MD CCW: Another update

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Kharn

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More fun in Maryland, I recieved a copy of the Licensing Division's Policy/Procedures manual (all ~280 pages of it) along with a very interesting printout that lists a breakdown of permit holders by race, sex and occupation. That report is 5.5 megs when made into a PDF file and I dont know how long I will be able to have it hosted (my ISP has a 5 meg limit, I think). Could someone give me a hand with the hosting aspect?

My website: www.chesapeake.net/~mcfadden/ccw

Some interesting factoids:
In Maryland, the following are the numbers of persons with CCW permits for the listed occupation/reason:
5 white female "housewives"
5 white male "Union Reps"
1 black male bodyguard
4 white male and 1 black male "engineers"
339 white males, 49 white females, 86 black males, 15 black females, 1 Asian male, and 2 unknown males with Personal Protection/Death Threat listed as their occupation/reason for permit
6 white males and 2 black males have "Legislature" listed as their occupation/reason for permit
1 white male has "Senator" listed for his occupation/reason for having a permit. (Mr. Sarbanes, or a state senator, I wonder who that is)
1 white female has "chemist" as her occupation.
35 white males and 13 black males have "Funeral director" as their occupation (anyone remember the LawDog story about Big Momma? :evil: )
61 white males have "Plumber" CCW permits.

10 white male gun collectors have CCW permits
23 white males and one black male have permits due to being a "Gunsmith"
173 white males, 7 white females, 2 black males, and one Asian male have permits due to being "Firearms Dealers"

27 white males and 30 black males have their occupation listed as "Minister"

The real interesting stuff:
Correctional Officer: 608 WM, 43 WF, 1235 BM, 122 BF, and 14 AM have permits (total: 2024)
Judge: 103 WM, 4 WF, 24 BM (total: 131)
Retired Police: 5988 WM, 140 WF, 1009 BM, 39 BF, 11 AM, 1 "I" (I presume "Indian", as in Native American) male and 3 unknown males (total: 7191)
Security Guards: 2437 WM, 240 WF, 3855 BM, 1097 BF, 41 AM, 3 AF, 5 IM, 2 IF, 18 Unknown males, 4 Unknown females (total: 7702)
Special Police: 697 WM, 55 WF, 501 BM, 73 BF, 2 AM, 3 IF, 1 UM, 1 UF (total: 1344)
Policeman: 1016 WM, 37 WF, 440 BM, 40 BF, 14 AM, 1 IF, 11 UM (total: 1559)
Court/Commissioner (one category): 48 WM, 7 WF, 12 BM, 3 BF (total: 70)
Bailiff: 33 WM, 15 BM, 2 BF (total: 50)
and a bunch of other minor groups (retired judges, retired COs, etc)
This gives a total of ~20150 people related to the government or paid to carry arms and thus having a CCW permit related to their occupation.
There are only 34883 active permits in the state, so thats 60% of all permit holders.

Now, how in the world do 5 white, female housewives find themselves in possession of valid handgun permits? I dont think that their permits are directly related to their "occupation", but then why arent they under "Personal Protection/Death Threats"? Same thing with the one female, white chemist with a CCW permit. How the heck did she get one?
Now does anyone think there are only white plumbers in MD? I bet a few "minority" plumbers would love a CCW permit, but are they not applying for them, or not being issued the permits?

Lots of questions, very few answers, I'll find some more info to post in a day or so.
Kharn
 
Glad you got a response. Have you tried asking MCDL or MCSM for help with hosting? I know you have been in contact with at least Ed from MCDL. I'll be happy to ask MCSM to add it to their WEB site. Send me an e-mail.
 
Kharn, you can host that sucker on my site. Expect EMail within minutes.

One thing I just got finished explaining to him in EMail yesterday: a common pattern we see in a lot of Calif agencies is that permit issuance to gov't employees will be racially neutral, while issuance to "peons" will be anything but. Given the usual high minority rates in gov't jobs, it sometimes works out that MORE minority permits go out, if the rate of "peon issuance" is low enough.

It appears that's exactly what we're seeing in MD. Good news is, it appears the records are already divided by job type so it'll be easy to spot this.
 
Airwolf: Usually the Feds, like Air Marshals, Treasury Police, etc from what I can tell.

Anyone else notice that the latest letters were written on Parris Glendenning-marked letterhead? He left office like a week ago, guess these guys never got he message that a more pro-gun gov is in town. :evil:

Another note: the Governor appoints the members of the "Handgun Permit Review board" (the five people that decide if peons can have a permit), this might help us if we can get Ehlrich to appoint five people that just rubber-stamp every application they see until the legislature gets the message.

Kharn
 
Something tells me that those 5 housewives are probably married to legislators or senators.

Why does a funeral director need a CCW more than me? To protect themselves from the occasional corpse that sits up on it's own? Are they afraid that the corpse is gonna try to take someone else with them?

I'm a plumber of sorts, I make things flow downhill from time to time, maybe I can use that on my application. I know first hand that the utility turner offer occasionally gets a gun pointed in his/her general direction.

Thanks for the info.
 
Bbrins: Search the LawDog files for the Big Momma (might have the name slightly wrong) story on thefiringline.com, it has to do with LawDog clearing leather at a funeral. Its a doozy, so please have a soft surface on the floor near your computer so you dont hurt yourself if you fall out due to laughing too hard.

Kharn
 
Re: "special police": I know of several California sheriffs who are handing out reserve deputy status to cronies to help excuse their getting CCW. It's possible we're seeing a variation of that trick in MD.
 
Jim: I think the Special Police thing is covered in the procedures manual I have, I'll look for it tomorrow. There's some other pages that I have earmarked to scan and email to you that I think you will find interesting.

Kharn
 
I always had a hard time finishing a single LawDog file because of the laughing.:D That one was pretty funny. I've heard stories from a family friend that was in WWII about bodies sitting up and expelling gasses. I can"t seem to figure out how to type what he said it sounded like, sorta like a really big belch and yelling at the same time.
 
Letter to Gov. Ehrlich

How do we get a letter or petition out to our Governor?
Something to the effect of:
"Our continuing vote for you is contingent upon reform of the CCW system, specifically by appointing 5 new members of the CCW board who will approve permit applications for average citizens of Maryland."

Or something like that.
C-
 
I think that

after he is in office and things have settled down somewhat a phone call to his office might be in order.
 
Any details on the restrictions of these permits?
The only person that I know who possesses a MD permit is a security guard. He's restricted to carry during working hours only.
I'd bet that the plumber and chemist are dealing with lots of money. Union reps-that looks like ripe pickings.
The fun part would be the details on the politicians. "Why, senator, do you have a permit, while none of your fellow senators has one?"
 
interesting story

On the 20th of Oct 2002 I read a smalll article buried in the Local section of the Sunpaper. It was about a guy that was shot to death in the city.

Seems that this guy had pulled up to a red light and another car was behind him. Well, this 19yo walks up to the front car and pulls a pistol out and starts blasting at the first car.

The guy in the second car pulls out his pistol and shoots the 19yo. The article stated that the guy in the second car was a CCW permit holder.

I read the article and the day after I thought I would like to re-read it and maybe get some more details. Well, my wife threw it out. So, I go to www.sunspot.net to see the article again....it's not there.

This month I get my NRA magazine and the article is there, so, I go on line again to try to get some more details...no good.

My question is this, since I cannot get a permit, simply because I dont fit into MD's narrow list of qualifications...just WHO was this person?

Union guy?
ex-cop?
politician?

It had to be somebody connected, if it wasn't the anti=gun totally liberal Sunpapers would have made a stink about it.
 
My advise: don't go to the governor just yet! Wait until y'all have some REAL dirt, which Kharn is well on his way to scoring. Wait a couple months, minimum.

The real payoff will happen when you start linking permitholders to campaign contributions. Link enough money, add in patterns of apparent racism, and you'll give the Gov the political ammo he needs to go your way.
 
Kharn, thank you for your hard work and persistence in revealing the evil plaguing the Maryland CCW system. The Maryland "may" issue system is rife with corruption. I noticed some of the permit holders qualified simply because they are gun collectors. I would be curious as to any other details you might glean about this group of CCW holders who hold permits simply because they are gun collectors.

Again, thank you for your efforts.

Baron
 
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Baron: Someone a while back posted about asking the MSP for a gun collector permit, I forget which board it was on. The permit would only be good while transporting or exhibiting the collection, and would only be issued if the individual had a collection exceeding $10k in value. Pretty much useless, in other words.

Poodleshooter: I have the list of restriction codes used by the MSP, but they are not listed with the "occupations" in the statistical printout. The procedures manual has a page or two dedicated to each of the most common "professions", included in each of those mini-sections is a line which states what restrictions will be applied to each "profession", I believe the restrictions on the other "professions" are up to the Handgun Permit review board.
A chemist exposed to lots of money is quite odd, since most purchases are done with purchase orders and not paid in cash and a firearm is not the wisest item to have in a lab filled with reactive chemicals and open flames. Some of these "professions" are obviously BS and probably do not mandate carrying a firearm as a condition of employment, such as chemist, housewife, engineer, etc.

Kharn
 
Kharn, interesting how a Marylander could go about obtaining a carry permit on the basis of having a gun collection valued in excess of $10,000. That would make the CCW the most expensive permit in the country.

Baron
 
The chemist may have one because of her easy access to drugs. Some chemist deal with narcotics for reasearch. If she has medical grade narcotics in her lab that may be the reason she was issued the permit.

A customer came into the range in was shooting at on Saturday and informed the range office that he and his son had ccw permits and were carrying. (As is required when you enter the range) So I asked how both of them had their permits. They got their permits because they owned a towing business, the father said all his sons had their permits.

I'm assuming they are a Repo company.
 
JeepDriver:
There are 18 white males, 6 black males and one Asian male with CCW permits issued for being "tow truck drivers". Does anyone else find it odd that ~75% of the truck drivers with CCW permits are white? I'm not very experienced with the tow-truck driver crowd, but in my area of the state it seems to be more 50/50.

Interesting group: "Home Detention" with 4 white males and 7 black males. Does anyone have a clue about what that occupation is?

Oh, Locksmiths: 26 white males. Anyone want to bet that the locksmithing profession in MD isnt 100% white males?

Bookkeeper: 1 white female. Interesting, probably a whistle blower, but why isnt she under the "Accountant" profession (with 53 WM, 4 WF, 11BM, 1 BF, 2 AM)?

Coin dealer: 13 white males.
Antique Dealer: 14 white males, 2 white females.
I doubt those are exclusively white occupations...

Kharn
 
I just uploaded the first 8 sections of the procedures manual, and a copy of the possible restrctions on permits, to my website. Check it out at the address above. I'm going to try to do a few sections a day until I get it all online.

Kharn
 
Kharn...

Just wanted to say thanks for all your hard work. Hopefully one day we will have a "shall issue" thanks to your efforts. Keep up the good work!
 
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