rangerruck
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it is very, very good, however you must put on a slip on recoil pad at the least, or your shoulder will tell tales on you!
Mauser "tanker"... practical?
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Aguila Blanca
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For about $150 to $175 you can buy a Yugo 24/47, which is essentially a new rifle. They are 1924 models that were rebuilt to as-new condition after the war, put in storage, and never reissued. They are "short rifles" -- 23-1/2" barrel.
If you really want an even shorter Mauser, Sarco Inc. has barreled Mauser actions for under 50 clams. Buy a stcok, chopt the barrel to the length you want, and have fun. Heck at $50 for the action and maybe $75 for a stock, you can rebarrel it and still be way under Mitchell's inflated price.
cracked butt
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Buy a $100 yugo M48.
Cut the barrel down with a pipe cutter
add a front sight
recrown
Voila, a shorter carbine.
For far less than $500 you could buy a Charles Daly mauser which is made in the same factroy, has much better fit and finish, and even add a scope if you want.
Cut the barrel down with a pipe cutter
add a front sight
recrown
Voila, a shorter carbine.
For far less than $500 you could buy a Charles Daly mauser which is made in the same factroy, has much better fit and finish, and even add a scope if you want.
cracked butt
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...double post....
cracked butt
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I know, remington will now be importing them.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_798.asp
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_798.asp
Remington's MSRP is $599 for the smaller calibers with no iron sights, although I suppose it is drilled and tapped for a scope mount...and you'd still have to cut it down to be as small as the Tanker.
I can only think the best alternative to the Tanker is to get a k98 or Enfiled and rebarrel it (if you want, say .308), shorten the barrel and there you go. But then of course you are chooping up a mil-surp rifle...
I can only think the best alternative to the Tanker is to get a k98 or Enfiled and rebarrel it (if you want, say .308), shorten the barrel and there you go. But then of course you are chooping up a mil-surp rifle...
cracked butt
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Leave it up to Remington to screw up a good affordable rifle
If you just want a short handy rifle.....
(I never could figure out what "handy" meant with respect to guns) buy a Mosin Nagant M44. More powerful than a 308 and cheap, under 100 bucks. Cheap ammo too. And, the fold out bayonet makes a dandy rifle holder while you open your beer........Otherwise, can we brand a "B" for bubba on your forehead..........chris3
(I never could figure out what "handy" meant with respect to guns) buy a Mosin Nagant M44. More powerful than a 308 and cheap, under 100 bucks. Cheap ammo too. And, the fold out bayonet makes a dandy rifle holder while you open your beer........Otherwise, can we brand a "B" for bubba on your forehead..........chris3
anotherinkling
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I was looking at one of those Tanker Mausers as well. If you don't think of it as a fake collectible, it's not bad at all for the price. Looks good, has iron sights, comes in rounds you can easily pick up anywhere, strong, proven action, already cut for stripper clips (detachable mags would be nice, though), bayonet lug, very portable. Good to go out of the box. Not a bad pick if one doesn't have the time or inclination to do a bit of gunsmithing. I would be curious to know about accuracy, though. Is this a pie plate or a barn door gun at 200yds?
Atla
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I'm planning on buying one.
For several reasons.
1. It is not a chopped up M48. It is a BRAND NEW MANUFACTURED rifle.
2. It would be a very dandy woods rifle, especially with a caliber selection.
3. Mitchell's lied about it being considered as a tank rifle, it's not. It's a sporting rifle, and was never considered to be used as a tank rifle. That is the only lie involved.
4. $500 is a pretty good price for a rugged and reliable bolt gun. A Mini-14 costs more than that, a Remington 700 is more, a Savage 110 is more, etc, etc.
5. It's just so 'cute'.
My suggestion is to keep an eye on auctionarms or gunbroker if you want to snag a deal on one. Sometimes they will go for around $400.... if you can catch one on there.
For several reasons.
1. It is not a chopped up M48. It is a BRAND NEW MANUFACTURED rifle.
2. It would be a very dandy woods rifle, especially with a caliber selection.
3. Mitchell's lied about it being considered as a tank rifle, it's not. It's a sporting rifle, and was never considered to be used as a tank rifle. That is the only lie involved.
4. $500 is a pretty good price for a rugged and reliable bolt gun. A Mini-14 costs more than that, a Remington 700 is more, a Savage 110 is more, etc, etc.
5. It's just so 'cute'.
My suggestion is to keep an eye on auctionarms or gunbroker if you want to snag a deal on one. Sometimes they will go for around $400.... if you can catch one on there.
mudslinging79
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mitchels rifles are refurbs cut down to carbine length.... in a nutshell. just pick one up at big 5 and cut it down, same thing for bout $200
cracked butt
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$500 will still get you a decent Swedish 94/14 carbine which I guarantee is much better made than the Mitchell's rifle and it will only go up in value.
ElToro
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get a FR8 you can get them under 300. mine shoots inside 12 inches with my bad vision and open sites with surplus ammo at 100yds.
last time i was looking at mitchells they had vintage overpriced k98s AND new factory made in serbia mausers.
or get an action cheap and build your own or have a gunsmith do it. you can get into a fun little project for <$500 OR skies the limit depending on your budget. in any caliber you want.
last time i was looking at mitchells they had vintage overpriced k98s AND new factory made in serbia mausers.
or get an action cheap and build your own or have a gunsmith do it. you can get into a fun little project for <$500 OR skies the limit depending on your budget. in any caliber you want.
I realise it is not cut down but it is the same concept a lot old Mausers the only thing wrong with them is the rifling is worn at the last four inches of the bore. Add a set of receiver aperture sights and dovetail the barrel for a front fire sight and you have very effective rifle and a stock pile of ammo for the same price as the Tanker. The Tanker is essentially a custom Mauser for 500 dollars one has to wonder about the quality. How good is the new Barrel they are using and does it justify that price tag?
Mike
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i'd instead spluge, spend a little extra on a really nice M44, put a synthetic stock with a buttpad on it, and spend the $350 you have left over on ammo.
you probably won't see any significant difference in accuracy, you can restore the rifle if you want to, and the M44 action, although less refined, is probably more rugged than the Mauser.
you probably won't see any significant difference in accuracy, you can restore the rifle if you want to, and the M44 action, although less refined, is probably more rugged than the Mauser.
Atla
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Well... the M63 has several things going for it.
One, it's brand spanking new. And made with todays technology, not five decades ago. So the tolerances will be a lot better.
Two, it's available in several different calibers. People complain about the 8mm, well than get it in .308 or .243. Not to mention the other calibers are very popular American hunting calibers. No hard trick to find ammo for them.
And the Mauser is simply a better design than the Mosin. ;p
One, it's brand spanking new. And made with todays technology, not five decades ago. So the tolerances will be a lot better.
Two, it's available in several different calibers. People complain about the 8mm, well than get it in .308 or .243. Not to mention the other calibers are very popular American hunting calibers. No hard trick to find ammo for them.
And the Mauser is simply a better design than the Mosin. ;p
mudslinging79
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there are so many different caliber barrels built for the mauser action, pretty much screw it on. well headspace, and other work, for the price of a mitchels, a mauser 98 and possibly 2 barrels, be like 3 rifles for the price of as mitchels.
dirtyjim
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its a surplus action with a new barrel & stock & in my opinion its way overpriced.
if i wanted one i would build it myself because i'm cheap & i enjoy building my own rifles
a matching yugo m24/47 is about $145 shipped from J&G or good condition m24/47 from centerfire is $115 shipped.
if i wanted 8mm i would go with the matching rifle then shorten, recrown & re-install the front sight. if your not capable of doing the work yourself your gunsmith should do it for $65 or less.
any other caliber i would buy a a&b barrel for about $80 the re-contour it to the military profile & cut if off to the correct length.
depending on the condition of the stock i would either bleach it & refinish or buy a new one from boyds & cut the front section down to the correct lenth.
at $170 a new stock & hg from boyds would actually be the most expensive part of the build but i'm sure i could pick up a unissued stock for 1/4 of that or less.
if i wanted one i would build it myself because i'm cheap & i enjoy building my own rifles
a matching yugo m24/47 is about $145 shipped from J&G or good condition m24/47 from centerfire is $115 shipped.
if i wanted 8mm i would go with the matching rifle then shorten, recrown & re-install the front sight. if your not capable of doing the work yourself your gunsmith should do it for $65 or less.
any other caliber i would buy a a&b barrel for about $80 the re-contour it to the military profile & cut if off to the correct length.
depending on the condition of the stock i would either bleach it & refinish or buy a new one from boyds & cut the front section down to the correct lenth.
at $170 a new stock & hg from boyds would actually be the most expensive part of the build but i'm sure i could pick up a unissued stock for 1/4 of that or less.
LeibstandarteAdH
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The sad thing is thats not a joke, thats what they really do.
Atla
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Guys.
It's a NEW action, new barrel, new stock, new sights, everything. Nothing on it is surplus nor 'chopped' or anything else.
The only problem with it, is that Mitchell's lies and says it was designed as a tanker rifle. It wasn't. It was designed as a civilian sporting rifle, because civies couldn't own military guns. The most obvious fact about this is that if it was designed to be a military gun, it wouldn't have so many different calibers. That and AK's are like $100 on the world market.
Yes - I suppose you could take a m24/47 or m48 and chop it down. And I reckon really there is nothing wrong with that, if you want to go the cheap way. But if you want to rechamber it for a different round - it's going to go up in cost.
-I- personally, don't want to. I'd prefer to have a nifty brand new woods rifle.
The price isn't astronomical, it's actually a fairly good price. A Mini-14 costs more, a Rem 700 and Savage 110/10 will be around the same price if not more.
So the only reason worth complaining about on this rifle, is Mitchell's false advertising. And hey - that happens. A lot, especially among mil-surp dealers.
Every shipment they get of ammo, rifles, pistols, gear, etc 'may be the last one so stock up now! OMG!'.
Guys.
It's a NEW action, new barrel, new stock, new sights, everything. Nothing on it is surplus nor 'chopped' or anything else.
The only problem with it, is that Mitchell's lies and says it was designed as a tanker rifle. It wasn't. It was designed as a civilian sporting rifle, because civies couldn't own military guns. The most obvious fact about this is that if it was designed to be a military gun, it wouldn't have so many different calibers. That and AK's are like $100 on the world market.
Yes - I suppose you could take a m24/47 or m48 and chop it down. And I reckon really there is nothing wrong with that, if you want to go the cheap way. But if you want to rechamber it for a different round - it's going to go up in cost.
-I- personally, don't want to. I'd prefer to have a nifty brand new woods rifle.
The price isn't astronomical, it's actually a fairly good price. A Mini-14 costs more, a Rem 700 and Savage 110/10 will be around the same price if not more.
So the only reason worth complaining about on this rifle, is Mitchell's false advertising. And hey - that happens. A lot, especially among mil-surp dealers.
Every shipment they get of ammo, rifles, pistols, gear, etc 'may be the last one so stock up now! OMG!'.
Atla, I have to admit that I was sorely tempted on a 8mm short rifle of which you describe. I thought it was well worth the money. When I came back the next day is was gone, so someone else also thought it was good to go. I have a couple of 27-47s and 2 k-31s and a mosin 44 but somehow this just looked and felt good, if you can get over the hype of Mitchells and military arms.
cracked butt
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Try one of these instead- like I said in an earlier post, they are far better made than anything made by the Yugos, undoubtedly more accurate, a lot less recoil, and to top it off, they were the 'tanker' rifles of the day often used by cavalry units.
The best thing is that the one listed below probably won't sell for much more than $400 because it has been improved with a aperture sight.
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=96673285
I'll with hold what I think about mini-14s, but a rem 700 or a savage is a much better rifle than the yugo, what's more you can easily and readily mount a scope to them. If the barrel is too long on a remington, have a gunsmith shorten it to your liking for under $50.
The best thing is that the one listed below probably won't sell for much more than $400 because it has been improved with a aperture sight.
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=96673285
I'll with hold what I think about mini-14s, but a rem 700 or a savage is a much better rifle than the yugo, what's more you can easily and readily mount a scope to them. If the barrel is too long on a remington, have a gunsmith shorten it to your liking for under $50.
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