Men who shot Border Patrol agents wore black military-style garb

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Very scary implications.

Men who shot Border Patrol agents wore black military-style garb
http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=3554012&nav=HMO5bl2Q

There's new information about two Border Patrol agents who were wounded in the line of duty last Thursday.

Both officers were shot in the leg and Eyewitness News 4 has learned that the assailants were wearing black military-style uniforms.

Sources say that investigators found food, water, and supplies. It's believed there were more than two shooters.

Santa Cruz County Sheriff Tony Estrada says the assailants were dressed in commando-type clothing.

"People don't dress like that unless they really know what they're doing and what they want, which is even worse," Estrada says.

Could those armed men have been members of a team of rogue Mexican commandos called the Zetas?

The Zetas are former members of the Mexican Army. They were trained by the U.S. Army at Fort Benning, Georgia to battle against the powerful drug cartels.

Some of those commandos changed sides and are now working with drug smugglers.

Sheriff Estrada says, "It's a possibility. I'm sure the FBI and other agencies are looking at that because of the way the individuals were dressed. Because of the way they were set up, they were protecting a group of individuals for whatever reasons. They were obviously sending a real strong message."

The two agents, who are still hospitalized, were checking out tracks about a mile and a half from the border. They came under fire from shooters using high-powered weapons.

Sheriff Estrada says, 'Now, more than ever, Border Patrol as well as other law enforcement officers have to be vigilant, especially if the men who ambushed the agents last week are members of Zetas. It is very scary. Obviously, they are well trained, well equipped, and they know their mission."
 
I still think the Minutemen should be out there first. Take the high ground, stake out the known trails, and when the ninjas come up the road from south of the border, be prepared to "support" the Border Patrol.
 
I still think the Minutemen should be out there first. Take the high ground, stake out the known trails, and when the ninjas come up the road from south of the border, be prepared to "support" the Border Patrol.
How about quid pro quo? The BP's comments about the Minutemen were none too kind.
 
i dont know if this is even remotely related, but i was talking to a sheriff's deputy on the TX border and he said that there was a paramiltary group from Mexico that used to be a part of an elite Mexican government anti-drug squad that even came to the U.S. to train with JTF6.

they were at that time an anti-drug unit with the Mexican government. some of them turned to the "bad side" and are now known as the "Zetas" or "Cetas", i don't know how it is spelled.

anyway, these guys are working for the drug lords now on the Mexico side. but they are also performing alot of kidnappings on the U.S. side and taking people back to Mexico for ransom.

these guys are supposedly paramilitary and very knowledgeable with how U.S. Law Enforcement works on the U.S. side of the border since we trained them.
 
they were at that time an anti-drug unit with the Mexican government. some of them turned to the "bad side" and are now known as the "Zetas" or "Cetas", i don't know how it is spelled

Zetas, and I brought them up on this thread: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=144053

Read this article:
Mexico's Zetas: Soldiers defect to drug cartel

This being so close to the border and these activities, you need to look no further than how Columbia is right now and realize that we need to push our legislature to push harder for border control and restrictions. Seems like whenever we need to, something like NAFTA/CAFTA is pushing us back.
 
O.K., as to the boogiemen, the Zetas. Now no one knows who did this. All we have is hand-wringing speculation from a LEO who just got his rearend handed to him.

Further, no one can point me to a Zeta. Seems to me that the d34dly Zetas are more smoke than fire and make great scapegoats for law enforcement.
 
Further, no one can point me to a Zeta. Seems to me that the d34dly Zetas are more smoke than fire and make great scapegoats for law enforcement.

Hmm.. so outside of all that is happening in Nuevo Laredo and the fact that the governments on both sides of the border take it as fact of who the zetas are, and that there is evidence of such - you feel it is not.

I am not saying you are wrong, but what are you basing this to refute those claims?

Also I agree they are scapegoats to a degree, that is the degree of a mass failure on both goverments.

PS - the Zetas thread is speculative as far as who did this particular crime. The fact there are Zetas are not. It is an indication of what the border is increasingly becoming due to rich and powerful drug cartels.
 
Both officers were shot in the leg and Eyewitness News 4 has learned that the assailants were wearing black military-style uniforms.
"People don't dress like that unless they really know what they're doing and what they want, which is even worse," Estrada says.

Who says they know what they are doing? Black, military-style uniforms in the end of June on the Mexico-U.S. border? Wheew! Sounds like it'd be a little hot to me! :p
 
"People don't dress like that unless they really know what they're doing and what they want, which is even worse," Estrada says.
I've gotta wonder about a county sheriff who would actually allow himself to be quoted saying something this ... uh ... dumb. Estrada evidently hasn't attended a gun show recently ... Why, at the last one I attended, I noticed several guys dressed in black commando-style "uniforms" ... and even at an Oregon fast-food joint, one McDonald's assistant manager looking quite tactical ...

(not to make light of the incident; it is, though not unexpected for those following events on the border, further evidence of growing problems ...)
 
Don't police in this country wear outfits like those described in this thread? It's odd that they wounded the agents.
 
"Why, at the last one I attended, I noticed several guys dressed in black commando-style "uniforms" ... and even at an Oregon fast-food joint, one McDonald's assistant manager looking quite tactical ..."

After all, we have to be prepared to "bug out"" when the "SHTF" during our expedited nutrition aquisition op and heaven knows ya cant do that unless you are wearing the right kinda pants

Hope the agents are healing up OK.
 
"People don't dress like that unless they really know what they're doing and what they want, which is even worse," Estrada says.

I'll be sure to get tactical the next time I go to haggle over used cars, or the next time I'm on a date.

jmm
 
"People don't dress like that unless they know what they are doing . . ." So, the shooters are students of a carbine class?

Clothes do make the man. Tacticool.

El T., wouldn't that be Coyote Brown?
 
ody, some say there is irrefutable evidence of Bigfoot and take it that there is evidence of such. No one has produced a body.

Chicken Littlites whine and shudder about the "Zetas." No one can put a foot on a body. Show me something other than the active imagination of law enforcement which uses hysteria, whether it is full auto Glocks (which we busted here on THR and made the coppers look quite foolish) or Zetas, to lobby for bigger budgets.
 
Hmmm... another one of those conspiracy theories. So you pretty much say that no, there have been no Mexican Federal agents that have changed over to the drug cartels and that the Mexican government's fight in these areas is actually a part of a planned manipulation of creating hysteria for the US Fed LEO's budgets. It's an easy dismissive, but not based on facts that I can see thusfar.

Although this is also contrary to the general motivation of both governments to keep the borders open as they are for the $$$ at play keeping it that way.

Actually I could care less about what a "zeta" is or not. Fact is the border area has grown more violent and organized by heavy cartel money, and many have seen an increase in sophistication of the bad guys. I understand (and often can agree) your sentiments on agencies spinning news to increase budgets - but don't let that blind you to what is going on.
 
ody, the border with Mexico has always been violent. Gun culture icons have written extensively on their violent encounters that were far worse than what is going on today.

Whether there are Mexican federal agents that work for the narcos, I have no doubt. I work for many Mexican nationals. The stories they tell me of local and federal law enforcment in Mexico make me believe almost anything.

However, I do draw the line at invisible boogiemen that are used to justify more governmental power (budgets) and media hysteria. No doubt the border is violent as it always has been. No doubt Mexico is corrupt.

I doubt the existence of Invisible Ninjas terrorizing the countryside at their whim. Show me a body.
 
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