Military posers and wannabes

[sa-xd-russ]

Just read through most of the topic. I may not be on the up-and-up about military units, etc.. but you can always just "tell" when someone is lying.

On a side note, I'm proud to say that I am in the process of joining the Army. Had my physical this past Thursday and I'm waiting for a waiver for my knee surgery. Will be going 11X!! I can't wait.

I had 6 months of service in the Air Force before I got cought up in that force reduction crap. I'm hoping I can stay in the Army for as long as possible.

A big hats off to all others who have served. Nothing greater than serving yoru country.

 

[sterling180]

sa-xd-russ: Well good luck to you, in the US Army and I hope your new career, will be alot better and successful there, than in your previous one in the Airforce.

 

[Nashmack]

I was in the Army, not for long though. I was chaptered out in the early stages of OSUT. I will be reenlisting as soon as I get my finances taken care of and get a waiver for my chapter.

 

[Lebben-B]

Really? Did they slice 'em out to the regiments on a permanent basis?

Each BCT now has it's own Sig company in the Brigade Support Battalion. 35th Sig deactivates in a year or so.

Mike

 

[45Guy]

Newbie

Hi, I'm new to the forum and just found this post. Wondering if you guys could answer this question. I was enlisted in the Marine Corps wnet through 2 of the 3 phases but was discharged because of health problems. I have a DD214 and all the other paperwork. I wear USMC T-shirts sometimes and have occaisionally been asked if I was in and I say Yes but explain the circumstances. Does this make me a poser or not?

 

[Biker]

IMO, and take it for what it's worth, if you were discharged honorably, stand proud.
edit: I was never a Marine, just an Army cannon-cocker. Don't want any misunderstandings.
Biker

 

[Fu-man Shoe]

You may be a marine at heart, but you didn't make it.

You tried though, and that's worth a lot. Stand tall.

 

[Archie]

Hey, I was on the SWAT team...

Sweeping, Wiping and Assorted Tasks.


But I wasn't there long enough to get the Green cleaning rag.

 

[shell70634]

sa-xd-russ
when you get tired of 11 series , EOD makes a great career field and i think they still recruit from active ranks. look into it.

 

[joab]

I was in and I say Yes but explain the circumstances. Does this make me a poser or not?

Not.
Trying to explain a chest full of medals collected in that time would make you a poser.

 

[RustyShackelford]

US military service/records

In the US Army you are considered a honorable discharged veteran if you served at least 180 days on active duty. The policy may be different for other military-service branches(USMC/USMCR/NG/US Navy-USNR/USAF/Air National Guard/US Coast Guard/etc). In my area last year a sworn police officer killed in the line of duty could not be placed in a state veterans plot because he did not meet the active duty service requirements(he was an honorable discharge from the USMC Reserves).

For details about military records, service requirements, etc see:

www.military.com www.firstgov.gov www.nara.gov www.army.mil www.va.gov

Rusty

 

[RocketMan]

45Guy,

It doesn't make you a poser, but you aren't a Marine.
You did not make it through boot. Sorry.
But unlike many, at least you gave it a shot.

RocketMan
Fmr. Sgt. USMC/USMC(R)

 

[Lebben-B]

In the US Army you are considered a honorable discharged veteran if you served at least 180 days on active duty

That's not just the Army, it's a DoD regulation. And it's not an Honorable Discharge, it's classified as a General, Under Honorable Conditions Discharge. Recruits separated at the Basic/Boot stage are classified as Entry Level Sparations (That's the Army term, I don't know it's equivalent in the USMC.) ELS's are given when a Soldier/Marine "washes out" for whatever reason - Medical, failure to adapt, even homosexuality. The exception is a punitive discharge in conjunction with UCMJ action, in which case the characterization of service block on the DD214 will read "General, Under Other Than Honorable Conditions."

Mike

 

[ATAShooter]

Funny short story... My Dad was 26th Inf, 328 Reg WWII ETO campaign. He didn't take well to draft dodgers or "wannabees". We were in Atlantic City in 2003, and Dad always wore his MOPH hat that has a big Purple Heart on it. This guy comes over, fairly older fella, but not as old as Dad, and said "I was WWII also". Dad said "What Division?" The man replied " We weren't Divided, we were all one platoon". Dad said " Go to hell you damn Zoot Suiter". I thought for a minute there Dad was gonna pop him with his cane...

 

[V4Vendetta]

"Zoot Suiter"


What's that?

 

[BigRobT]

*Of course, this doesn't apply to fighter pilots ... who are typically identified by the fact that they always wear polo shirts and big wristwatches while on liberty (especially in the Med) ... and have been known to let women know, in the first few seconds of an encounter, of their exalted flyboy status ...

Hey now !!! Take it easy on us Airdales !!!

 

[ATAShooter]

V4Vendetta...Back in the '40's there were draft dodgers that used to go to dance clubs or sneak into USO dances to hookup with the ladies (especially lonely soldiers girls ). They wore these outrageous outfits that was a double breasted high waist suit with a panama type hat with a big feather in the hatband and black & white wing tip cordovans, not to forget the 2 foot long pocket watch chain. They were Zoot Suiters. GI's would have loved to beat the heck out of them. For a somewhat depiction of them, Watch a comedy movie with John Belushi & Dan Ankroyd called "1941", You'll see exactly what a Zoot Suiter looks like. During the 40's there was a hell of a clash betwen Navy boys and "Original" Zoot suiters who were Mexican. It was called the Zoot Suit Riots of L.A. It was ugly.What Dad was referring to was the ones who were "wannabee" zoot suiters who thought it was cool. Kinda like a wannabee homey, like " Malibu's most wanted" type of mentality. Below is a pic of the modern day zoot suit,...The ones in the '40's had a tad more flair.

 

[Biker]

Yup, wouldn't mind feeding some knuckle to guys such as you describe.
Biker

 

[p35]

Anyone remember Admiral Michael Boorda? About 10 years ago, while CNO, he shot himself rather than face an inquiry into whether he was wearing unauthorized decorations. From what I remember, and I'm not an expert on this stuff, it was at worst an honest mistake about whether serving on a destroyer off the coast of Vietnam made him a combat veteran.

Makes it all the worse when some loser wears medals for something he was never even near.

 

[bill2]

speaking of wannabe's

Here's another one - fresh out of the hot steaming oven:

He's claiming to be a former Ranger who served in Iraq, but people are claiming he's bogus.

http://www.indepundit.com/archive2/2006/05/winter_soldiers.html#

 

[Weimadog]

Seems like this Jesse Macbeth wants some drama in his life.

http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article13.php?id=261

Jesse Macbeth, formerly a Special Forces Ranger in Iraq, is now active with Iraq Veterans Against the War in Tacoma, Washington. The Rangers are elite units sent door-to-door in Iraq to combat the insurgency. They were also sent into Fallujah to crush all opposition to the occupation of that city. Justice recently interviewed Jesse.

How did you end up in the military?
I grew up on the streets. I got into trouble for fighting. The same judge that I'd been dealing with my whole life told me that I wouldn't have to do adult time if I signed up for the military immediately. Sometimes I kinda wish I went to jail instead.


How did you become a Special Forces Ranger?
Basic training was easy for me. Growing up on the streets, I was used to running from cops. I was used to not eating for days. I got picked to go to Ranger School.


What did your division do?
I was in the Third Ranger Battalion. Our job was to strike fear in the hearts of the Iraqi people.


We would go into people's houses and plow down entire families. We would interrogate people. If we didn't like the answers that they gave, then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we didn't like, then we'd move on to the rest of the family. They could've been innocent people.


We would leave the bodies in the streets and blame it on the Shi'ites or the Sunnis. [In Fallujah] we were ordered to go into mosques and slaughter people while they were praying. I won't go into full detail because I'm still haunted by the memories.

 

[bill2]

Seems like this Jesse Macbeth wants some drama in his life.
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Yeah, it looks like his regular life was such a downer he had to invent this whole other life. It turns out he wasn't even close to being a Ranger, even as this report says "a Special Forces Ranger". wow, he must really be special. there have now been numerous blogs ripping this guy a new one. Oh well, he gave the anti-war crowd a big thrill for a week or two.

 

[grizz5675]

I know a guy who is in Iraq right now and he doesn't know the maximum efficient range of his own personal weapon.When i was in the military i went in as a grunt -11b,but was attached to S1 operations with HHQ, at that time i was not working in my mos and today couldn't tell you what mos i was working in. There's a misconception that to be in special forces you have been in a re-con group, this is not true.There are people who have been considered special forces who have been paper pushers in such things as operations-supply-intellagence and many other areas.So this guy who didn't know what his mos was ,very well could have been prior special forces especially with a few beers under his belt.While i was in a infantry unit when i was in air assault a guy was just getting out with a vietnam tour behind him.The guy was so messed up on drugs ,he could barely communicate.Many of the guy's gave him **** calling him a dumbass.Well to make a long story short ,this dumbass was special forces with many confirmed kills.Never completly judge a book by it's cover is what i guess im trying to say.

 

[Hokkmike]

Just an ironic note that I am from Washington (Tacoma) and now live in PA. I hear the "full auto" stories all the time.

 

[CB1961]

I had a cousin that I think used to lie just to have something to say. Sounds like some of you may have met him. I lost track of him a few years back and I'm making no attempt to find him. I like to be ethusiastic about firearms, but I try to keep my knowledge up to speed with my talk. Getting a kick out of talking about rifles, handguns, etc. is ok, but making up stories about who you are or what you have done is not. I'm new to this forum so hopefully I can enjoy it without made up stories. So far I am enjoying everything I read.