Oklacoyotekiller
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Michael Moore. 100% idiot.. why care what he thinls?
michael moore 90% of guns owned by white people
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Deanimator
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The history of gun control in North America is the history of violent White supremacism.
From the very start, gun control here has been about White supremacists (in and out of government) trying to create a "safe working environment" for themselves.
Indians, Blacks, and later the Irish, Jews and anyone else disfavored by the majority power structure were seen as an existential threat, and laws, such as the slave codes, Jim Crow laws and the Sullivan Law were passed to ensure that not only were the disfavored classes not an offensive threat, but incapable of defending themselves from majority violence intended to "keep them in their place".
If you want to see amazing displays of racism from White "liberals", be a Black person who refuses to support repressive gun controls when a white "liberal" anti-gunner orders you to.
I've repeatedly seen online anti-gun advocates appeal to the assumed racism of pro-gun people. This included one declaring that people opposed to gun control were like "over-educated New York Jewish lawyers fighting prayer in the schools".
A few years ago, an anti-gunner launched into an incoherent face to face tirade against me, telling me that the NRA should be banned. I replied that the last time organizations started getting banned, we somehow misplaced 6,000,000 Jews. His response? He "wasn't so sure that was such a bad thing".
Scratch an anti-gunner, find a Klansman... or a Nazi.
Twmaster
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Also remember the 'Saturday Night Special' laws are racist. The idea was to ban cheap guns thus keeping them out of the hands those poor inner city folks. This denied the poor single mom and others from getting an affordable firearm.
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Beers for life!
MaterDei
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Here in Houston the ranges are most certainly not white only. There is a plethora of freedom loving folk of many shades of brown.
Queen_of_Thunder
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So our folk have more guns than the white dudes. Interesting. Guess you folks need to start spending more time in the gun shops.
Just an observation from this hillbilly-mountain granny of Cuban-Spanish-Northern European and a few others yet to be discovered American Ancestry.
like trained parrots most white people say oh what does race have to do with it. it has everything to do with it. we will lose this war declared on us because whites will not admit there is a war nor will they name the group behind it all. since the immigration reform act forced busing civil rights act voting rights act the great society etc in the sixties the whites have been under attack. disarming whites before they wake up to the fact they are being eliminated thru illegal third world peasant immigration is the goal and they will win
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The longer I live, the more I find that people are basically the same. For the most part they want to live happy lives, raise families, and see their children do the same. Race, intelligence, culture, it doesn't matter.
I have noticed the same. Nathan and Deanimator. I'm actually pretty middle of the road when it comes to social, economic, and foreign policy outlook. I have noticed that my conservative white friends who have acquaintances of various "race" other than white are genuinely friends with those people for who they are. Meanwhile my liberal friends who have acquaintances of various "race" seem to typically have them almost as an accessory. They are just token friends. Now this certainly doesn't apply to everyone, but it's something that I've noticed.
When it comes to firearms and demographics, I feel there is a lot more to it than merely race.
I have noticed the same. Nathan and Deanimator. I'm actually pretty middle of the road when it comes to social, economic, and foreign policy outlook. I have noticed that my conservative white friends who have acquaintances of various "race" other than white are genuinely friends with those people for who they are. Meanwhile my liberal friends who have acquaintances of various "race" seem to typically have them almost as an accessory. They are just token friends. Now this certainly doesn't apply to everyone, but it's something that I've noticed.
When it comes to firearms and demographics, I feel there is a lot more to it than merely race.
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Did Moore explain exactly why he is ashamed of his ethnicity and why he has his particular hatred of guns; and if so did he sit down the double cheeseburger and wipe the gravey off of his chin first?
I wish he and Mayor Bloomburg would eat lunch together, in a mean kinda Hannible Lector sort of way...flava beans and a nice Chianti of course.
I wish he and Mayor Bloomburg would eat lunch together, in a mean kinda Hannible Lector sort of way...flava beans and a nice Chianti of course.
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Texan Scott
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Not unless Jane Fonda died, and I missed it.
I'd be willing to concede he's #2. A *lot* of #2.
Kind of like how 90% of people are for gun control. It is just a false blanket statistic that people won't argue with because they're ignorant.
If by some chance that were true, and it isn't, that would just mean that we need to find a way to arm more blacks, asians, and hispanics!
If by some chance that were true, and it isn't, that would just mean that we need to find a way to arm more blacks, asians, and hispanics!
SabbathWolf
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So If I am a white boy, but I own "black" guns.....does that make me racist?
Now I hadn't considered Hanoi Jane.
Deaf Smith
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Well let's take some of Porker Moore's thoughts here.
Say 90 percent of the guns are owned by whites as he claims.
Ok, lots of them are gun collectors and that accounts for a majority of the guns owned by whites. So what?
Yet a majority of crime IS caused by blacks (or at least they are the ones arrested and jailed in high precentage) for, get this, GUN CRIMES where shootings, car jackings, and robberies where guns are used.
So that means only 10 percent of the guns are used by the majority of criminals to do most of the crime.
So is this racist or is it a symptom of a deeper problem? That is the problem of broken homes and no fathers to show the young men to right way that is.
See that is the real problem. We have so many youths with no guidance from a family as to the right way to conduct themselves (and yes there are white youths with the same broken homes.) And where do they end up/ GANGS. Gangs give them an identity the broken homes don't It gives them guidance (even if the guidance is bad) that is lacking in the broken homes.
And what caused this? WELFARE. Yes the 'Great Society' of LBJ.
Welfare has destroyed so many families where the fathers just walk off and leave the families. And low social mores (as in shacking or 'hooking' up) has led so huge increases of illegitimate kids (white as well as black), again with no fathers. Plus the lack of incentive to work because of welfare is now become generational and there are whole generations of families who have never worked but instead been on the government dole from cradle to grave.
Porker Moore would rather use a simplistic thought to ban a object when the real cause is social. But then he lives in the fantasy world of Hollywood and gets his applause from his fellow liberals in Hollywood. That is all that matters to him.
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Say 90 percent of the guns are owned by whites as he claims.
Ok, lots of them are gun collectors and that accounts for a majority of the guns owned by whites. So what?
Yet a majority of crime IS caused by blacks (or at least they are the ones arrested and jailed in high precentage) for, get this, GUN CRIMES where shootings, car jackings, and robberies where guns are used.
So that means only 10 percent of the guns are used by the majority of criminals to do most of the crime.
So is this racist or is it a symptom of a deeper problem? That is the problem of broken homes and no fathers to show the young men to right way that is.
See that is the real problem. We have so many youths with no guidance from a family as to the right way to conduct themselves (and yes there are white youths with the same broken homes.) And where do they end up/ GANGS. Gangs give them an identity the broken homes don't It gives them guidance (even if the guidance is bad) that is lacking in the broken homes.
And what caused this? WELFARE. Yes the 'Great Society' of LBJ.
Welfare has destroyed so many families where the fathers just walk off and leave the families. And low social mores (as in shacking or 'hooking' up) has led so huge increases of illegitimate kids (white as well as black), again with no fathers. Plus the lack of incentive to work because of welfare is now become generational and there are whole generations of families who have never worked but instead been on the government dole from cradle to grave.
Porker Moore would rather use a simplistic thought to ban a object when the real cause is social. But then he lives in the fantasy world of Hollywood and gets his applause from his fellow liberals in Hollywood. That is all that matters to him.
Deaf
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I wonder if he forgot that he has white armed bodyguards? Just another hypocrite yahoo who thinks they know what they are talking about.
AethelstanAegen
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Haha. I was going to point that since 90+% of what Michael Moore says is complete drivel, we probably should be very leery of anything he says, including this statistic.
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Bobson
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No disrespect, but literally nothing in this response answers the question, what makes gun control laws racist?
You're implying that racial minorities can't buy guns because they live in cities, where gun laws tend to be strict. That doesn't make the law racist, it just makes the constituents dumb. They vote for their reps, and suffer the consequences.
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