Misssouri Bullet Company - the high tek2 coated lead rifle bullet, experiences?

[_N4Z_]

I am a happy user of the pistol type offerings from MBC, have had nothing but good results with the .357 products.
Been away from this for quite some time though and discovered MBC is now making and selling coated rifle rounds that can be pushed to higher velocities of the gas checked range. Well, I ordered three different kinds for 30-30, 30-06, and 7.62x54r, because it seemed like a good idea at the time.
Not got them yet, chomping at the bit - should be another day or two wait.
Has anybody here used these things yet and would you be willing to share that knowledge? Would greatly appreciate some input. Thanks in advance.

 

[LoonWulf]

Ive had excellent accuracy across the board with them in my 9mm pistol as well as 300aac and 458 socom. Only issue i had was my 458 leaded badly. I gave them to another member and hes reported excellent results, so it was most likely specific to my gun.

The 245s, i wanna try in my 06 for amusement, but havent yet since ive got the aac.

 

[grandpawj]

The 200 grain coated "Odd Balls" runs in my Colt Gold Cup like *##p through a goose! Narry a problem. Haven't tried the rifle bullets yet.

 

[the count]

When I dont cast my own bullets I use the MB Hitek coated bullets for everything from 44 mag. to 454 Casull to 500 magnum.
Excellent stuff, no leading as long as you don't go over 1800 fps or so. Your mileage may vary. For full tilt magnum loads I only use jacketed.

 

[SARuger]

I tried the MBC 165g 30-30 coated bullet. I still haven't found the accuracy I was looking for a year later. My first advice will be to use good brass, that was my biggest issue. I tried to make some R-P cases work and the brass is too thin to hold the bullet without over-crimping.

I'm still working on it. I have some Win brass to try next

 

[_N4Z_]

That's good to know about the brass. Thank you.

 

[CoalTrain49]

I'm running them in all my handguns. I'm also using them in an M-1 carbine and a 357 Ruger carbine at about 1750 fps with good accuracy. No leading in anything I've used them in. Not sure about anything at higher velocities. I shoot jacketed in my .223.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I'm shooting the 165gr bullets from MBC in my 30-30 and they are shooting well. I got them before they offered coated bullets. I'm using H4895 and I'm able to hit empty 12ga hulls at 50 yards. (with a 4x32 scope)

 

[SARuger]

I'm shooting the 165gr bullets from MBC in my 30-30 and they are shooting well. I got them before they offered coated bullets. I'm using H4895 and I'm able to hit empty 12ga hulls at 50 yards. (with a 4x32 scope)

Not to hijack but what kind of velocities are you seeing with the H4895? I have only tried IMR 4227 and was seeing 1600fps with a medium charge.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Not to hijack but what kind of velocities are you seeing with the H4895? I have only tried IMR 4227 and was seeing 1600fps with a medium charge.

Since right now with that bullet I'm only loading for fun I'm keeping the velocities just under 1400 fps.

 

[_N4Z_]

Thanks for that info Mr. CD

 

[_N4Z_]

So I loaded up 10 rounds of x54r with the MBC 165gr (.3115) hi-tek bullets over 16gr. of 2400. I do not have a chrono, but from the filthy barrel and progressive drop in accuracy, I can safely say I need to pull back from the 16 grains.

 

[kcofohio]

_N4Z_, here is some good info about reloading cast bullets fo military rifles.

http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com...Cast-Bullet-Loads-for-Military-Rifles-Article

Cast bullet loads usually give a more useful zero at practical field ranges with military battle sights than do full power loads. Nothing is more frustrating than a military rifle that shoots a foot high at 100 yards with surplus ammo when the sight is as low as it will go! Do not use inert fillers (Dacron or kapok) to take up excess empty space in the case. This was once common practice, but it raises chamber pressure and under certain conditions contributes to chamber ringing. If a particular load will not work well without a filler, the powder is not suitable for those conditions of loading. Four load classifications from Mattern (1932) cover all uses for the cast bullet military rifle. I worked up equivalent charges to obtain the desired velocity ranges with modern powders, which provide a sound basis for loading cast bullets in any post-1898 military rifle from 7mm to 8mm:

 

[Wreck-n-Crew]

Just to add: your chamber lead, bore diameter and rifling all have an effect on cast bullet accuracy. Also velocity affects leading. I would suggest a gas check and keep it as close to or under 2,000 FPS. Also for real accuracy the bore riding portion of the bullet as well as nose should be sized to your bore before sizing the driving band portion. This requires bore slugging and dies that are not easy to come by FME.

See this thread for coated rifle bullet accuracy.....great read!....http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?315642-Accurate-PC-350-Yds-part-1

 

[NeuseRvrRat]

Just to add: your chamber lead, bore diameter and rifling all have an effect on cast bullet accuracy. Also velocity affects leading. I would suggest a gas check and keep it as close to or under 2,000 FPS. Also for real accuracy the bore riding portion of the bullet as well as nose should be sized to your bore before sizing the driving band portion. This requires bore slugging and dies that are not easy to come by FME.

See this thread for coated rifle bullet accuracy.....great read!....http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?315642-Accurate-PC-350-Yds-part-1

Good stuff at that link. The innovation displayed at the Cast Boolits forum always amazes me.

 

[Wreck-n-Crew]

Good stuff at that link. The innovation displayed at the Cast Boolits forum always amazes me.

Me too. Great bunch of guys too. the amount of great information seems endless. Not to mention a place to pick up a mold, lead,or any number of other things.

 

[NeuseRvrRat]

Me too. Great bunch of guys too. the amount of great information seems endless. Not to mention a place to pick up a mold, lead,or any number of other things.

Yeah, it's a little overwhelming at times. I went there to learn about how to start using the hi-tek bullet coating and the "how-to" thread was 100 pages or something. Information overload at times, but what a great problem to have!