Might as well laugh about it...I guess.

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:DSomeone at Sportsman's Warehouse must have a sense of humor. While I was in there this morning looking for something for my grandson's birthday, I wandered back to the handloading department. These are what I found on the shelves where Sportsman's Warehouse used to have bullets:
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BTW, they were made in China!o_O
 
They have rearranged my SW as well. Every shelf and end cap that use to be used to stock ammo now has some other type of merchandise. They have now started housing ammo except shotgun behind the customer service counter with a white board at the entrance listing all available ammo for the day.
 
They have rearranged my SW as well. Every shelf and end cap that use to be used to stock ammo now has some other type of merchandise. They have now started housing ammo except shotgun behind the customer service counter with a white board at the entrance listing all available ammo for the day.
Same thing at my LGS.. they
house the ammo behind the counter and now it's mostly empty shelves. They have a billboard by the counter stating what's available.
 
I think the ammo companies are having a market place disconnect and do not really and truly understand the depths of the shortage and the bare shelves. If they did then why in the world do they advertise new ammunition lines, Hornady Subsonic for example? Are they teasing us, ha, ha, look at what you cannot purchase! I do not get it. Why not concentrate on producing the ammo types already in short supply equaly to a Sasquatch in rarity if not more so. I will believe in Big Foot before I believe Hornady Subsonic .30/30 exists in reality. Or a flying saucer in Roswell. (Which by the way, I was sitting a well out there as a young geologist circa 1982 and an ancient gentle fella told me matter of factly that he was one of the men who carried the bodies back to the base and was told if he ever mentioned it he might would regret it).
 
They have rearranged my SW as well. Every shelf and end cap that use to be used to stock ammo now has some other type of merchandise. They have now started housing ammo except shotgun behind the customer service counter with a white board at the entrance listing all available ammo for the day.

Costco used to do that last spring when the staples were sold out. Things like beans, rice and TP were posted as sold out as you approached the entrance. They had sumdood out there with a bullhorn telling jokes to keep everyone entertained while they stood in line for 30 plus minutes. Did you hear the one about Florida man.....
 
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Hey I see some Speer Gold Dot and TSX. Doesn’t matter what you have, those are good bullets to trade with. If the prices weren’t jacked all to hell, I would have bought them.
 
I've never seen them empty but Wal Mart has empty shelves to. The only LGS that I see with at least some ammo are older / mature companies that I'm told have solid relationships with distributors and may get preferential treatment.

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No serious retail operation will tolerate empty shelves (unless they actually are getting the needed merchandise and just selling out as quickly as it's received and put up on the shelf...).

Guns, bullets, t-shirts, cans of beans... each item fights for it's share of available shelving and I doubt most stores have much of a profit margin at all. In fact, when Stuart Varney describes retail operations (traditional storefronts) as being in an Ice Age he's not far off. I'm just one more guy that looks to the internet first when I'm needing this or that for myself or my small fishing business. Traditional stores are hurting (and have been - long before the current panic situation...).

I'm not needing any shooting supplies (and have sufficient ammo and the weapons for it so I'm not in bad shape at all...). Seems to me that if you really need ammo, finding a store employee with a sympathetic ear and asking him (or her) to call you the moment the ammo comes in... isn't a bad idea at all. If I really, really needed those supplies... there'd be a financial incentive attached to that phone number you leave with the individual... But that's just me.

We're definitely living in "interesting times"...
 
Maybe people should stop shooting up the ammo they have. I understand new gun owners but the rest of us don’t need to practice that bad. Every other commodity that is scarce or expensive is conserved why not Ammo?

If one's personal situation is such that he shouldn't shoot from his personal stock, sure.
OTH, for the guys who bought cheap and stacked deep for times such as these ... that is, the point of the exercise was to carry on ... then shoot on, indeed.
I guess it all depends on one's situation.
 
Last in a sporting good store a few weeks ago. 280 ammo and steel and bismuth shot shells were all that was available.

Lots of empty shelves....

They did have some handguns, but most of them were poster children on how not to care for guns. Rust, pitting, bare spots, etc. I don't think they would have taken them in or presented them for resale except for the current situation. And they were looking for top dollar on them. Big pass.
 
for the guys who bought cheap and stacked deep for times such as these ... that is, the point of the exercise was to carry on ... then shoot on, indeed.

I have plenty. Stored it up for years cheap. Switched to .40 because I was buying Ranger T and HsT for 12-15 bucks/50. And 500 rd boxes of cci standard or good aguila for 13-15 bucks. Some even after covid was started.

But now that people are paying stupid prices one has to Consider just selling it instead of shooting it up. At least I do.

The one thing I should have bought more of is skeet shells 19 bucks for 100 at walmart last year. They were never sold out that I seen in any past shortage. Now they are. Or are inflated online. I won't run out. But I won't shoot 2-300 on a weekend either.
 
I don’t even bother going to the Sportsman’s Warehouse, Cabelas or LGS. Why bother when they don’t have anything that I am interested in? Maybe I will visit a gun store in a few years.
 
But now that people are paying stupid prices one has to Consider just selling it instead of shooting it up. At least I do.

You are kidding I know, but I would not advise that. The only people who are paying high prices are the folks who have no ammo and are desperate and thus buying from the "resellers" and profiteers whose minions circulate among the retail outlets buying every box that hits a shelf further exacerbating the shortage. Which would then be you (the folks paying high prices due to desperation) if you sell it off unless you sell off your guns along with the ammo.

Ammo from legitimate retailers has gone up about 15%. If making 15% on my money were that important I would have invested in something other than ammunition. And if sold, then what, buy some more at the now higher price? It will be a cold day in Hell before I sell anythig, well, it is a cold day in Hell looking out my window, but I am still not selling anything, not selling ammo, not selling guns.

And I have backed off the shooting throttle to conserve.
 
You are kidding I know,

I still have my first car. 20 some years later. And every car I've owned since except one that burned to the ground. Lol. So yeah I'm not selling much of anything. But it is tempting. For 4 years I've sent links to cheap ammo to people I know who shoot. Great deals. And not one bought any that I know of. They "couldn't afford it" even though they drive 70k trucks that will never haul or pull anything, wear different clothes every day. I try to tell them that you can actually wash and reuse clothes. They don't listen. they eat 50 dollar meals daily while I pack tuna. (Is worth packing tuna just to piss off the other high browed folks in these meetings....very amusing. Clearly they never ate canned meat in hay fields and tobacco patches as a child....)


Id be more worried that some nut would buy it online and do something stupid with it than worrying running out myself honestly
 
Maybe people should stop shooting up the ammo they have. I understand new gun owners but the rest of us don’t need to practice that bad. Every other commodity that is scarce or expensive is conserved why not Ammo?

When my wife passed away at the age of 61 it really made me think about my own mortality. I'm 69 years old and if I put off doing things I enjoy maybe I'll never get to do them. I have enough ammo for a couple years and I'm going to the range as much as ever. I am more conscious of round counts, but I'm not going to stop shooting.
 
When my wife passed away at the age of 61 it really made me think about my own mortality. I'm 69 years old and if I put off doing things I enjoy maybe I'll never get to do them. I have enough ammo for a couple years and I'm going to the range as much as ever. I am more conscious of round counts, but I'm not going to stop shooting.
I am with you. I'm going to keep shooting the ammo I have. I shoot less rounds when I go, but I'm not going to quit the hobby I enjoy.
 
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