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Tactical posers........

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Abominable No-Man, Mar 21, 2004.

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  1. Abominable No-Man

    Abominable No-Man Member

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    There is this guy I know at work who is a supporter of the RKBA and 2A. He is ALSO quite opinionated, and has some.....unusual...ideas. The latest one has been to buy a Hughes 500 (a.k.a. "Little Bird"), mount a couple of those semi-auto M60's from Ohio Ordnance Works on it, and complete the package with a black paint job and a couple of cordless drills mounted to the triggers- the cordless drills have a lozenge-shaped attatchment mounted to the drill shaft that will be used to pull the triggers.

    The guy owns about 10 pistols, all tactical black, with light rails and lasers-
    none fired. He also owns a few rifles- also, none fired. He has badgered me about going to the local range and having a shoot-off(to see who is the best shot-sounds like fun....), but everytime I get it lined up, he begs off. He talks non-stop about combat. His favorite topics for discussion are something to the tune of "If a little kid pointed a gun at you, would you shoot him?" or "What would you do if your wife was being held at gunpoint? Would you shoot her and then shoot the guy who was holding her?" (kind of like the scene in "Speed").

    This guy called me yesterday morning and asked me again "When are we going to have that shoot-off?". I told him that I had just gotten my RIA .45 and I was going to go shooting that very day to try it out. Dead silence for a few seconds, and then he responded with something about not being able to do it today because all he had was some 185gr SWC's:confused: .

    Anyway, I don't know if this is original, but I have been using the term "Tactical Poser" to describe this guy. "Mall Ninja" doesn't really fit this bill, IMO. So here's my definition:

    Tactical Poser (n ) TAC-ti-cul Po-zer def: One who attempts to impress others by feigning an intimate knowledge of procedures and equipment related to, used in, or involving military or naval operations that are smaller, closer to base, and of less long-term significance than strategic operations.

    Sound good? Sound like anyone you know? (Please avoid references to Hardin/Gunkid/whatever he's calling himself now.....:D....oh all right, some of you are gonna do it anyway, so go right ahead.......)

    ANM
     
  2. OEF_VET

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    Yeah, sounds intimately familiar. When I was doing private security/EP, we had one working for us, although he can be more appropriately be reffered to as an idiot who was full of bull.

    He had been in the active Army and was actually in the Guard at the time. However, his claims to fame were quite a stretch of the imagination. He claimed to be an active duty E-9, on a Homeland Security assignment with the TN Dept. Of Homeland Security. He claimed to keep an Army-owned M4 carbine in the trunk of his car and that he had an Accuracy International .338 Lapua at the house. He also claimed to have done a meth lab raid with a local Sheriff's Office, by rappelling from a helicopter. According to that S.O., no such raid ever occured. He also told us that he had to leave work one day and that a Blackhawk would be landing up the road to pick up for another such mission. Also, he claimed to have been onboard a helicopter, picking survivors off of the World Trade Center, moments before it collapsed. (The last claim, he made in front of a news crew, luckily they didn't have the camera with them -althought they were going to go get it and put him on tape. Luckily, he had to go before they got back.)

    The truth is, he was an E-5, a medic, is part of a local National Guard Hospital unit, and is their retention NCO. He had been an Air Defense Artilleryman during GW1, serving as a crewman on a Vulcan ADA system.

    People like that I refer to as 'Special Feces'. They claim to be some form of Spec Ops type, but they're usually full of ****.

    Frank
     
  3. KaceCoyote

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    Eh through a friend of a friend. Met him twice. Went on and on about how he made all these impossible shots with his SKS. yadda yadda, ranted and bitched and moaned about how the M4 carbine and M16 sucked this and that and the other thing. Long story short, I lamented to a friend of mine with an M4. After a big long bitchfest I finally got him out to the range. Though he couldnt bring his 'sniper system' SKS and only his regular one. Yeah ok whatever he could hardly fire the damn thing and did nothing but wander around during live fire to bug me about how the wind or the dust or the UFO had messed up his group.

    Anywho best he managed was about 4" at 50 yards. The M4 pressed about an inch and change at a hundred yards with surplus ammo and open sights. Not bad. My 'popgun' Marlin wasnt much worse, and no it wasnt the rifle. I'm just not the excellent shot I want to be...yet.
     
  4. Daedalus

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    There is nothing wrong with wanting to put a gun on a helicopter. Spending that much money on it is pretty crazy though. I would love to buy one of those gyrocopter homebuild kits and put a nosemounted semiauto 1919 on it.
     
  5. Texas Bob

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    If "people" know what your hobby is, it seems like you attract this type of person over the years. One of my "present" co-workers is just plain BAD, no don't ask him, he'll tell you what he owns and how good he is. A "common" denominator I've seen over the years is "any" excuse as to why no one has seen them shoot. I shoot every week, and I've invited "all" of the "legendary" people I've met to come to our Monday night idpa social. After years of "excuses" by different people, I've learned to "shut them up" by borrowing a quote from Clint Smith. "Every police officier killed in the line of duty was armed, mere possession of a firearm does not guarantee success." If I can not see you practice, please don't waste my time with useless what ifs.
     
  6. Wedge

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    My favorite was the guy I met that had served Presidential Security Detail and was given a ceramic/polymer Glock 5. 100% invisible to metal detectors (of course) The public isn't allowed to own this gun, military only, but when you serve Presidential Security they let you keep it because you could be called back in at any time...he was just that good!:rolleyes:
     
  7. 7.62FullMetalJacket

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    I was going to post, but I just got a call on the FM band, the blackhawk is on its way. Where did I put that telephone booth with the Robbins 5.11 gear :rolleyes:
     
  8. Archie

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    Not a title so much as...

    a description.

    My son heard the phrase and told me about it.

    "All foam, no beer."

    I rather like it.
     
  9. Soap

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    I think the "tactical" crowd is cool as long as they know that they're being silly. For many people, it is just a big joke. For example when my good friend Skunky gets a new carbon fiber implement to "be more tactical", that is hilarious. Now when you start to become serious and have daydreams about shooting out of a hostage situation or making a civvie Little Bird, you're definitely not joking around; you are a loser. The worst is when a member of SEEL 37.5 or the Chairborne Rangers start making things up.
     
  10. Mr. Clark

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    I met a guy once who tried to explian his 6 week stay at book camp by saying his leaving wasn't so much a discharge as it was a transfer to another government agency who recognized and had a need for his talents. Of course, he couldn't duscuss which agency and what talents. :scrutiny:


    I like that. I guess it was one of those super quiet ones that you wouldn't be able to hear?

    Some people just think everyone else is stupid. Why else would they think they could get away with that?

    Now, back in my spec ops days, we used to... :D :neener:
     
  11. Wildalaska

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    Does he post here:evil:

    WildnyahhahaAlaska
     
  12. Logan5

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    I'll have you know that I led a crack team of small plastic commandos from age six to twelve! ;)

    I've also done a lot of reading on small unit tactics. If you're working with a really small unit, you need a very expensive watch and a really fast imported sports car to have any success.


    I'll be here all weeks folks, the eight o'clock show is completely different from the six o'clock show...
     
  13. Standing Wolf

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    Personally, I'd rather shoot, but it's okay with me.
     
  14. goldust

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    we used to call a poser a soldier of fiction.
     
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    There's another name for this kind of person:

    Pathological Liar.

    Mentally Ill. Give a wide berth.
     
  16. tommytrauma

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    I knew a guy some years ago, claimed to have been a comissioned officer in the special forces, a trainer of the FBI HRT, all sorts of stuff. He toted around a baretta 92 which he claimed was issue, said that he had a federal CCW appended to his drivers license, all sorts of stuff. He was all of 22 or 23 years old at the time.

    I sat him down one day, and politely explained that I knew he was lying, and asked him to stop. We talked about it for quite a while, about how he just wanted people to look up to him and such, and he agreed to stop saying stuff like that. Less than a week later, he's telling me about a special op that he had been on. ***? Don't you remember admitting to me that it was all a lie?

    It truely seems to be pathological with some of these bozos.
     
  17. Fudgie Ghost

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    Tommytrauma: it absolutely is.

    They have been telling lies so much, for so long, they don't even know themselves what's true and what's not. I've had a few dealings with such people and, quite frankly they give me the heebie-jeebies.

    Like I said, it is a MENTAL ILLNESS, and not really that funny. They need serious help.
     
  18. TBeck

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    The one I met had an MP5 in his trunk and could walk on scene at any hostage situation and take charge. Oh yeah, he also knew the launch codes. :eek: Being 30 pounds overweight was just part of his cover, see?

    Like the Great Bill Paxton said, "Would a spy p!$$ himself?"
     
  19. BerettaNut92

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    Shhh...that was me...don't tell anyone :neener:
     
  20. CrazyIrishman

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    Just my .02 cents but I would stay away from him or do something to make him stay away. This goofball sounds like trouble .If you did manage to get him to the range how do you really know if he's "safe" and wouldn't cause problems?

    Just because he owns a few guns doesn't mean he is safe,or have "common sense"!

    On a side note,
    When I was alot younger I failed my physical for the service when I went to enlist. Now as much as I would've liked to been accepted I NEVER went around telling people lies while misrepresenting myself and dressing up to play the part.

    IMHO its disrespectful to the vets and current members of our military. Same holds true when some goofball claims he's a LEO(and dressed like one) when he isn't. It can cause problems for a real LEO.
     
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    ignore
     
  22. tommytrauma

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    Skunk, the funny thing is i don't doubt he posts on places like here and arfcom. Something I always keep in mind when looking for advice online.
     
  23. Don Gwinn

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    The ones that kill me are the guys who really were soldiers and served more or less honorably, but still feel they have to make something up. That guy above was a Vulcan crewman and a medic, and for some reason he thought he had to make up stories about being a SEEL. . . . that's pathetic. The fact that he thinks his service was that worthless almost makes ME think so. :rolleyes:
     
  24. olyAR73

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    Funny you should post this...

    There's this guy...I dont even know his name but the sight of the man makes my blood boil. My first encounter with the man was on our public rifle range. Hes on a 500 yard range full of bench rest shooters having his wife throw clays with a hand thrower. In between missing the clays with his shotgun, he would quick draw a hi-cap auto and rapid-fire at the clays on the ground emptying a mag every time. He would continue to practice his best quick draw to his wifes amusement as everybody else walked down to check their targets. When someone would jump his ass he would say "whats the problem, man? It's unloaded." Finally 2 big burly kids shooting next to me walked over and told him they were gonna rough him up if he touched a gun again while we were down range.

    Our range is like Dodge City, no safetys, fees, ect. Everyones left to their own devices and 99.9 of the shooters out there always do the right thing. Except for this nut.

    Anyway, it wouldnt be so bad except I keep bumping into him. He leans on the counter at my favorite gun store and mishandles every gun in the display case, making sure that the clerk knows that he knows everything there is to know...He dont know jack.

    Today Im out eating lunch with my wife. In walks this idiot. I start grumbling under my breath. My wife tells me to stop being an A-hole and that man has never done anything to me.

    God, I hate that guy.
     
  25. PATH

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    It is a sad thing when a person thinks so little of him/herself that they make up these wild stories. I don't get angry I just feel very bady for these poor souls. One hopes they don't end up trying to act out a delusion.
     
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