyway; who knows. Anybody else is free to use this, though you will want to look it over and elide some portions before you send it.

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Dear <Representative>

Camden, NJ: Antonio Diaz Reyes, 32, rapes three women. His string of serial rapes--brazen, daylight attacks, all--left authorities perplexed. His crime spree was brought to an abrupt end, though, when he attacked small business owner Ngoc Le and his wife. Reyes held a knife to Mrs. Le's throat and threatened to kill her. Le drew his own legally-owned firearm and fired once, removing a dangerous predator from the community he terrorized.

Firearms are used to save American lives approximately 2.5 million times each year--that's an average of once every 13 seconds [1]. Yet many state and local governments forbid their law-abiding citizens from possessing the very tool that could save their lives in a violent situation. Not coincidentally, these governments also frequently preside over the cities with the highest murder rates: DC, Chicago, New York, LA, and so forth. In fact, DC, which has the strictest gun control measures in the nation, was also the 2003 murder capital of the US.

As you may be aware, the State of Ohio recently passed a law allowing law-abiding citizens to carry concealed firearms for personal defence. Six months after the law went into effect, the Ohio Attorney General released data on the program. In the first six months, 38,476 licenses were issued (38,434 standard licenses and 42 temporary emergency permits). The success rate has been nothing short of astounding: of all of those licenses, only 24 CHLs, or 0.062%, have been revoked in the first six months. Furthermore, several of those revocations were due to the death of the holders. 48 CHLs, or 0.12%, were suspended in that time; many of these suspensions were reinstated after non-firearms-related charges against the license-holder were dropped [2]. These percentages are typical of concealed carry permit holders.

Take, for example, the case of Florida. According to a report by John Lott, “The rarity of these incidents is reflected in Florida statistics: 221,443 licenses were issued between October 1, 1987, and April 30, 1994, but only 18 crimes involving firearms were committed by those with licenses [3].†This represents a crime rate of .0081% within that group, a number so small as to be statistically insignificant. Another common concern, that persons lawfully carrying concealed weapons will erroneously shoot innocent bystanders, has also been shown to be unfounded; in fact, according to a study by criminologist and Constitutional lawyer Don Kates shows that the “errant shoot†rate by civilians is approximately 2%, while the “errant shoot†rate for police officers is more than five times as high, at 11% [4]. The reason for this is simple: while police have to enter a situation with little-to-no information, the private citizen (and would-be victim) is there to watch it unfold, and "rape, robbery and attempted murder are not typically actions rife with ambiguity or subtlety. [5]"

You may be wondering why I, a non-resident, am writing to you. Certainly, I'm not your constituent, and you aren't my representative. Numerous reasons abound. First, I'm nearly finished with my undergraduate work, and I'm trying to decide where to go to graduate school. Maryland has a number of fine universities, and I would consider moving back to Maryland were this legislation to pass. You might notice that I say "back" to Maryland; that's because I've lived there before, which brings me to my second point: I have family and friends in Maryland. Restoring to them the right of self-defence would go a long way toward ensuring their safety. A few of them even live in (or near) your district. I myself lived nearby, in Potomac, for several years.

The third reason, though, and by far the most important, is that self-defence is a basic human right. For years, we've been advised by authorities to submit to those who don't abide by society's rules, and we'll be left unharmed. Unfortunately, that advice has been proved wrong time and again. Just last week, a Columbus, Ohio man had that point driven home--repeatedly--by a group of thugs when they beat him for apparently no reason. I've linked the story below [6], including a photo of the man. I defy you to look into his eyes--the one that's open, anyway--and tell me he didn't have the right to defend himself against that brutal assault. By co-sponsoring this bill, you can show your support for families, and for the basic human right to self-defense. As Oleg Volk so bluntly put it, "[r]apists and muggers prefer unarmed victims. [7]" It's time to stop giving aid and comfort to these enemies of society.

Sincerely,
<me>

[1] Kleck, Gary and Marc Gertz. "Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun." The Journal of Criminal Law & Criminology, Northwestern University School of Law. Volume 86, Number 1, Fall, 1995
<http://www.a-human-right.com>
[2] http://www.ohioccw.org/article2649.html

[3] Kleck, Gary and Marc Gertz. ibid.

[4] Will, George. “The Last Word.†Newsweek, 15 November 1993. pg 93-94.

[5] ibid.

[6] http://ohioccw.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2777

[7] http://www.a-human-right-com
 
Great letter, and great sources.

I think I will use parts of it if you don't mind :)
 
Hey Guys,

It's great that we're all going on the offensive with the CCW bill, but don't forget about HB948 which is the full-blown AWB.......be sure to include a letter in opposition to this bill.
 
Here's my CCW letter:



Delegate ........ ........
Lowe House Office Building,
84 College Ave.
Annapolis, MD 21401 - 1991

February 21, 2005

Dear Delegate ...........,

I am writing to you to express my support for HB1211, the Citizens' Protection of Act of 2005.

As you no doubt know, approximately 35 states currently have laws that permit ordinary citizens to defend themselves with a concealed firearm. This is in stark contrast to Maryland where only the politically connected, those dealing with large cash transfers or those who can show substantial evidence of threat to one’s life may receive one of the elusive carry concealed permits.

Contrast this with our neighbor, Virginia, which has chosen to allow responsible citizens to defend their families and you will plainly see how permitting the lawful carry of firearms can be beneficial in reducing crime rates.

How is it that the State of Maryland can put itself in the position of being the arbiter of my family’s safety when it has already failed miserably in the control of the vicious criminals which prowl our communities? To deny a law-abiding citizen the right to self-defense is the ultimate in betrayal by our government.

Delegate ........., the Citizen’s Protection Act of 2005 is good legislation whose time has come. It benefits law-abiding citizens by restoring the right to self-defense while denying criminals the opportunity to make victims of those same citizens.

Rather than the continued focus on legislation that punishes those that own and use their firearms in a legal manner, it is time to focus on pro-active legislation which allows those citizens to defend their families.

I strongly urge you to support HB1211 with a positive vote.



Respectfully,

"Norton"
 
Remember - Chairman Vallario has the say on whether this bill even gets voted on or not. I sent him another letter today, and I think we all need to do the same.

I also sent Del Sophocleus a nice letter. I think he may be warming up to the idea based on his initial reaction and subsequent meetings.
 
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