military survival rifle ?
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They don't put "survival rifles" in the kits anymore. Current doctrine is to rescue the air(wo)man as soon as possible. The Springfield M6 was never a military issue, rather a civilian legal copy of the military M6 which I believe was made by Ithica.
Grunt
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I've trained C-130 crews and F-15 fighter pilots on the M9 and in some cases, an M-4 carbine. If anything, they might have an M-4 with them (this is pretty common with C-130 crews) but as far as I know, the lawn-dart jockies are armed with only an M9 pistol.
borrowedtime69
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dont give up!!!
dont give up on the M6 they can still be found at pawn shops, gun shows and other places that sell used guns. i have mine i got just before they stopped making them. here's mine:
for my 2 cents, i think that the M6 is the best survival purpose gun that was ever made for its compactness, caliber/guage range, simplicity, reliability, and accuracy. to me, i would be willing to pay over the market value for one if i didnt have one. - Eric
dont give up on the M6 they can still be found at pawn shops, gun shows and other places that sell used guns. i have mine i got just before they stopped making them. here's mine:
for my 2 cents, i think that the M6 is the best survival purpose gun that was ever made for its compactness, caliber/guage range, simplicity, reliability, and accuracy. to me, i would be willing to pay over the market value for one if i didnt have one. - Eric
MMcfpd
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How did the Armalite/Charter Arms AR-7 fit in to that picture? Was it only a civilian market derivative?
atomchaser
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I believe the survival rifle was more of an Air Force concept back in the 1950s or 60s. Back in those days, we had a lot of long range bombers flying alert over very remote areas of the globe and if you went down, it might take a while to find you. Under such conditions, you might need a rifle for subsistance hunting or self defense from predators. With the satellite tracking and communications available today, it is unlikely that an aircrew would be stuck on the ground for more than a day or two before rescue.
borrowedtime69
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M6 Trigger
well, it is funky, but once you learn to place your hand far enough to the rear of the "pistol" grip so you can fit your trigger finger in the little trigger "divit" and gently sqeeze it, it works great. some say they find the trigger hard to deal with, but i figured it out and the trigger is not a problem.
right after i got it i took off the rediculous trigger guard to allow better access to the trigger.
oh, one othere thing, if you get one, dont wrap the barrels in paracord like some do, i tried that and even without wrapping them too tight it affected the accuracy from slightly bending the barrels. i took off the cordage and it went right back to its former accuracy.
well, it is funky, but once you learn to place your hand far enough to the rear of the "pistol" grip so you can fit your trigger finger in the little trigger "divit" and gently sqeeze it, it works great. some say they find the trigger hard to deal with, but i figured it out and the trigger is not a problem.
right after i got it i took off the rediculous trigger guard to allow better access to the trigger.
oh, one othere thing, if you get one, dont wrap the barrels in paracord like some do, i tried that and even without wrapping them too tight it affected the accuracy from slightly bending the barrels. i took off the cordage and it went right back to its former accuracy.
Neo-Luddite
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The SA ones came out of the Czech Republic right? Real m-6 is an SBR by a few inches (I think) but otherwise pretty similar. Neat gun.
MilsurpShooter
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I always wondered how these were
http://www.henryrepeating.com/h002_survival.cfm
May not be military or anything close but it looks like a handy little thing to have... I've always been satisfied with the lever gun from them... One day
http://www.henryrepeating.com/h002_survival.cfm
May not be military or anything close but it looks like a handy little thing to have... I've always been satisfied with the lever gun from them... One day
azhunter12
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In I think in Dr. NO James Bond used one of the henry 'survival rifles' to blow up the helicopter and to kill someone. I havn't seen that movie for a while though. Azhunter.
TexasRifleman
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There is a Springfield M6 up on GunBroker but good grief, the bidding starts at $299.
Carl N. Brown
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M6 used by USAF had 14" barrels to fit under the
aircraft ejection seat. The civilian version has 18"
barrels--exactly 18"--for minimum legal shotgun
barrel length and the civilian version has the trigger
guard mandated by the lawyers. The original trigger
(I have always been told) was designed to be fired
while wearing winter mittens.
The M4 survival rifle was a bolt action, box magazine
fed, wire stock, detachable 14" barrel, .22 hornet
issued with FMJ ammo. A few of these were accidentally
released on the surplus market before someone realized the
minimum legal rifle barrel length is 16"
Armalite made a survival rifle for the USAF that was
bolt action, detachable barrel, .22 hornet, and the
parts fit in the stock. It was approved but was never
procured or issued in any significant numbers.
Armalite developed the concept into the AR7 Survival
Rifle for the civilian market, which is .22 LR, semi-auto,
16" barrel. The AR7 has been manufactired over the years
by Armalite, Charter Arms, Survival Arms and currently
(or lastly) by Henry. The oo7 movie From Russia With Love
came out when the rifle was still made by Armalite.
For survival purposes--usually vehicle breakdown in the
boondocks--anything to keep predators at bay, kill
game for food, or just keep one from feeling defenseless
will do. I like a 18.5" barrel, no choke shotgun that will
safely fire 12 ga Marine signal flares as a survival gun.
.
aircraft ejection seat. The civilian version has 18"
barrels--exactly 18"--for minimum legal shotgun
barrel length and the civilian version has the trigger
guard mandated by the lawyers. The original trigger
(I have always been told) was designed to be fired
while wearing winter mittens.
The M4 survival rifle was a bolt action, box magazine
fed, wire stock, detachable 14" barrel, .22 hornet
issued with FMJ ammo. A few of these were accidentally
released on the surplus market before someone realized the
minimum legal rifle barrel length is 16"
Armalite made a survival rifle for the USAF that was
bolt action, detachable barrel, .22 hornet, and the
parts fit in the stock. It was approved but was never
procured or issued in any significant numbers.
Armalite developed the concept into the AR7 Survival
Rifle for the civilian market, which is .22 LR, semi-auto,
16" barrel. The AR7 has been manufactired over the years
by Armalite, Charter Arms, Survival Arms and currently
(or lastly) by Henry. The oo7 movie From Russia With Love
came out when the rifle was still made by Armalite.
For survival purposes--usually vehicle breakdown in the
boondocks--anything to keep predators at bay, kill
game for food, or just keep one from feeling defenseless
will do. I like a 18.5" barrel, no choke shotgun that will
safely fire 12 ga Marine signal flares as a survival gun.
.
borrowedtime69
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AR-7 clone looks cool!
i found a tricked out version of the AR-7 that has lots of bells and whisltes so to speak, a Walther barrel, wire stock, etc.
heres a link to the site: http://www.majesticarms.com/ma2000.html
it wont store in the stock, but it sure looks like it has some "sex appeal"
also, you can buy replacement parts for the AR-7 that you have. -Eric
i found a tricked out version of the AR-7 that has lots of bells and whisltes so to speak, a Walther barrel, wire stock, etc.
heres a link to the site: http://www.majesticarms.com/ma2000.html
it wont store in the stock, but it sure looks like it has some "sex appeal"
also, you can buy replacement parts for the AR-7 that you have. -Eric
Check this out this bad boy;
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/springfield/M69501.asp
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/springfield/M69501.asp
Frog48
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Thats correct.
Glockfan.45
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I cant find a pic at the moment but Colt made a survival rifle based on the AR, the model 608. It had a 10" barrel and fixed tubular stock. The pistol grip was cut down by about an inch so it would fit under the seat cushion of the saber fighter jet. They would break it into the upper and lower half, and could store 4X20 round mags with it. If I recall right they only made 10 of them.
here it is
here it is
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