model 12 win, is it a tournament grade?

[eastbank]

i went to a small gun show today and picked up this winchester model 12 in 12ga., it has a 30" barrel with a solid rib and a straight checkered grip and a smooth round pump handle with checkering. the finish on the wood(was nice wood) and metal is well worn and the butt stock has been shortened and a recoil pad added(alot newer than the shotgun). the serial # 569853 is the same on both halfs of the shotgun. it feeds and ejects dummy rounds with no problems, i think after a very good cleaning it will be a good shotgun. a friend who looked at it said it may be a tournament grade, what do you think? eastbank.

 

[horsemen61]

Pics ???

 

[Pit4Brains]

Vintage 1929.. May I ask how much you gave for it? I have a 1949 model and I'm trying to obtain a value for it.

 

[eastbank]

i forgot to add the pictures, the owner was asking 275.00 and i ask what his best price was and he said 250.00 and bought it. eastbank.

 

[loose noose]

Looks like a field grade to me, especially with the English stock. I believe the Tournament model has engraving on the receiver, and a pistol grip stock, not to mention the checkering on the stock. However I could be wrong. Looks like you got yourself a nice shotgun though.

 

[eastbank]

it has no engraving and may well be a field grade, but when it was new it sure would have been a looker with that wood. i know a man who does wonders with old wood finishes and will let him take a look at it and see what he thinks about redoing it not a total redo, but a good cleaning as i,m not going to refinish the metal. when handleing it against the other model 12,s i own it feels leaner and lighter like a 16ga md 12 i own. in the end i will leave it as a well used md 12 from a by gone age put back into service that deserves to go into the fields again to smell burnt powder and feel the thrill of the hunt. my field loads are 2-2/3 dr-1-1/8 #6 shot and they take rabbits and ringnecks out to 30-35 yds with no problems. eastbank.

 

[gunut]

looks like a tournament grade gun to me....hard to tell by the pics but could be a trap gun as the butt stock looks to have little drop....well worn but well worth the $250....

 

[eastbank]

i,ll take it along to the trap shoot later today and shoot a round with it, i didn,t pay attenion to the butt stock drop, it is less than a md 12 in 12ga i have,but the md 12 i compared it to is newer. eastbank.

 

[eastbank]

two more pictures of the stocks. i think i,ll have a repo win recoil pad put on it eastbank.

 

[gunut]

does it say TRAP anywhere by the serial numbers?...either on the frame or the extension...having the checkering cleaned out or recut is also an option....

 

[Armored farmer]

Nice find.
Looks like an old original mat rib.
Judging by the serial number, it is old. Mine is #146xxxx. If I remember correctly it is late '50s
I had a friend that lost part of his hand in a corn picker, and had to shoot an english stock just like that one. He and his wife are both members of Illinois trapshooting hall of fame. Both shot mod 12s.

 

[Pit4Brains]

Nice find.
Looks like an old original mat rib.
Judging by the serial number, it is old. Mine is #146xxxx. If I remember correctly it is late '50s
I had a friend that lost part of his hand in a corn picker, and had to shoot an english stock just like that one. He and his wife are both members of Illinois trapshooting hall of fame. Both shot mod 12s.

1954 to be exact.

 

[dbarky]

Good looking gun...hang on to it. I bought a Mod 12 in the early 70's, 30" full, nickel steel barrel. The serial # was 606---. It was in the rack of used guns at sporting goods store, handeled it, loved it...asked the price, owner said same as a new one $69.95. I didn't even hand it back to him. It was mine! I got wood from Fagen, I think, with the intention of making a trap gun out of it. I moved about then and a friend traded me out of it with about $800.00 worth of wood working equipment. I still have most of the equiment, but I wish I had thye Mod 12 back.

 

[ford8nr]

With that for-end and solid rim it could well be a trap model. Any model with a factory rim and unmolested barrel is worth well north of $250. Great deal on a nice gun. I have a trio of 12's...12, 16 and 20ga's. Now if I could only find a cheap M42 .410

 

[eastbank]

shot four rounds of trap tonight, shot a 90-100, two rounds with the BT-100, 46-50. one round with the new to me model 12, 23-25. one round browning trap, 21-25. i think my problem is i get tired, i am going to start working out with my upper body and arms to help me with the problem. the trap browning weights more than i am used to. eastbank.

 

[Armored farmer]

Eastbank
which one is your favorite and why?

 

[Armored farmer]

Eastbank...

which one is your favorite? ...and why?

 

[eastbank]

thats easy,the browning BT-100 for singles trap the best for me.i have been shooting a 1187 remington for doubles and wanted a o/u for them. i have been trying to shoot a 25-25 with all my shotguns, but i think my over all clay games shooting suffers because of my desire, i have been thinking it may be best to limit myself to just several shotguns related to the clay games. but it sure a lot of fun trying. eastbank.

 

[Armored farmer]

Yea, you know you would do best if you just shot one gun....but hey, we're doing this for fun. Right?
It can get pretty frustrating if breaking them all is the only thing that you enjoy.

The BT is a very good singles/hdcp gun.

 

[RainDodger]

I think you did well. I recently bought a very, very nice Model 12 - also made in 1954. I paid exactly twice what you did. I didn't mind too much, as I bought it from a friend that can use the $$, plus it's in excellent shape.

That's definitely some pretty wood you have there.