MBC .357 Zinger or Action?

[Denny Crane]

I have loaded and shot 3k PPC#2's with BE mostly in .38 Sp cases. I recently bought another old Trooper .357 that I learned while I had it in the Ransom Rest doesn't like that round so I started experimenting. I mainly shoot steel plates at about 100'.

I am wanting to load more in the .357 cases and at faster speeds. I need to order some more bullets and would like others advice on which ones and how they load them.

I am looking at the 140 gr Zinger's and 158 gr Action bullets, both brinell 18.

What powder and how fast have others been pushing these without problems?

The powders I use the most have been Tite Group and Bullseye but I have some 231 and H110.

Thanks

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I use a lot of the 158 gr. Action. With 5.6 gr. of Unique, I get an avg of 1008 fps out of my 6" King Cobra and zero leading.

 

[Denny Crane]

I wish they could bundle the 158 gr bullets.

Have you tried the lighter bullets?

 

[ColtPythonElite]

No, I have not tried the lighter bullets. I figured the higher speeds might bring on leading.

 

[RhinoDefense]

Leading has nothing to do with velocity. Bullet hardness, sizing, lube choice, alloy hardness, powder type deal with leading issues.

 

[Striker Fired]

I know this doesn't follow the thread completely but I shoot these 140gr "zingers" in my Beretta 9mm(barrels slugged .357),using AA#5 I shoot them at full power without any leading and great accuracy.

 

[Quoheleth]

Unique is good stuff, but if you really want to get velocity up try AA#9 or 2400. Some say they like Win296 or H110, but those don't give much room to lower charges. With AA#9 and 2400 you have more room to play with.

Instead of lighter, go heavier. I love MB's 180gr .357 bullet (I forget the name of the bullet) for steel. My GP100 loves 11.3gr AA#9 under it. Heckuva thumper on steel.

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[MissouriBullet]

I wish they could bundle the 158 gr bullets.

I bet they would if you asked them to. 816/597-3204.

Brad

 

[Striker Fired]

Ha ha busted.....^^as always it never hurts to ask.

 

[Hondo 60]

I've tried Tite group with 357 Action.
Even at a very high (almost max) load you just don't get the speed outta that combination.
I've gotten just over 1000fps, but not much more.
Also, Tite Group & the Blue bullet lube are VERY smokey.
Almost as bad as Black Powder.

I've used Lil Gun too - now that will kick some butt!!!
1300+ fps.

I've also tried the Strikers (180gr) but there really isn't much data out there.
At least not that I could find.

357 Action are great for accuracy & no leading with Tite Group or Lil Gun.
Sorry no experience with Zingers or BE

 

[Denny Crane]

Don't mind getting busted like that. I didn't do the math but thought maybe anything over 150 grs would exceed the 65 lb weight limit. Maybe you just cut the quantity back a little?

Thanks for the tip!

 

[zxcvbob]

158 grain cast bullets with 8.0 grains of Herco.

 

[Quoheleth]

Search here on THR for some 180gr data. I know it's there because I was one of the contributors to that thread.



Here's a little help to start:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=603936&highlight=180+357+magnum

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=505227&highlight=357+magnum

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=514251&highlight=357

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