Mauser good historical gun

[Golden_006]

but can't compare to anything modern in a battlefield; I'd take my Ruger Mini is better. It's new, autoload, more accurate, little recoil/easier to shoot; and goes through 100 rounds of dusty federal ammo like crap through a goose.

Maybe it's just my particular Mauser but the thing is not accurate; it seems like the mag has a hard time sitting in the front lip or something. At the range it opened partly and I couldn't get the thing to open all the way, to put it back, so I just set is aside. i later learned the little trick after I got home; you have to press the button in all the way and to the back maybe. The action is not smooth. I sometimes have to wipe a case from the breech since it doesn't eject all the way / its an old design.

These are still in combat? And saw some action in Bosnia-HG in the 90's? I still like the firearm for what it is: a novelty, old school, bolt gun from decades ago; but if you gave me that thing to go out into a battlefield today; i am handing that thing right back to you and going home.

 

[Robert]

Maybe it's just my particular Mauser but the thing is not accurate; it seems like the mag has a hard time sitting in the front lip or something. At the range it opened partly and I couldn't get the thing to open all the way, to put it back, so I just set is aside. i later learned the little trick after I got home; you have to press the button in all the way and to the back maybe. The action is not smooth. I sometimes have to wipe a case from the breech since it doesn't eject all the way / its an old design.

Are you talking about the K98? What button? And yes it sounds like something is very wrong with whatever rifle you are talking about.

My K98 is wonderful to shoot. I can hit pretty much anything I can see with it and it cycles smooth as can be.

 

[Golden_006]

yes it's the k98.

The button to release the mag.

There are plenty of youtube vids of K98ers who do not have smooth actions.

It's not that I don't like the firearm. it's just compared with what's out there today -- even a mini 14 -- for combat -- it's just no comparison. And wouldn't be caught dead fight a professional army with one like apprently millions of guerilla fighters do. (or should I say I would be caught dead with one.)

 

[MtnCreek]

'Botton to Release Mag' Are you talking about the cut out in receiver where you push down the mag follower to close the bolt when empty?

 

[Robert]

The button to release the mag.

Ohhhhhh. Yeah there is almost no reason to open the internal mag unless you are trying to dump all the ammo or to clean it.

t's just compared with what's out there today -- even a mini 14 -- for combat -- it's just no comparison. And wouldn't be caught dead fight a professional army with one like apprently millions of guerilla fighters do. (or should I say I would be caught dead with one.)

Well of course not, it is a design that dates back to 1898. The K98 was designed after WW1 of course it is not competitive in a modern setting. To think that it would be is just silly. The K98, SMLE, Garand, Mosin, and 1903 are all great rifles, and can be a fun to shoot but they are nowhere close to a modern rifle.

There are plenty of youtube vids of K98ers who do not have smooth actions.

Not all that surprising. Most of these rifles have had very poor care in the last 70 odd years. A $100 rifle is just that.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

The button to release the mag.

The floorplate release? It is true the Model 98 is no longer a viable combat weapon but neither is the Springfield Model of 1903 or any other bolt gun. The Mauser is however the grand daddy of countless hunting and target rifles not to mention the sniper rifles still in common use by our military. The Mauser is my all time favorite action. If there are things wrong with yours just fix them and enjoy one of the most successful actions of all time.

 

[Jaws]

This is funy.
Is like saying that a resored Bf-109, dug out of a swamp in Ukraine, isn't a good fighter plane. F-15 and even the F-5 can easily shoot it down.

The Mauser is ove 100 years old, when it came out was the top dog, sadly, it killed millions of people. It is the single most copied action/rifle on the planet.
It doesn't have to prove anything anymore. It proved everything it had to prove many many years ago.

 

[black timber]

I own an 11mm Mauser built in 1880, it's as smooth as my new bolts including the Ruger 77s that look very similar for some odd reason...

 

[Gelgoog]

I'll take one of my swedish, persian or south american contract mausers anyday over a Ruger/Savage/remington.

 

[Phaethon]

A gun is a gun. Perhaps firearms technology has progressed significantly over the years, but the internal ballistics have remained pretty much the same since the advent of smokeless powder. Granted, bullets have become more powerful and efficient, but the 7.92 mm Mauser is more than strong enough to match today's intermediary and rifle cartridges.

The fact is that if you put a scope on it, it makes a good long ranged rifle. It wouldn't at all be my weapon of choice, but I wouldn't feel so that disadvantaged if I were issued it, so long as I'm able to exercise its strengths. After all, modern sniper units are still outfitted with bolt-action weapons.

 

[rcmodel]

Drag a K98 along side your Mini-14 though the Argonne Forest & Trenches of WWI, followed by the Russian front in WWII, and see which one still Feeds, Fires, and Functions Freely when you get done.

rc

 

[black timber]

Hardened infantry man with a k98 who's seen a lot of combat vs joe blow off the street with any modern rifle: my money's on the infantry man. Yes a modern weapon might have some advantage, but not enough...

 

[rcmodel]

How about if they both take cover behind pine trees?

5.56 NATO vs 8mm Mauser.
Wonder which one will shoot through the tree trunk and which one won't?

Oh wait! I already know!

rc

 

[black timber]

When I think "Mauser", unreliable and ineffective are words that just don't come to mind.

 

[gun addict]

some dude tried to trade a prestine fully restored Ford T model for my 1990 Ford Taurus, im like Naw my Taurus drives alot better...

see what i did there?

 

[Justin]

Obvious thing is obvious

Of course the Mauser is going to be outclassed by nearly any small arm issued by modern militaries.

The same goes for the Mini 14 as well.

 

[Golden_006]

How do you figure that? And if it so obvious then you would not see a smle and a mauser still winning armed conflicts.

This is what I don't get. Everyone wants to hate on the mini.

I wouldn't put the SKS in the same league as Mauser. And I would not mind having one if the Chinese invade or whatever. but I would the Mauser. I would think sks and mini could still hold theor own.

I'm just surprised by many here who apparently have combat exp. and put a firearm that shoots a .223 round and 20 mag in the same category as something that in my view is tantamount to a Savage bolt action hunting rifle.

Don't get me wrong I like the Mauser. It is what it is. A cool novelty rifle, that is cheap to shoot corrosive ammo at the range and easy to clean after. But just because it still sees action today in armed conflicts and has even in recent history -- that doesn't prove much except that a bunch of grunts will shoot whatever they can get their hands on.

 

[Robert]

A cool novelty rifle

Then you clearly have no idea what a Mauser rifle is or the Mauser you have is complete junk. I own both a 1944 K98 and a Mini 14. The Mauser is by far the superior rifle. Stronger action. Better cartridge. More accurate. Less prone to over heating. A Mauser in even decent shape is a far better weapon than the Mini 14 could ever hope to be. But I would not use either in combat. Not if I have a choice.

 

[Maverick223]

While the Mauser is no longer the preferred military rifle (though it was generally well thought of for the first 50yrs. of its service life), it is the most popular action for large, dangerous game (the preference of many a professional hunter) for good reason. It is strong and dead reliable.

Furthermore I am inclined to believe that the Mauser is the most celebrated and copied commercial rifle action (everything from the Rem. 700 to Win. M-70 to CZ-550 is based upon the Mauser at some level) of any kind for good reason.

 

[Fastcast]

Taint no stinkin Mini 14 as accurate as a Mauser, unless of course the Mauser's barrel is shot out.

DUH

 

[highorder]

The Mauser is by far the superior rifle. Stronger action. Better cartridge. More accurate.

This.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

But I would not use either in combat. Not if I have a choice.

Same here. If I were forced into batter carrying a WWII weapon and had a choice I would choose either an M1 Garand or a U.S.G.I. .30 cal. carbine.

 

[Golden_006]

how do i know if my mauser is complete junk or not? or if the new minis are much better?

could it be the ammo?

Also why does the mag not sit right? and why di I see others in youtube having the same tug-o-war to work the bolt?

 

[Cosmoline]

If you have a pattern 98 Mauser that won't cycle and wont feed reliably, then there's something very wrong with it or you're feeding it ammunition it does not like. Can you give specifics on exactly what you have and what you're shooting with it? What country made it? What is the year and arsenal stamp? It sounds like a dirty old Turk to me.

Keep in mind that the Mauser 98 action is the preferred action for a hundred years of hunting rifles. While it doesn't permit the firepower of a semiauto or auto, it does chamber very powerful rounds. As a marksman or sniper rifle any pattern 98 would be fine in combat.

I agree with you that the Mini-14 is unfairly dumped on. Folks use them here in the bush and use them very rough. They're not the most accurate or the most pretty, but they're tough. But it's an apples/oranges comparison with the Mauser. The Mini is shooting a mere intermediate cartridge.

 

[Justin]

how do i know if my mauser is complete junk or not?

Take it to a gun smith and have them look it over, check the crown, check the head space of the chamber, shine a light down the bore and look for pitting/lack of rifling.

or if the new minis are much better?

Look. Your Mauser and your Mini are two completely different rifles from two completely different time periods built in completely different countries and designed for completely different purposes.

The Mauser was built and designed to be a general-issue infantry rifle in the era of monocles and mustaches.

The Mini was designed to be a civilian-oriented general purpose centerfire rifle that's accurate enough for an afternoon of plinking or hunting varmints.



As a result, there's really not much to be gained from trying to compare one to the other as a "combat rifle" or whatever. Nor is there a whole lot of usefulness to be derived from daydreaming about a Chinese invasion or the booger man or whatever.

If you're trying to suss out what rifle might be best for a given application for which you will likely need a rifle, it's best to start by figuring out what your target is, what the distances are, and what the general terrain will be.