Maryland, there is hope
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SB88LX
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the surge in bush/cheney stickers are eyecandy to me, I was really getting depressed seeing all the limosine liberals in deep montgomery county with kerry/adams yard signs and bumper stickers to boot. Still waiting on my pipkin signs/stickers.
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IN AN ELECTION FOR PRESIDENT IN MD TODAY, GEORGE W BUSH & JOHN KERRY TIE, ACCORDING
TO SURVEYUSA POLL OF 598 LIKELY VOTERS CONDUCTED 9/17 + 9/18 + 9/19 FOR WMAR-TV.
* 4 WEEKS AGO, IN TRACKING POLL, KERRY LED BY 11, 53% TO 42%. TODAY, KERRY HAS 48%,
BUSH HAS 48%. KERRY HAS LOST 5 POINTS, BUSH HAS GAINED 6. POLL METHODOLOGY IDENTICAL.
* BUSH LEADS BY 12 AMONG MEN. KERRY LEADS BY 12 AMONG WOMEN. BUSH LEADS BY 25 AMONG
WHITES; KERRY LEADS BY 54 AMONG BLACKS. 16% OF Democrats NOW CROSS-OVER TO VOTE
FOR BUSH. INDYS TIED AT 46%. BUSH LEADS BY 13 PTS IN MILITARY HH'S. KERRY LEADS BY 13
PTS IN NON-MILITARY HH'S. KERRY UP 10 IN UNION HH'S. BUSH UP 4 IN NON-UNION HH'S.
* VOTERS OF ALL INCOME LEVELS SPLIT EVENLY. RELIGIOUS & LESS RELIGIOUS VOTERS SPLIT.
RESEARCH CONDUCTED E.T. 040917 15:31-20:47 040918 12:54-20:49 040919 14:02-19:30 ET
RESPONDENTS DRAWN FROM THE ENTIRE STATE OF MARYLAND
RANDOM SAMPLE SELECTED BY SURVEY SAMPLING INC.
http://www.surveyusa.com/2004_Elections/MD040920president.pdf
TO SURVEYUSA POLL OF 598 LIKELY VOTERS CONDUCTED 9/17 + 9/18 + 9/19 FOR WMAR-TV.
* 4 WEEKS AGO, IN TRACKING POLL, KERRY LED BY 11, 53% TO 42%. TODAY, KERRY HAS 48%,
BUSH HAS 48%. KERRY HAS LOST 5 POINTS, BUSH HAS GAINED 6. POLL METHODOLOGY IDENTICAL.
* BUSH LEADS BY 12 AMONG MEN. KERRY LEADS BY 12 AMONG WOMEN. BUSH LEADS BY 25 AMONG
WHITES; KERRY LEADS BY 54 AMONG BLACKS. 16% OF Democrats NOW CROSS-OVER TO VOTE
FOR BUSH. INDYS TIED AT 46%. BUSH LEADS BY 13 PTS IN MILITARY HH'S. KERRY LEADS BY 13
PTS IN NON-MILITARY HH'S. KERRY UP 10 IN UNION HH'S. BUSH UP 4 IN NON-UNION HH'S.
* VOTERS OF ALL INCOME LEVELS SPLIT EVENLY. RELIGIOUS & LESS RELIGIOUS VOTERS SPLIT.
RESEARCH CONDUCTED E.T. 040917 15:31-20:47 040918 12:54-20:49 040919 14:02-19:30 ET
RESPONDENTS DRAWN FROM THE ENTIRE STATE OF MARYLAND
RANDOM SAMPLE SELECTED BY SURVEY SAMPLING INC.
http://www.surveyusa.com/2004_Elections/MD040920president.pdf
The problem is, that if it ends up being 51% Kerry and 49% Bush it's still Kerry getting Maryland's vote.....
The Dems still basically have a stranglehold on our electoral votes if that is the case.
We need to all get out there and push Bush and Pipkin over the top.
Just heard N.J. is 50/50 split....amazing,
The Dems still basically have a stranglehold on our electoral votes if that is the case.We need to all get out there and push Bush and Pipkin over the top.
Just heard N.J. is 50/50 split....amazing,
Almost makes me want to BEG libertarians and Constitutionalists to vote for Bush now that it might matter.
When MD and NJ were surefire Democratic states I always supported people breaking stride and voting third party, but with the votes actually being counted in these states this year.....one has to think about who they can settle for.....Kerry or Bush.
When MD and NJ were surefire Democratic states I always supported people breaking stride and voting third party, but with the votes actually being counted in these states this year.....one has to think about who they can settle for.....Kerry or Bush.
Now that the court has ruled that Nader should be on the ballot, that may help even more.
Disclaimer? If you live in MD and aren't voting for Bush, then guns/freedom aren't your main goals. (I failed my sensitivity/PC training course when I had a real job.) I have voted for Libertarian candidates in the past, but this election is too close, especially here.
Disclaimer? If you live in MD and aren't voting for Bush, then guns/freedom aren't your main goals. (I failed my sensitivity/PC training course when I had a real job.) I have voted for Libertarian candidates in the past, but this election is too close, especially here.
Ohen Cepel
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Norton,
That's great to hear!
Still doesn't make we want to stay here though
That's great to hear!
Still doesn't make we want to stay here though
I'd like to get out of here as well...but since the Navy demands my wife's presence and she's a little particular about us living in the same house, I'm stuck here for the time being.
I would have considered voting for either Peroutka or Badnarik if the polls were running true to stereotype in MD.....but this year every vote truly counts and I will vote Bush.
How many electoral votes does MD carry anyway?
I would have considered voting for either Peroutka or Badnarik if the polls were running true to stereotype in MD.....but this year every vote truly counts and I will vote Bush.
How many electoral votes does MD carry anyway?
Maryland has 10, as it has since at least 1981, and it will remain so until at least 2010.
Here's a great page for anybody wanting to check their state's electoral vote:
http://www.fec.gov/pages/elecvote.htm
Here's a great page for anybody wanting to check their state's electoral vote:
http://www.fec.gov/pages/elecvote.htm
one45auto
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Don't bother Spot77, they're too precoccupied with the thought of making some useless protest or else "voting thier conscience. "
Mikul
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Yup. Those immoral sons-of-goats have got to be run out of the state. We have no room for anyone who follows their conscience. They're a scourge on our great nation.
Mikul
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Yup. Those immoral sons-of-goats have got to be run out of the state. We have no room for anyone who follows their conscience. They're a scourge on our great nation.
one45auto
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Mikul,
I, too, would gladly vote Libertarian if there was even the slightest chance of Badnarik winning the Presidency, but let's be realistic. He doesn't have a prayer. The vast majority of the American public, to say nothing of the media, is (thanks to Lyndon LaRouche) convinced that the Libertarians are nothing but a fringe group of radical and misguided malcontents. They've never bothered to research thier platform, nor investigate thier beliefs. Nor are they likely to, either. Until the Libertarians can win more local elections, and thus increase thier chances of winning a seat in Congress, no one will sit up and take notice but ourselves.
Now, taking that into consideration, it then becomes clear that one of two men will win this election. It will either be John Kerry, or George Bush. Given that fact, it becomes crystal clear that you have three choices - participate and take a side, vote for a third party candidate who cannot win, or sit on the sidelines and do nothing. Only the first option will have any impact, as the second and third are virtually identical with respect to results. Conscience is a fine thing, but it will be of little consolation when those who do vote that way wind up whining on these boards about some new gun law or assault weapons ban which Kerry is enacting, should he win.
If both candidates respected our Rights, I'd say go for it. Vote your conscience. Sit this one out, if you wish. But because Kerry doesn't, and is clearly anti-gun with a passion, the stakes are too high to throw away your vote when it could mean the difference between maintaining things as they are or making them worse.
I, too, would gladly vote Libertarian if there was even the slightest chance of Badnarik winning the Presidency, but let's be realistic. He doesn't have a prayer. The vast majority of the American public, to say nothing of the media, is (thanks to Lyndon LaRouche) convinced that the Libertarians are nothing but a fringe group of radical and misguided malcontents. They've never bothered to research thier platform, nor investigate thier beliefs. Nor are they likely to, either. Until the Libertarians can win more local elections, and thus increase thier chances of winning a seat in Congress, no one will sit up and take notice but ourselves.
Now, taking that into consideration, it then becomes clear that one of two men will win this election. It will either be John Kerry, or George Bush. Given that fact, it becomes crystal clear that you have three choices - participate and take a side, vote for a third party candidate who cannot win, or sit on the sidelines and do nothing. Only the first option will have any impact, as the second and third are virtually identical with respect to results. Conscience is a fine thing, but it will be of little consolation when those who do vote that way wind up whining on these boards about some new gun law or assault weapons ban which Kerry is enacting, should he win.
If both candidates respected our Rights, I'd say go for it. Vote your conscience. Sit this one out, if you wish. But because Kerry doesn't, and is clearly anti-gun with a passion, the stakes are too high to throw away your vote when it could mean the difference between maintaining things as they are or making them worse.
nico
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that's definitely good news!
Out of curiosity, have there been any polls for Pipkin/Mikulski?
Out of curiosity, have there been any polls for Pipkin/Mikulski?
Haven't seen any polls, but neither have I seen a SINGLE Mikulski sticker or sign.
Pipkin must have done a good job getting cozy with the MD Republican party because Pipkin signs are quite often tacked right below the Bush/Cheney signs.....
Got the Pipkin sticker on my truck.....
Pipkin must have done a good job getting cozy with the MD Republican party because Pipkin signs are quite often tacked right below the Bush/Cheney signs.....
Got the Pipkin sticker on my truck.....
SB88LX
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I've seen 2 mikulski stickers, go figure, all in monkey county.
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