Member consensus on Taurus

[Y-T71]

"Taurus QC is better than in the last 10 years"

Fine show me the facts

S&W, Ruger, Colt, FN, CZ, Walther, Springfield arms all do it.

Fine show me the facts

Taurus has been making firearms for 70 years
Lotta companies have.
Who cares show me the facts
Do your "facts" show how many people actually use their gun (that they bought because it was inexpensive, and just squirreled it away somewhere hoping it works when the need it.
Or did you already tell me your personal opinion?

I did use facts, personal consensus and opinions as well as first hand accounts

Ok, what facts; still no facts

Well, when all the old guys die off we won't need facts. That's our problem right there.

Now that's a fact that has nothing to do with the price of tea in china, but a fact none the less! At least you're getting close to something factual

Well people seem to be complaining a lot less

That's not fact it's opinion. Show me the facts. Fact: People are buying guns at an unprecedented rate in the last couple of years.
Opinion: they are doing very little to no training (ammo costs money after all) so to "feel like they're doing something" they buy a solitary, inexpensive gun and hide it hoping it works when the have cause to pull it out of their sock drawer.
How will they ever know if it works? Sure, of course, they're complaining a lot less, no kidding.

Here, let me give you 16 different website example with 20 more examples waiting from other websites citing flat out rip offs, non existent QC, non functional "brand new guns" and the months spent getting the run around, and still not having a functioning firearm. Many from 2018-2021 not the 70 years ago when they got a bad reputation just like S&W, Ruger, Colt etc

Smith, Colt, Sig...... All do it too..

Yeah, I quit.

Arguing with a on the internet is dangerous, they drag you down to their level of stupidity and then beat you with their many years of experience.

 

[LiveLife]

a new Taurus revolver. Never shot one or known anyone who has owned one. Always heard it was a brand to steer clear of because of quality problems and bad customer service.

The reason for my inquiry as I'm interested in a double action swing out cylinder .22lr. Bad customer service is the reason I no longer consider Kimbers

So after 7 pages, did we answer the OP's question?

 

[LiveLife]

FWIW, here are some newest video reviews I could find on Taurus 22LR revolvers





And 3" model

 

[Styx]

"Taurus QC is better than in the last 10 years"

Fine show me the facts

"I did use facts, my personal experience, AND the overall consensus from a pothera of personal reviews and comments from other owners. I also compared the factual number of firearms that Taurus manufacturers vs the small number of issues I've seen being reported overall. Several years ago it was common to see someone creating an angry and frustrated thread about their negative experience with Taurus; however, Taurus is producing more firearms today than they did back then, but complaints about their product are few and far between now. There is also that fact that they had several recalls, other safety issues, and lawsuits in the past, but I have not seen any or know of any serious safety issue plaguing their current line up. That is another fact in which one can logically deduce that Taurus improved."

S&W, Ruger, Colt, FN, CZ, Walther, Springfield arms all do it.

Fine show me the facts

They all have released new models that had teething issues, recalls, voluntary upgrades, or other issues. It's easy to verify with another one of your 2 minute searches. You even conceded as much in your initial replies, but now you ask for proof?

Taurus has been making firearms for 70 years
Lotta companies have.
Fine show me the facts
Do your "facts" show how many people actually use their gun (that they bought because it was cheap; not expensive, that's different, but cheap and just squirrel it away somewhere hoping it works when the need it.
Or did you already show me the facts/personal opinion?

That has zero to do with the context in which I made that statement. You purposely took it out of context for the sake of bring argumentative. Within context, I stated that "Taurus has been making firearms for over 70 years" to point out that many of the bad reviews in this thread being given by people who actually shot their guns weren't necessarily based on current Taurus models therefore they should not be used to judge whether Taurus's current offering are suffering from the same issues.

I did use facts, personal consensus and opinions as well as first hand accounts

Ok, what facts; still no facts

I have pointed out several facts that helped me come to the final conclusion that Taurus improved. You have just chosen to ignore and dismiss them.

Well, when all the old guys die off we won't need facts. That's our problem right there.

Now that's a fact that has nothing to do with the price of tea in china, but a fact none the less!

First, you are misquoting me. Again, you cherrypicked statement and took it out of context for the sake of being argumentive. You stated:

"Fact is: they have a reputation for bad product and will never, completely, get out from under it."

That was your opinion. My response and opinion was that if Taurus continues to improve, their reputation for being "bad" will die with those who had bad experiences.

Well people seem to be complaining a lot less

That's not fact it's opinion. Show me facts. Fact: People are buying guns at an unprecedented rate in the last couple of years.
Opinion: they are doing very little to no training (ammo costs money after all) so to "feel like they're doing something" they buy a gun and hide it hoping it works when the have cause to pull it out of their sock drawer.
How will they ever know if it works? Sure, of course they're complaining a lot less, no kidding.

You asked for clarification on how I came to the conclusion that Taurus improved. One example was the fact that complaints dropped off from where they were while good reviews and sales increased in my experience and based on what I seen from multiple sources overall. When Taurus threads pop up, the majority of bad reviews are based on the past, the majorty of positive reviews are based on the present. Those are facts.

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The main problem and complaint I see and hear about Taurus nowadays is with their CS and slow turnaround time. Not saying they are equal in quality or reputation compared to some other firearm manufacturers. I am saying that in my opinion and experience, they are worth buying if you are okay the trade off of saving hundreds but possibly having to deal with bad CS if you are unfortunate enough to get a lemon.

 

[kerreckt]

I can only share my experiences. My (3) Taurus 357 model 66 3'' revolvers which are from the 1980's have been flawless. My (2) model 85's the same. Never had a problem many rounds through them and still very tight. PT140 I traded for a SKS that uses AK mags. Just didn't like the PT140. Never any problems. It just didn't feel right in my hand. I have a G2C (as does my son) we have put around 5k through them. No problems with these 2 guns. None! They run like sewing machines. I just got a GX4 TORO and have put 200+/- rounds through it, so far. Put a Holosun 507K on it....pretty nice. No problems and it feels better than the 365 and Hellcat that I tried out. I think it has the best feel of any gun of this type. Granted, I have not owned any of the earlier Taurus semi-autos but my experiences have been nothing but positive. I have never had to send anything back for warranty work and have never dealt with customer service. So I have no opinion of these two. These are my experiences. Best wishes!

 

[lee n. field]

Guy comes into thread, states he's not gonna argue, yet argues still. Finally gives up and says couldn't possibly care less about the topic. Good times.

Welcome to Internet gun social media!

 

[rust collector]

After 7 pages, everyone has had time to weigh in and we are starting to get more heat than light. We all want best for least $$. Few of us will ever test the limits of guns we purchase. Thanks to those who offered the benefit of their own experiences.